Jeremiyah Love No Matter What

[Krangodnzr]

Peterson was 22 when he was drafted so that’s impossible but it doesn’t matter. Point is Love is still 20 and had a different arc. He has 500 career touches and is more of a Gibbs type than total workhorse which to me is a green flag cause of wear and tear.

I misremembered, he was in fact 22.

Which...doesn't really matter much.

The age thing really only matters for longevity and RB isn't a position known for longevity so...

But I'll default again to the question: who the hell is going to block for Love? Gibbs had Conklin and Sewell to spring him, Love would have PJJ and... Wilkerson?

I know drafting an OT isn't a sexy move, but it's the winning move. It will make the run and pass game more effective.

 

[Cardsfanstl]

I say get that pass rusher and RT in the first two rounds, then get that Notre Dame back- Jadarian Price

I could live with that but Price will not last past the 2nd rd

 

[mel typer]

Love would be the type of player that would get the fan base excited in an offseason where there has been little excitement.

This would be a good pick right here. Only 3 rb's going to make it so who's out when Love comes to town? My best BB King

 

[Stout]

I misremembered, he was in fact 22.

Which...doesn't really matter much.

The age thing really only matters for longevity and RB isn't a position known for longevity so...

But I'll default again to the question: who the hell is going to block for Love? Gibbs had Conklin and Sewell to spring him, Love would have PJJ and... Wilkerson?

I know drafting an OT isn't a sexy move, but it's the winning move. It will make the run and pass game more effective.

The winning move is not and never will be drafting inferior talent because of the position they play.

 

[Russ Smith]

Love ain't Peterson, and Mauigoa is a better college player than Levi Brown.

Peterson was one of the all time great college players, and in the scheme of things Love doesn't even crack the top 50 college running backs of all time.

The glazing of Love here is unreal. He's a good player, but his goodness is really only being magnified by how bleeeeeeh this draft is.

Agreed he's not THAT good but he is really good and in a terrible draft it's why many of us want him.

I was reading something yesterday that says the Dolphins even after publicly saying they weren't going to trade Achane are still considering doing just that because if they extend his contract it might be too high for them. One of the teams widely believed to be involved is Seattle, another is Jacksonville. Achane is set to get a big raise, Miami has several good young RB's, so they're considering moving him for draft picks if they can get what they want back.

I don't think Love is as good as Achane but I do think the same teams going after Achane would have interest in Love. We shouldn't deal the pick to Seattle in our own division but if we don't want him Jax should definitely be one of the teams we're talking to trying to move down.

There's really only 2 guys in the first round that teams actively want to move up and get, Love and Mendoza, I'm sure others will come into play eventually but those are the 2 coveted guys.

Since I don't trust Monti to move down and pick good players anyways I'd just as well take Love. I don't think we will that's why we signed Allgier, but I think we should

 

[Russ Smith]

I don't know about the "by all accounts". Love has warts too, he's not especially good as a power runner, he's more of the shifty elusive type.

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[Russ Smith]

Peterson was such a special prosp People were asking if we could let him into the draft early.

He had 1900+ rushing yards as a freshman. He was a force of nature.

Yeah he actually toyed with the idea of suing to get into the NFL out of HS.

 

[Russ Smith]

I could live with that but Price will not last past the 2nd rd

I do like Price but he runs too upright for my tastes.

 

[Chopper0080]

Taking Love would be a poor use of the 3rd pick IMO, but I could deal with it. Like buying a sledge hammer to put in regular nails.

 

[House of Cards]

I do not like the AP didn't win a superbowl--or this RB didn't, so don't draft a RB high. You could do that with any position. Edge--Miles Garrett---QB Burrow--WR Fitz--T Jake Long--DL--Courtney Brown
If you feel a guy is a top guy at his position and a possible yearly pro bowler that's not as much a position of need as a guy that is not considered nearly as good/dominant but is a big need, you pull the trigger.

 

[Harry]

Peterson was such a special prosp People were asking if we could let him into the draft early.

He had 1900+ rushing yards as a freshman. He was a force of nature.

Absolutely and physically he projected more durability and versatility than Love.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

Peterson was such a special prosp People were asking if we could let him into the draft early.

He had 1900+ rushing yards as a freshman. He was a force of nature.

AP played for 7 different teams and never won anything besides personal accolades. Trouble seemed to follow him during his entire career (off the field). Great physical specimen, but a mental bonehead.

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[Metcalf Rules]

This would be a good pick right here. Only 3 rb's going to make it so who's out when Love comes to town? My best BB King

I know Monte and Bidwill might not be interested in drafting him. And even though I would be the foreigner in the draft room, "I want to know what Love is!"

 

[Krangodnzr]

The winning move is not and never will be drafting inferior talent because of the position they play.

This can be a patently absurd comment bruh.

Positional strength matters A LOT. Team needs matter A LOT.

 

[Krangodnzr]

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He didn't consistently show this on film.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Agreed he's not THAT good but he is really good and in a terrible draft it's why many of us want him.

I was reading something yesterday that says the Dolphins even after publicly saying they weren't going to trade Achane are still considering doing just that because if they extend his contract it might be too high for them. One of the teams widely believed to be involved is Seattle, another is Jacksonville. Achane is set to get a big raise, Miami has several good young RB's, so they're considering moving him for draft picks if they can get what they want back.

