Ja, Anyone?

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Trading the first pick in this draft would be a monumental disaster of epic proportions.

EDIT: After careful consideration, I would potentially be open to trading Zion if the Pelicans get the #2 pick and throw in Anthony Davis, Jrue Holiday, 8 future first rounders, a definitive cure to cancer, and a working clone of 1993 Michael Jordan. The Pelicans would have to add some cash considerations too, of course.

buhahaha... ok fair enough, I certainly don't want to die on this mountain
 

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That's a cool highlight, but most NBA players don't take three seconds to load up a corner three.

FWIW that's Virginia's best player, a potential lottery prospect, shooting. Mainly, I'm good friends with that other poster in real life and wanted to convey to him that he had figuratively gotten his shot blocked.
 

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FWIW that's Virginia's best player, a potential lottery prospect, shooting. Mainly, I'm good friends with that other poster in real life and wanted to convey to him that he had figuratively gotten his shot blocked.

This isn't real life? If so, that would call into question whether I actually have a life.

It was a bad pass which helped set up the block but still, that was a lot of ground to cover in a short amount of time.
 

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Unless Ja shows well against some stronger teams down the stretch, I'd go for a PF. Heck John Collins was picked in the 20's recently. The odds are there is someone who is a decent prospect at that position. Put the assistant coaches to work searching for him, if we have no actual scouts. They should do at least as well as we would. The odds are whoever they found would be available at our pick (2-5)
 

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Unless Ja shows well against some stronger teams down the stretch, I'd go for a PF. Heck John Collins was picked in the 20's recently. The odds are there is someone who is a decent prospect at that position. Put the assistant coaches to work searching for him, if we have no actual scouts. They should do at least as well as we would. The odds are whoever they found would be available at our pick (2-5)

I concur. We need a veteran point guard, not another long term project.
 

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Unless Ja shows well against some stronger teams down the stretch, I'd go for a PF. Heck John Collins was picked in the 20's recently. The odds are there is someone who is a decent prospect at that position. Put the assistant coaches to work searching for him, if we have no actual scouts. They should do at least as well as we would. The odds are whoever they found would be available at our pick (2-5)

To be fair though, that was a very strong and deep draft. I liked Collins a lot and mentioned him during the college season but for some reason he was never considered a top prospect. I don't see anyone like him right now but hopefully a few will come to light during the tournament.
 

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Unless Ja shows well against some stronger teams down the stretch, I'd go for a PF. Heck John Collins was picked in the 20's recently. The odds are there is someone who is a decent prospect at that position. Put the assistant coaches to work searching for him, if we have no actual scouts. They should do at least as well as we would. The odds are whoever they found would be available at our pick (2-5)

And we can trade up...for a second top 10 pick...and draft the top TWO power forward prospects just to make sure. What could possibly go wrong? :)

If we don't luck out in the lottery, that pick may be our ticket to the veteran pf or pg we need. I wouldn't reach for position though...Most of the power forwards in this draft are tweener sf types or rim-runner types that would do nothing to solve our issues.
 

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No. Zion has LeBron like potential. It would be insane to take morant over him.

I don’t like these threads though. There is less than a 30 percent chance the suns get a top 2 pick.

Other than Zion going #1 there really isn't a lock to go #2. This isn't a 2 player draft where there are 2 prospects talked about going #1 like Ingram or Simmons or even Ayton or Doncic. I think there are a few teams that would pass on Morant because they already have a PG, Atlanta with Trae Young and Cleveland with Colin Sexton. There are other good prospects they could take like Barrett and Reddish, who are both wings, that make no sense for the Suns but do for teams like Atlanta and Cleveland if they land the #2 pick. It wouldn't surprise me if Ja fell to #4 or maybe even #5 so what's the issue with a thread discussing someone that may be available where we pick? Unlike Zion we won't need a whole lot of lottery luck to grab him either.
 

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And we can trade up...for a second top 10 pick...and draft the top TWO power forward prospects just to make sure. What could possibly go wrong? :)

If we don't luck out in the lottery, that pick may be our ticket to the veteran pf or pg we need. I wouldn't reach for position though...Most of the power forwards in this draft are tweener sf types or rim-runner types that would do nothing to solve our issues.

I have never bought into the idea that drafting just one of Chriss and Bender would have been a winning strategy. Now drafting zero of them would have been a smart move. Anyway give me two picks instead of one and I'll live with the occasional freakish result where they somehow cancel each other out.

I have no problem using the pick to acquire some more established PG or PF, if such an opportunity arose - and it well might. Now if Minny offered Tyus Jones for our pick before the lottery, that would be a tough decision. (A no brainer if you don't like Tyus, of course)
 

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I have never bought into the idea that drafting just one of Chriss and Bender would have been a winning strategy. Now drafting zero of them would have been a smart move. Anyway give me two picks instead of one and I'll live with the occasional freakish result where they somehow cancel each other out.

I have no problem using the pick to acquire some more established PG or PF, if such an opportunity arose - and it well might. Now if Minny offered Tyus Jones for our pick before the lottery, that would be a tough decision. (A no brainer if you don't like Tyus, of course)

I would take Tyus Jones over Ja Morant and not think twice.
 

