kicking the field goal

[Shane]

With 8 seconds left from the 3 on second down is as chicken **** coahing as it gets!

They should have used one more play to try and punch it in PERIOD! If they missed there would have been plenty of time for a FG!

 

[Renz]

Originally posted by Shane H
With 8 seconds left from the 3 on second down is as chicken **** coahing as it gets!

They should have used one more play to try and punch it in PERIOD! If they missed there would have been plenty of time for a FG!

With our history, Mac probably figured we'd get sacked or commit a penalty that would have resulted in a 10 second run-off.

Hope it doesn't come back to haunt us.

 

[arthurracoon]

but they had 0 time outs

they had to blow their last one when Q lined up at the wrong spot

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by arthurracoon
but they had 0 time outs

they had to blow their last one when Q lined up at the wrong spot

Who cares 8 seconds is plenty of time to run one pass play! That decision is rediculous IMO. But hey a WIN is a WIN is a WIN!

 

[arthurracoon]

Originally posted by Shane H
But hey a WIN is a WIN is a WIN!

exactly

 

[Ryanwb]

Originally posted by Shane H
Who cares 8 seconds is plenty of time to run one pass play! That decision is rediculous IMO. But hey a WIN is a WIN is a WIN!

The FG gave us the victory. Just like in BlackJack, you don't split a winning hand. A ton of things could have happened...fumbled snap, a sack, INT. Go for the sure points

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Ryanwb
The FG gave us the victory. Just like in BlackJack, you don't split a winning hand. A ton of things could have happened...fumbled snap, a sack, INT. Go for the sure points

Youcan say that now that we won. Thats called hindsight! You cant play scared and that was chickenchit coaching!

 

[Red Hawk]

No with the situation as it was that was the right call! IMHO

 

[Joe Mama]

With things going the way they had for the Cardinals taking the field goal was the correct coaching decision. It might be chicken ****, but it's also good coaching.

Joe Mama

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by Joe Mama
but it's also good coaching.

Joe Mama

Wholeheartedly disagree! So did both football announcers as well. its al nice when we win but if we would have lost by 3 you guys would be screaming right now that we should have went for it. That I can almost guarantee!

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by Shane H
Wholeheartedly disagree! So did both football announcers as well. its al nice when we win but if we would have lost by 3 you guys would be screaming right now that we should have went for it. That I can almost guarantee!

I could not agree more. You run two slants and if they arent there you sail the ball into the 3rd row. It was not the 'right' call by any standards I have ever heard of.

They had plenty of time to take the shot and still kick a FG if nothing was there. It shows a lack of confidence in the QB/WR's if you ask me and is bad coaching!!

 

[Chaz]

At the time I thought they should have run 1 more play but I was not to upset about the decision.

It could have been a disaster not to get any points.

 

[arthurracoon]

McGinnis said that he went for the FG because:

-there could hve been a botched snap
-fumble
-blitz, sack
-stuff

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by arthurracoon
McGinnis said that he went for the FG because:

-there could hve been a botched snap
-fumble
-blitz, sack
-stuff

They should be well beyond feeling that a botched snap or fumble will happen between the center and QB-That is BS. Hey it worked out and all, but it was a dumb move. They had plenty of time, from the gun to pass into the endzone and still have 3-4 seconds to kick the FG.

I cant believe an NFL coach is really that concerned about the center-to-QB exchange!!! That doesnt show much for the team in my opinion.

 

[jmt]

i don't agree Shane - to get out at the half tied as poorly as we played in the 2nd quarter was a good thing - look, we took the second half KO and ran half the quarter off the clock. To only get a FG then was more disappointing to me. You gotta figure too for this team to get points on a 2 minute drive at the half had to be a boost! WE WON!!!!

 

[justAndy]

i will not...

... call the cards chickens*** for not running more plays at the end of the half, ---- they had a hard time all day getting to the line on time on offense - i applauded it like i did when blake threw it out of bounds on a busted play.....
that's what it will take to win - holding penalties and turnovers to a minimum.....

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by jmt
i don't agree Shane - to get out at the half tied as poorly as we played in the 2nd quarter was a good thing WE WON!!!!

Odds are we would have still left tied or even up four at the end of the half without the bad coaching decision!

But hey your last sentence says it all!

 

[Goldfield]

Originally posted by Shane H
With 8 seconds left from the 3 on second down is as chicken **** coahing as it gets!

They should have used one more play to try and punch it in PERIOD! If they missed there would have been plenty of time for a FG!

Shane I felt the same way but it really was the right call...

If there was a sack or somthing that made the clock run we would not of gotten even a FG. We needed to go into half time at least tie.

The real problem was the Boldin mistake the few plays before that made us use our LAST timeout...

It was kinda chicken **** but at the same time it was the right call...

 

[pinnacle]

I wanted to point out that the biggest error on this drive was burning our last time out..we called it because time ran out on the play clock..we should have just taken the delay of game (game clock was stopped - I think the receiver went out of bounds - but the play clock was the problem)...it would have moved us back 5 yards - no big deal...it was immaterial as far as field goal position - like the 8 of 13 yard line (I think we were on about the 8 or so and we would have gone back to the 13)..and we could have run a play that was a shorter pass and see if the receiver or back could run into the end zone...but..we could have tried a few more things as we still would have had the time out left - but after we blew the time out to avoid the delay of game - pretty much had to take shots at the end zone only..the 5 yards may have actually helped in strange way - more ground for the dbacks to cover..by burning the time out to avoid a 5 yard penalty - it cost us one play ..at least..

