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So this is probably going to win the Captain Obvious Award from all of the people on here that do not want Murray but..
I will admit that I am not a superfan of Josh Rosen based on the fact that he doesn't seem like a guy that loves football. I don't want to hear from a QB about how excited he is to sit under a tree at UCLA in the offseason and sip coffee. I would rather hear about the study of the game of football, but whatever. My biggest concern is that he also doesn't seem very accurate. To me, he just doesn't seem like a guy that is not replaceable.
HOWEVER .......I will also admit that the situation he was in last year was ridiculous. Seeing his first action late in the 4th quarter of a winnable game was beyond absurd, and almost everything that followed from Steve Wilks was bush league. I will give Rosen this, he took a pounding and kept getting up, and there is no way to accurately assess his future productivity based on the joke that was the 2018 Arizona Cardinals.
This brings me to the draft. I will admit that the thought of Kyler Murray and a dual threat QB excites me. His accuracy seems amazing. He can run. He can pass. Other than height he looks like a complete package.
That said, I don't see any scenario where drafting Murray #1 makes even a little sense, and because of that, I can't see the Cardinals making this move for the following reasons.
1. Drafted Rosen at 10, traded picks to move up, cheap cap number
2. Kingsbury was hired to help Rosen
3. Kingsbury QBs at Texas Tech could move, but they weren't dual theat, it isn't a necessity
Now this is what I can't get over.
4. Drafting Murray gives SF Bosa, or the nightmare scenario where they trade down for the haul of picks that we are coveting. This could have direct ripple effects on SF and AZ for YEARS. This situation is kind of terrifying.
5. Drafting Murray means he is the presumed day 1 starter and I can't wrap my head around that. Would they really go into the season with Murray and Hundley as the 1 and 2?
And finally
6. 2018 was the ultimate embarrassment for the Cardinals organization. Wilks was fired and Kingsbury hired to turn it around, not repeat that dreadful season. There is no way in hell that drafting Murray and going into the season with Murray and Hundley gives the Cardinals a better chance of success in 2019 than keeping Rosen and adding Bosa or trading down and acquiring picks. No chance. The team today is already in a much better situation than it was anytime with Wilks. The worst possible outcome would be another 2018 season and making a decision like this that could set the organization back for years. Even if Murray ends up being great, I can't see how it is worth the risk. Too many things can go wrong.
So after all of that, I have to think that all of the Murray talk is a smoke screen. The Cardinals heard the chatter and are playing the game, maybe not even the right way. I just can't see how given the entire situation how any of this makes sense given all of the above factors.
We shall see. This is the most interesting offseason I have ever experienced.
I will admit that I am not a superfan of Josh Rosen based on the fact that he doesn't seem like a guy that loves football. I don't want to hear from a QB about how excited he is to sit under a tree at UCLA in the offseason and sip coffee. I would rather hear about the study of the game of football, but whatever. My biggest concern is that he also doesn't seem very accurate. To me, he just doesn't seem like a guy that is not replaceable.
HOWEVER .......I will also admit that the situation he was in last year was ridiculous. Seeing his first action late in the 4th quarter of a winnable game was beyond absurd, and almost everything that followed from Steve Wilks was bush league. I will give Rosen this, he took a pounding and kept getting up, and there is no way to accurately assess his future productivity based on the joke that was the 2018 Arizona Cardinals.
This brings me to the draft. I will admit that the thought of Kyler Murray and a dual threat QB excites me. His accuracy seems amazing. He can run. He can pass. Other than height he looks like a complete package.
That said, I don't see any scenario where drafting Murray #1 makes even a little sense, and because of that, I can't see the Cardinals making this move for the following reasons.
1. Drafted Rosen at 10, traded picks to move up, cheap cap number
2. Kingsbury was hired to help Rosen
3. Kingsbury QBs at Texas Tech could move, but they weren't dual theat, it isn't a necessity
Now this is what I can't get over.
4. Drafting Murray gives SF Bosa, or the nightmare scenario where they trade down for the haul of picks that we are coveting. This could have direct ripple effects on SF and AZ for YEARS. This situation is kind of terrifying.
5. Drafting Murray means he is the presumed day 1 starter and I can't wrap my head around that. Would they really go into the season with Murray and Hundley as the 1 and 2?
And finally
6. 2018 was the ultimate embarrassment for the Cardinals organization. Wilks was fired and Kingsbury hired to turn it around, not repeat that dreadful season. There is no way in hell that drafting Murray and going into the season with Murray and Hundley gives the Cardinals a better chance of success in 2019 than keeping Rosen and adding Bosa or trading down and acquiring picks. No chance. The team today is already in a much better situation than it was anytime with Wilks. The worst possible outcome would be another 2018 season and making a decision like this that could set the organization back for years. Even if Murray ends up being great, I can't see how it is worth the risk. Too many things can go wrong.
So after all of that, I have to think that all of the Murray talk is a smoke screen. The Cardinals heard the chatter and are playing the game, maybe not even the right way. I just can't see how given the entire situation how any of this makes sense given all of the above factors.
We shall see. This is the most interesting offseason I have ever experienced.