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I have never bought into the idea that drafting just one of Chriss and Bender would have been a winning strategy. Now drafting zero of them would have been a smart move. Anyway give me two picks instead of one and I'll live with the occasional freakish result where they somehow cancel each other out.

I have no problem using the pick to acquire some more established PG or PF, if such an opportunity arose - and it well might. Now if Minny offered Tyus Jones for our pick before the lottery, that would be a tough decision. (A no brainer if you don't like Tyus, of course)

I agree, our problem was not that we drafted two combo bigs. It's that we drafted the wrong 2 combo bigs. I called them bigs because I'm still not sure what position either of them should have played.
 

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I agree, our problem was not that we drafted two combo bigs. It's that we drafted the wrong 2 combo bigs. I called them bigs because I'm still not sure what position either of them should have played.

I just don't see a power forward in this draft who solves our needs at all.

You've got the Reddish/Hachimura/Okpala/Little/Hunter types who are basically wings. We have way too many of those already.

You've got the Hayes/Fernando/Bassey/Gafford types who are all raw, big reaches, and likely bad fits next to Ayton.

The only guys who project to potentially rebound at a high level and space the floor at the 4 are Bol and Doumbaya...who may be the two rawest prospects in the entire draft.

I just don't see where this draft offers a possible answer for the Suns at the power forward position if they don't win the #1 pick. Maybe they luck out...but they would have to do so with a huge reach in the top 6 or 7 picks.
 

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I just don't see a power forward in this draft who solves our needs at all.

You've got the Reddish/Hachimura/Okpala/Little/Hunter types who are basically wings. We have way too many of those already.

You've got the Hayes/Fernando/Bassey/Gafford types who are all raw, big reaches, and likely bad fits next to Ayton.

The only guys who project to potentially rebound at a high level and space the floor at the 4 are Bol and Doumbaya...who may be the two rawest prospects in the entire draft.

I just don't see where this draft offers a possible answer for the Suns at the power forward position if they don't win the #1 pick. Maybe they luck out...but they would have to do so with a huge reach in the top 6 or 7 picks.

If Morant and Zion are off the board I think we need to call Chicago and try use our pick to get Lauri Markkannen. I'd throw in the Bucks pick as well. They're young and don't know what they're doing right now, at least by the looks of it. Lauri next to Ayton should work. It would offensively, I'm not sure about defensively but it's worth gambling on.
 

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I just don't see a power forward in this draft who solves our needs at all.

You've got the Reddish/Hachimura/Okpala/Little/Hunter types who are basically wings. We have way too many of those already.

You've got the Hayes/Fernando/Bassey/Gafford types who are all raw, big reaches, and likely bad fits next to Ayton.

The only guys who project to potentially rebound at a high level and space the floor at the 4 are Bol and Doumbaya...who may be the two rawest prospects in the entire draft.

I just don't see where this draft offers a possible answer for the Suns at the power forward position if they don't win the #1 pick. Maybe they luck out...but they would have to do so with a huge reach in the top 6 or 7 picks.
Um. Zion?
 

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Um. Zion?

"I just don't see where this draft offers a possible answer for the Suns at the power forward position if they don't win the #1 pick."

I said it correctly in the last paragraph.

Bad topic sentence on my part.
 

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If Morant and Zion are off the board I think we need to call Chicago and try use our pick to get Lauri Markkannen. I'd throw in the Bucks pick as well. They're young and don't know what they're doing right now, at least by the looks of it. Lauri next to Ayton should work. It would offensively, I'm not sure about defensively but it's worth gambling on.

That might work if we get the #3 pick or someone else emerges. I could see them trading Lauri for Barrett, but right now I think they'd value him much more highly than anyone past the top 3.
 

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I just don't see where this draft offers a possible answer for the Suns at the power forward position if they don't win the #1 pick. Maybe they luck out...but they would have to do so with a huge reach in the top 6 or 7 picks.

I don't either but I want to see what comes out of postseason play before I write it off completely.
 

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Another angle:

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That angle is more impressive, IMO. You see how high he gets from that side and also just how far he jumped. I wish it showed where he came down though. It looks like he was coming down out of bounds, which is crazy. That's at least 12 feet, maybe more? And that happened with Duke up 7 with over 4 minutes to play. That is not a play a lot of "star" players would be trying to make in those circumstances. Of course there aren't a lot of people that can make that play also.
 

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"I just don't see where this draft offers a possible answer for the Suns at the power forward position if they don't win the #1 pick."

I said it correctly in the last paragraph.

Bad topic sentence on my part.
My mistake. I missed that. I kinda thought that was you meant, hence the question mark.
 

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"I just don't see where this draft offers a possible answer for the Suns at the power forward position if they don't win the #1 pick."

Does that not lead to the suggestion that we trade our top pick for a young, experienced Power Forward who would fit the rest of our roster?

As well as, of course, a separate trade of players for the same description in a Point Guard.

Booker is in his 3rd season. Ayton and Bridges are rookies. We need some mid-career players at the Point and Power Forward starting/finishing positions.

That would be a great foundation for moving up next season!
 
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