 

[Chopper0080]

I actually coach football, so I will put in my two cents.

It was the right decision because it was the first half. If I am a 0-2 playing the Green Bay Frickin Packers with Mr. Brett Farve at QB, I kick the field goal and go into halftime tied at 10. Yes it is not a gutsy call, but to be able to go into halftime tied with a team associated with winning and the playoffs is a very big motivator.

The one thing many people forget is that the best thing you can do heading into halftime is make a positive play. It builds momentum and confidence over the time in the lockerroom and can set the tone for the first couple plays in the third quarter. If the Cardinals go for it and come away with no points what do you say?

You can't turn away the chance for sure points against a winning team especially when you are at home and have that working for you (maybe not as applicable in SDS). If we are on the road it is a much tougher call, but I generally like taking points especially in the first half to tie the game. If it was at the end of the game, you play for the win, but in the first half you have to tie the game.

Tough call to make but it was the right one.

 

[AZCB34]

Originally posted by Shane H
Who cares 8 seconds is plenty of time to run one pass play! That decision is rediculous IMO. But hey a WIN is a WIN is a WIN!

I completely agree. It is tentative coaching and it could have really come back to hurt them. But prior to that was the play calling slowing down and causing a TO to be used. I don't know Shane, it fortunately didn't hurt them but you have to play aggressively and make one last shot for the 6 points.

Did you guys see how PISSED Kendall and Spikes were at the sideline when that TO was burned?

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

Originally posted by Chopper0080
I actually coach football, so I will put in my two cents.

It was the right decision because it was the first half. If I am a 0-2 playing the Green Bay Frickin Packers with Mr. Brett Farve at QB, I kick the field goal and go into halftime tied at 10. Yes it is not a gutsy call, but to be able to go into halftime tied with a team associated with winning and the playoffs is a very big motivator.

The one thing many people forget is that the best thing you can do heading into halftime is make a positive play. It builds momentum and confidence over the time in the lockerroom and can set the tone for the first couple plays in the third quarter. If the Cardinals go for it and come away with no points what do you say?

You can't turn away the chance for sure points against a winning team especially when you are at home and have that working for you (maybe not as applicable in SDS). If we are on the road it is a much tougher call, but I generally like taking points especially in the first half to tie the game. If it was at the end of the game, you play for the win, but in the first half you have to tie the game.

Tough call to make but it was the right one.

No one is syaing you go away with no points. 8 seconds is an eternity in that position. Line up three wide, run slants into the end zone and if something isnt immediatly there you sail it three rows deep. you still have 3-4 seconds left. At worst you STILL go in tied.

I do agree with your assesment about momentum though with one caveat. Had they scored a TD right there, been up 14-10n at half and come out in the second half with that same 7 minutes drive the mommentum would definatly have been in AZ's favor then.

If there were 4-5 second left, sure I can see, but 8 seconds is an eternity to throw a quick shot into the end zone.!

 

[ajcardfan]

I disagreed with the call pretty strongly and I still do. It worked out, but I don't like to play scared. Here's why I think you run one more play:

1. How many opportunities will you get to score TDs? Can you really expect our D to hold down Favre as well as they did in the second half. When you are at the two yard line, run a play. At the twelve, kick it.

2. You've got a vet QB, plenty smart enough to toss it into the crowd if it's not open instantly.

I think Dave dodged a bullet with this one. Do you know how ugly it would've been for him had we lost by 3 or 4 points?

 

[Shane]

Originally posted by ajcardfan
I disagreed with the call pretty strongly and I still do. It worked out, but I don't like to play scared. Here's why I think you run one more play:

1. How many opportunities will you get to score TDs? Can you really expect our D to hold down Favre as well as they did in the second half. When you are at the two yard line, run a play. At the twelve, kick it.

2. You've got a vet QB, plenty smart enough to toss it into the crowd if it's not open instantly.

I think Dave dodged a bullet with this one. Do you know how ugly it would've been for him had we lost by 3 or 4 points?

Great post aj!

 

[Goldfield]

Originally posted by Chopper0080
I actually coach football, so I will put in my two cents.

It was the right decision because it was the first half. If I am a 0-2 playing the Green Bay Frickin Packers with Mr. Brett Farve at QB, I kick the field goal and go into halftime tied at 10. Yes it is not a gutsy call, but to be able to go into halftime tied with a team associated with winning and the playoffs is a very big motivator.

The one thing many people forget is that the best thing you can do heading into halftime is make a positive play. It builds momentum and confidence over the time in the lockerroom and can set the tone for the first couple plays in the third quarter. If the Cardinals go for it and come away with no points what do you say?

You can't turn away the chance for sure points against a winning team especially when you are at home and have that working for you (maybe not as applicable in SDS). If we are on the road it is a much tougher call, but I generally like taking points especially in the first half to tie the game. If it was at the end of the game, you play for the win, but in the first half you have to tie the game.

Tough call to make but it was the right one.

Nice to hear the thoughts of a Coach, you should post more.