Interest in McKinnie- per King/Rotoworld

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SI.com's Peter King "hears" the Cardinals have "some interest" in Ravens OT Bryant McKinnie.

Here's a match that makes a lot of sense. Deemed a poor fit for the new uptempo offense, McKinnie has fallen out of favor in Baltimore. Michael Oher and rookie Kelechi Osemele are entrenched at left and right tackle. According to Pro Football Focus, Cardinals tackles Bobbie Massie and D'Anthony Batiste have been responsible for 25 sacks and 74 QB hurries in eight games.

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/1210/bryant-mckinnie
 

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Cards interested in OT Bryant McKinnie

Cardinals could have interest in Bryant McKinnie

Posted by Michael David Smith on October 30, 2012, 6:54 PM EDT

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With Bryant McKinnie having been demoted out of the starting lineup in Baltimore, and with the Cardinals in desperate need of help on the offensive line, could the Ravens trade McKinnie to Arizona?

It’s a possibility explored by Peter King of Sports Illustrated, who writes that the Cardinals have some interest in McKinnie.

When the Cardinals started 4-0, they looked like they could be one of the pleasant surprises of this NFL season. But the Cardinals are now 4-4, and their lousy offensive line is a big reason that they’ve lost four straight games: Arizona has given up 39 sacks, by far the most in the NFL this season.

So if the Cardinals are serious about making a playoff run, acquiring a starting-caliber offensive lineman before Thursday’s trade deadline would be a wise move. The question is whether they’d want to give up anything of value for a player like McKinnie, who’s undeniably talented but also has a reputation for being more trouble than he’s worth.
 

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One mans trash.....

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/bryant-mckinnie-168941.html?highlight=bryant+mckinnie

But.... He is better than any of the crap we got currently.

The question I pose is this..... Do we still think we have a shot at the playoffs with our remaining schedule? And why would we give up draft picks that we obviously need for the future? And probably top 10 picks at that.
If we don't do something about this O-line right now, we may end up signing 2 or 3 more QBs just to make it through the year. And I hope they get hazard pay too because damn, that's a dangerous job.
 

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I know some are wondering if the Cards would deal for a RB or QB before the deadline (me included) but it sounds like they're staying put


I would rather stand pat than lose chips for the future.
 

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Jets waived RB Jonathan Grimes, cut DT Daniel Muir. Lions cut CB Justin Miller, Pats cut LB Bobby Carpenter, Dolphins cut Anthony Armstrong.
 

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I know some are wondering if the Cards would deal for a RB or QB before the deadline (me included) but it sounds like they're staying put


I would rather stand pat than lose chips for the future.

That is exactly what Rod Graves would say. In other words lets do nothing.
 

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One mans trash.....

http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/f4/bryant-mckinnie-168941.html?highlight=bryant+mckinnie

But.... He is better than any of the crap we got currently.

The question I pose is this..... Do we still think we have a shot at the playoffs with our remaining schedule? And why would we give up draft picks that we obviously need for the future? And probably top 10 picks at that.

That's the question...

Just a week after the Rams, who were 2-0 in the NFC West and not far behind first place let it be known that they do not consider themselves Super Bowl contenders this year and therefore are willing to listen to trade offers for their best players....they go to England and lose 45-7.

When you send that kind of message to a football team---it has this kind of repercussions.

The problem is---the Cardinals, by continuing to do nothing but hoard injured TEs and seesaw Reagan Maui'a...are making the message clear.

Help is not on the way.
 

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That's the question...

Just a week after the Rams, who were 2-0 in the NFC West and not far behind first place let it be known that they do not consider themselves Super Bowl contenders this year and therefore are willing to listen to trade offers for their best players....they go to England and lose 45-7.

When you send that kind of message to a football team---it has this kind of repercussions.

The problem is---the Cardinals, by continuing to do nothing but hoard injured TEs and seesaw Reagan Maui'a...are making the message clear.

Help is not on the way.
What messages are they sending to the team and our best players? A bad message cause they didnt even try to find a solution to improve the worst offensive line in the history of nfl.i wont be' surprised if Also the defense will quit soon
 

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I'm getting sick of this organization doing nothing and I'm getting sick of all these idiot media guys making suggestions as if the Cardinals are doing anything when they are not.
 

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Rod Graves is absolutely inept as a GM. It would absolutely shock me if they did anything before the trade deadline to improve a team who's wheels are falling off.
 

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I know some are wondering if the Cards would deal for a RB or QB before the deadline (me included) but it sounds like they're staying put

Jason La CanforaVerified ‏@JasonLaCanfora
@Big_Man_Bowen there arent starters out there available at OL. This bryant mckinnie stuff is kinda laughable. He may be BAL starting LT soon

Help is not on the way. We're sticking with this craptacular offense.
 

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It makes me feel like Rod Graves is Dr. Evil. He has the opportunity to take out Austin Powers all the time, but is too busy following his plan. Has him trapped, tied up, etc....but lets him get away.

We already lost any home field advantage in playoffs already, unless anyone really thinks we can win our last 8 games. Pretty sad four weeks after being 4-0. That's letting it get away in epic fashion.

