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Don't we have a ton of shooting guards now?
Yes! Gayson Allen is expected to be moved. Possibly Royce Oneal. On top of that, we drafted arguably the best shooter in the draft in Brea.Don't we have a ton of shooting guards now?
That’s an interesting takeI am curious to see how Green looks playing next to an elite scorer. He has been the primary scorer every year and he isn't very efficient in that role, but maybe being a secondary scorer next to someone like Book will help his efficiency.
I am curious to see how Green looks playing next to an elite scorer. He has been the primary scorer every year and he isn't very efficient in that role, but maybe being a secondary scorer next to someone like Book will help his efficiency.
what king of return can Grayson and Royce net?Yes! Gayson Allen is expected to be moved. Possibly Royce Oneal. On top of that, we drafted arguably the best shooter in the draft in Brea.
IDK. Most podcasters say we will be looking for assets, like second rounders. If we can net other pieces, like PG or Wings, that will be a bonus. Most likely, we may be trying to clear cap space any way we can in these trades.what king of return can Grayson and Royce net?
I am curious to see how Green looks playing next to an elite scorer. He has been the primary scorer every year and he isn't very efficient in that role, but maybe being a secondary scorer next to someone like Book will help his efficiency.
I've been thinking similarly. Green is a really good ball handler but a poor playmaker for others. It'll be an interesting offensive duo. I'm more intrigued than worried. It may fail but it could also be like bigger versions of the Bledsoe and Goran pairing.
what king of return can Grayson and Royce net?
We just need a pg. Book gets a lot of assists but is not a pg. I would love to flip a sg or Dillon Brooks for a pg. Too bad Jrue isn't available.
I’ve also been thinking this as well. Green has been the top guy on 2nd place team. Book has been there in recent-ish memory. They’ve got some experience being at the top. Green is also athletic too.
I accept that taking Green was the price of dumping Durant. But because of the multitude of problems with Green--his being not a very good player and his being grossly overpaid--the Suns acting enthusiastic about him, and insisting that they will keep him, makes little sense. Unless they are essentially lying in hopes of fooling teams into thinking Green is an up-and-coming player whom they should trade for. Yeah, that's probably it. What does one expect the Suns to do, admit that they know perfectly well what we said about Green? He's just a poor man's Bradley Beal whose only advantage is being younger. But you can't say that publicly if you ever hope to trade him.I don't wanna be too negative, but Green was not even remotely their best player, they were waaaaaaay better when Green was off the court. One of the things I hate most about the KD trade is that I really wanted the other team to have a high chance of getting worse... but, you could take the KD trade completely out of the conversation... like, the KD could vanish off the planet... and the Rockets are probably better because they no longer are wasting possessions on Green.
KD could stumble into a void zone... dissapearing from existence... and the Rockets next year would probably improve purly by development and subtraction.
I accept that taking Green was the price of dumping Durant. But because of the multitude of problems with Green--his being not a very good player and his being grossly overpaid--the Suns acting enthusiastic about him, and insisting that they will keep him, makes little sense. Unless they are essentially lying in hopes of fooling teams into thinking Green is an up-and-coming player whom they should trade for. Yeah, that's probably it. What does one expect the Suns to do, admit that they know perfectly well what we said about Green? He's just a poor man's Bradley Beal whose only advantage is being younger. But you can't say that publicly if you ever hope to trade him.
I compared them only in the simplest possible way. "Overpriced shooting guard the team wins more games without." I see no need to bring Kelly Oubre or Gerald Green into the discussion, because (a)I'm barely familiar with Oubre, since he played for the Suns exactly during the time when my back was turned (approximately 2017-2020); (b)Gerald Green may not be a very good player, but I'm not interested in knocking him, because he nevertheless ended up being an integral part of one of the last Suns teams I actually enjoyed watching.I don't see the Beal similarity, Beal is a player that was once very good who has been drastically reduced through repeated injury.
Love JrueWe just need a pg. Book gets a lot of assists but is not a pg. I would love to flip a sg or Dillon Brooks for a pg. Too bad Jrue isn't available.
Jrue for Green works; straight up according to the trade machine. I've always thought that Jrue and Book would complement one another well.I suspect he is extremely available, but we just don't have the salary flexibility to even make an offer. With our 2nd apron status, we could only trade Booker or Beal for Jrue and Booker is out of the question for us and Beal is obviously of zero interest to anyone.
Jrue for Green works; straight up according to the trade machine. I've always thought that Jrue and Book would complement one another well.
The Blazers already have 3 Jalen Green’s on their roster.Jrue for Green works; straight up according to the trade machine. I've always thought that Jrue and Book would complement one another well.
Why doesn't Paul like Mat Ishbia?cp3 is on the expiring shelf - discounted for a reason - every day that passes - he'll never be that good again - never be good as the day before - in decline - jrue holiday is not on the same shelf - no history of flukey injuries and is a full 5 YEARS YOUNGER
cp3 doesn't like ish - he's not coming here - we need a replacement for cp3 not a lesser version of him - that time/magic is gone
cp3 found out he was being traded by cp3's brother or some ish like that - didn't take kindly to itWhy doesn't Paul like Mat Ishbia?
We can take multiple guy back in a trade, we just can't combine them going out when you are over the second apron. So maybe we can guys we can flip for draft picks, or an expiring contract. Something to get under that second apron. Ishbia seems to be OK paying luxury tax.I don't think it's about the return- it's about getting under the second apron. You send Allen to Brooklyn, they flip him for something else, you get under the second apron.
I don't think NBA players are as petty as many fans think. Especially CP3. That dude is all business.cp3 found out he was being traded by cp3's brother or some ish like that - didn't take kindly to it