Is Rosen a Kingsbury type QB

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    Don't be so sure. I think its likely we trade back.

    Keep in mind that teams will get nervous about other teams trading up further, making our pick the only sure bet to get your guy.

    Murray's and Haskin's stock will rise after the combine. Happens every year with QB's. Do not be surprised if teams are clamoring for one come April. However i think it will be Haskins who a couple teams fall in love with. I have a feeling Murray will measure under 5'9." That and his baseball thing will hurt him in the process.
     
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    Nope keep the hype train moving.
     
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    Rosen had plenty of games to get better and didn’t - I want him to be great too - but it would be extraordinary if he climbed from the bottom rank to say 26? He’s as much the reason we’re picking 1 overall as Wilks - unless KK has wizard of oz monkeys flying out his az - he might - will see

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    I doubt they trade him but the cap is going to be 187-191 million and we are about $50million under the cap. Let's not act like having $8-$9 million in dead money is going to break us.
     
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    I give a rats ass over any offensive players stats on this team last year.
     
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    Shouldn’t trade him but doesn’t mean we should not take the best qb available with our first Arizona #1 overall draft pick! More is better - look at teams like Denver looking for years! If you need a qb get 2-3 whatever it takes to get one! Rosen has not shown me a reason to put all the cardinal eggs in his basket? I still think Sam Bradford is a much better qb - stuck in a bad bad situation with McCoy and Wilks and yes fans clamoring for the rookie qb - who averaged 162 yards a game for 14 games -
     
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    Our cap is $42 mil at the moment. It’d be completely irresponsible to carry over 8-9 mil in dead money before you even get into free agency and in the draft. That’s more-or-less our rookie pool for next year.

    You’re basically saying that you’d sacrifice a chance at signing a very good starter in free agency because you’re desperate to get rid of Josh Rosen.
     
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    Break us?

    No. But giving up the price of a first rate starter in FA or a host of depth players in a rebuild year is not an insignificant calculation.
     
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    Yup.

    Based on this, the Jets, Bills and Cards should be in the market for a new QB.
     
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    Really you don't think having $13 million in dead money in ONE position during a rebuild is a big deal to this organization? Not to mention the additional cap used to fill that position between Glennon costing another $4 million + the cost of another high draft pick at the position. $8 million can be used on a high quality starter or like 3 quality depth guys.
     
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    It's not that Rosen isn't a KK QB, it's that Murray is a dynamic play-maker that is KK's dream QB come true.

    Murray would get the most out of KK's ability to scheme, and KK would get the most out of Murray's play-making talent.

    It's a match made in heaven.
     
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    And here's why they stick with Rosen.

    The Cardinals were the worst pass-blocking team in the league last year, according to Pro Football Focus grading. Rosen was sacked on more than 10 percent of his dropbacks, the fifth most in the league, and pressured on more than 40 percent of his dropbacks, third most in the league. That offensive line is the top priority this offseason.
     
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