I don't think Love is as good as Achane but I do think the same teams going after Achane would have interest in Love. We shouldn't deal the pick to Seattle in our own division but if we don't want him Jax should definitely be one of the teams we're talking to trying to move down.

There's really only 2 guys in the first round that teams actively want to move up and get, Love and Mendoza, I'm sure others will come into play eventually but those are the 2 coveted guys.

Since I don't trust Monti to move down and pick good players anyways I'd just as well take Love. I don't think we will that's why we signed Allgier, but I think we should

That's because those two don't really have any competition as the star players at their positions, especially Love. If you need a starting back, Love is about the only guy in the draft.

 

[Russ Smith]

That's because those two don't really have any competition as the star players at their positions, especially Love. If you need a starting back, Love is about the only guy in the draft.

There's going to be 4-5 guys who end up starting RB's, but Love is the easy one to find. Probably 3 QBs but again Mendoza is the easy one to find.

What changed my mind for good on Love is when he ran the 40 he did at the weight he did it. 4.36 at 212 pounds is impressive he's bigger than he looks.

 

[Krangodnzr]

There's going to be 4-5 guys who end up starting RB's,

I don't know if I agree with this draft.

but Love is the easy one to find. Probably 3 QBs but again Mendoza is the easy one to find.

What changed my mind for good on Love is when he ran the 40 he did at the weight he did it. 4.36 at 212 pounds is impressive he's bigger than he looks.

I like Love, just hate the timing. I don't think he'll be successful behind this line.

 

[Russ Smith]

He didn't consistently show this on film.

I mean he's not James Conner but the reason he reminds me of Achane is for a fast guy he's good between the tackles. That's what makes Achane special at his size he can run between the tackles and he's a threat to house it on every run.

I do agree Love hasn't had a ton of carries a workhorse etc, earlier in the year I was opposed to picking him but I have changed my thought process based on his full season and the workouts. Plus as I keep saying, we have so little speed on offense the only speed guy we have is Benson and we don't know if he's even going to be healthy we don't know what's actually wrong with the knee.

the speed we had last year was Kyler, Benson, DeMercado and Dortch, of those Kyler is gone, DeMercado is gone, Dortch is gone and we have no idea if Benson is on the roster next year. We are going to be one of the slowest offenses in the NFL if not the slowest.

I definitely want to build the OL too I just don't think there's anybody in this draft close to worth the 3rd pick at RT including Mauigoa and it's such a weak draft if you trade down it's almost likely the guy you wanted will be gone.

 

[some dumb guy]

I know Monte and Bidwill might not be interested in drafting him. And even though I would be the foreigner in the draft room, "I want to know what Love is!"

Well, if we're gonna do music references...Love Stinks at #3, J Geils Band

 

[ABR]

Running backs require an OL bro. This years RT class was putrid mostly. Sometimes teams paint themselves in the corner by not having a roster option and they have to draft a guy. This looks like one of those situations.

Now the Cardinals COULD draft one in the 2nd/3rd, but those guys are inferior to Mauigoa by a wide margin.

I just think that Love is being hyped based on a terrible draft class, not because he's that good. Jeanty was substantially more productive than Love. Love has THREE career games where he carried the ball 20 times or more. That doesn't scream top pick to me, it's not a slam dunk.

1) Jeanty played in the Mountain West.
2) I don't think everyone views the fact that Jeanty had 334 more touches than Love in college as a plus.

 

[Krangodnzr]

1) Jeanty played in the Mountain West.

And? What conference did Love play in?

Jeanty put huge numbers against pretty much every team he faced.

2) I don't think everyone views the fact that Jeanty had 334 more touches than Love in college as a plus.

Your missing the point. Love hasn't proven he be a work horse.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I mean he's not James Conner but the reason he reminds me of Achane is for a fast guy he's good between the tackles. That's what makes Achane special at his size he can run between the tackles and he's a threat to house it on every run.

I do agree Love hasn't had a ton of carries a workhorse etc, earlier in the year I was opposed to picking him but I have changed my thought process based on his full season and the workouts. Plus as I keep saying, we have so little speed on offense the only speed guy we have is Benson and we don't know if he's even going to be healthy we don't know what's actually wrong with the knee.

the speed we had last year was Kyler, Benson, DeMercado and Dortch, of those Kyler is gone, DeMercado is gone, Dortch is gone and we have no idea if Benson is on the roster next year. We are going to be one of the slowest offenses in the NFL if not the slowest.

I definitely want to build the OL too I just don't think there's anybody in this draft close to worth the 3rd pick at RT including Mauigoa and it's such a weak draft if you trade down it's almost likely the guy you wanted will be gone.

I don't think Love is worth the #3 pick either. Few running backs have been in modern football.

I'm not opposed to Love but he is my distant #3, and maybe #4 after the trade down option.

Mauigoa isn't worth the #3 pick in a standard draft but he is in this draft

 

[BullheadCardFan]

1) Jeanty played in the Mountain West.
2) I don't think everyone views the fact that Jeanty had 334 more touches than Love in college as a plus.

Welcome to the board

Hope to see you post more

 

[Stout]

This can be a patently absurd comment bruh.

Positional strength matters A LOT. Team needs matter A LOT.

You're right. I should have pluralized it because it COULD be absurd, given circumstance. What IS ludicrous is prioritizing OL to the detriment of talent in a draft when you have Brisset and Minshew as your QBs. Go with the higher talent level. It's a no brainer. Not doing so would be patently absurd.