Minimum 2021 team performance to retain Kingsbury?

Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by Totally_Red, Jan 19, 2021.

What will it take for you to be on board for another year of Kliff after next season?

  1. 8-9 record

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    1.3%
  2. 9-8 record

    9 vote(s)
    11.7%
  3. making the playoffs

    53 vote(s)
    68.8%
  4. winning in the Super Wild Card round

    3 vote(s)
    3.9%
  5. making the Divisional playoffs

    9 vote(s)
    11.7%
  6. more than making the Divisional playoffs

    2 vote(s)
    2.6%
  1. Shane

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    you could argue that Chicago has a much larger fan base and market. Regardless of the QBs.
     
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    Not sure what the original point was, but as far as what "the league preferred"... the fact that the Bears have the 8th best fan base from an economic and marketing standpoint, while Cardinals fans are ranked 25th, surely had to be a significant factor.

    ...dbs
     
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    eh... looks like I was wrong. Chicago/New Orleans got the biggest ratings of all the games on Wild-Card Weekend.
     
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    Bears are a larger market so yes, they would prefer the Bears. More eyes.

    Your point is well taken on hyping Kyler
     
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    In Football obsessed America it makes little difference.

    Fans watch!

    P.S. Chicago is the 3rd largest TV market.
     
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    I think a 9-8 record may get you into the playoffs if you can win the tie breakers. I think you will have several teams floating around that record next season. For me he needs to not only get into the playoffs but win a wild card game. I do not see them winning the division.
     
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    Have you seen next season’s schedule? It’s brutal

    kk will be lucky to get this team to five wins...... unless there are some major changes
     
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    as I said above, I was wrong.
     
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    I’m not sure if any of the answers apply. Our schedule next year is significantly tougher, so it won’t be based on our record. Unless, of course, we win 7 or less games. What needs to happen is that our offense has to be consistently better & EXPLOSIVE week to week. Exactly why I’ve said we need to put all our emphasis on the offense this offseason. At least fix one side of the ball. And because we have so much invested in Kyler, it has to be the offense. If the offense is a top 5-10 offense, then KK will stay. As long as our record is close to .500. If this happens, we’ll lose mainly because of the D, and Joseph will be fired by himself.
     
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    I thought so too when i first saw it. But actually, based on this season's win totals, the Cardinals' 16-game strength of schedule is ranked 15th (tied with 3 other teams) at 127-129 = 0.496. Adding in the Browns as a 17th opponent raises the SoS to 138-134, or 0.507. Either way, middle of the pack.

    Yep, it's a little tougher than the 2020 schedule (121-134-1 = 0.475). But the NFC North has Green Bay and 3 poor to mediocre teams, the AFC South has two good teams and two terrible teams, and of the other teams ranked 3rd in their divisions - Dallas, Carolina, and Cleveland - two should be very beatable. (Granted, the Cards lost to some of the "beatable" teams in 2020!) Some of the opponents will be better next season, some will be worse.

    Simplifying further: Outside of the division, 3 opponents were above .500 this year (4 if you add Cleveland), 6 were below .500, and Chicago was .500. Not so scary, really.

    Manage 3-3 vs. the NFC West, beat the .500 & under teams outside the division, and the Cards end up 10-7. Or go 2-4 in the NFC West again and lose to the .500 and up teams outside the division, and end up 8-9.

    ...dave
     
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    I put make the playoffs.

    But more importantly that we are improving as the season goes along all the way to the end.

    I don't want to see us melt again towards the end.

    Shows that the coaching staff is losing the team and not making adjustments.

    We have seen this ineptitude for 2 years in a row.

    What makes us think he will change?
     
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    Chicago is a public team. They always get network preference regardless of performance.

    I would imagine that the younger fans would have liked to see Kyler. Especially on Nickelodeon.
     
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    Yeah no one was banking on us being a playoff team this year before the season started.
     
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    2020 vs 2019

    Scored 49 more points and generated 686 more yards.

    Allowed 75 fewer points and 801 fewer yards.

    Total: 124

    Going into the season, I was hoping for a total of 200 with a target of 100 points more & less from both sides of the ledger and believed the offence was the more likely to reach that improved number.

    Still... the ledger shows improvement.
     
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    gotta agree. I don’t see what’s so terrifying about next year’s schedule.
     
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