The OL problems have struck. We all knew how bad it was. We all wanted it upgraded. We had a miracle first four game run, and rather than be proactive and try to fix the holes, we let it all slip through our fingers.

Granted it's much more feasible to fix an OL during an offseason with FA and draft, but overall we've had opportunities to make some moves. We didn't close the deal the first time. We probably won't make a move on McKinnie, or with other players on teams' rosters.

We have plenty of talent on this team, we shouldn't be 'waiting until next year'. This team is a QB and OL away from superbowl contention. So much talent on this team going to waste.

Even then our QB's could do better if they actually had enough time to throw. If we actually had time to run deeper plays. This offense is designed to naturally run deep routes. Even as bad as our OL was last year, we were still capable of throwing deep on a decent basis. But that is all gone as our OL is absolutely putrid. Worst OL I've seen here in Arizona.

We can't pass block a thing, and we can't run block a thing. Our RB's need to have a five yard gain type of run just to get back to the line of scrimmage.

We're not going anywhere if we can't run the ball. It's not our rb's, it's our line. Our rb's might not do great even with decent blocking, or maybe they would, it's irrelevant because they don't have a shot unless the other team is messing up.

We have an extra late round pick next year. If it gets a chance to salvage the season, do it. At 4-4, the season isn't over. But even if you decide to make major changes, you need to be in a situation where it isn't all bad to make the appropriate ones. If something is so bad, it taints everything else, making it harder to make personnel decisions.

I also wouldn't mind picking up a guard as well. Our inside push has blown apart. Again it's hard to tell when outside troubles can lead to inside ones, but at this point, we're getting steamrolled up the middle and burned on the outside. Not good.

But no it won't happen, I can almost hear the mwuuuahh....mwuuahhh. Dr. Evil foiled again.
 

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Who'd a thunk it? Rod Graves bashing. I'm sure he's responsible for all the injuries to our OL and RB positions. Probably snuck out there in the middle of the night and knee-capped our guys and then he tackled Kolb and created his injury.

He's the one who decided not to play Powell last week when we were having such a problem with our running game and decided Skelton didn't need help in the backfield from a FB or TE. Let him get creamed. He's a big boy.

And now we are bitching about Graves not getting a starting caliber OL or RB. I mean, there are so many on the market, just pull one off the shelf and stick him in the line-up. How hard can that be? And if there isn't one available, panic and hire the first re-tread available. That'll really help.

Injuries have really screwed this team up. You can't plan for that or have enough talent available to cover all options. There aren't enough starters available for the 32 teams in the NFL right now. It's silly to think a team has enough talent to make up for the loss of 5 starters and play at the same high level they were playing at, especially when they are all on the offensive side of the ball.

We went for youth and will really have sufficient talent available when they become acclimated to the game speed. Until then, we are screwed, just like 10 or so other NFL teams. So if you want to blame Graves for something, blame him for the youth movement, not for being unable to hire non-existant starters.
 

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Who'd a thunk it? Rod Graves bashing. I'm sure he's responsible for all the injuries to our OL and RB positions. Probably snuck out there in the middle of the night and knee-capped our guys and then he tackled Kolb and created his injury.

He's the one who decided not to play Powell last week when we were having such a problem with our running game and decided Skelton didn't need help in the backfield from a FB or TE. Let him get creamed. He's a big boy.

And now we are bitching about Graves not getting a starting caliber OL or RB. I mean, there are so many on the market, just pull one off the shelf and stick him in the line-up. How hard can that be? And if there isn't one available, panic and hire the first re-tread available. That'll really help.

Injuries have really screwed this team up. You can't plan for that or have enough talent available to cover all options. There aren't enough starters available for the 32 teams in the NFL right now. It's silly to think a team has enough talent to make up for the loss of 5 starters and play at the same high level they were playing at, especially when they are all on the offensive side of the ball.

We went for youth and will really have sufficient talent available when they become acclimated to the game speed. Until then, we are screwed, just like 10 or so other NFL teams. So if you want to blame Graves for something, blame him for the youth movement, not for being unable to hire non-existant starters.

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40, I am prepared to bash on Graves (surprise, right?), but not for anything you mentioned, or any of the injury replacement issues. My beef with Graves? He doesn't have the sack to tell KW what needs to be done. Do you see him calling KW into his office and telling him, in no uncertain terms, to fire Grimm? Do you see him firing Miller without KW's consent, and replacing him with an OC who will not just be a KW lapdog? I sure in the heck don't see it.
 

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40, I am prepared to bash on Graves (surprise, right?), but not for anything you mentioned, or any of the injury replacement issues. My beef with Graves? He doesn't have the sack to tell KW what needs to be done. Do you see him calling KW into his office and telling him, in no uncertain terms, to fire Grimm? Do you see him firing Miller without KW's consent, and replacing him with an OC who will not just be a KW lapdog? I sure in the heck don't see it.

This is absolutely the same reason I have problems with Graves.
 

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40, I am prepared to bash on Graves (surprise, right?), but not for anything you mentioned, or any of the injury replacement issues. My beef with Graves? He doesn't have the sack to tell KW what needs to be done. Do you see him calling KW into his office and telling him, in no uncertain terms, to fire Grimm? Do you see him firing Miller without KW's consent, and replacing him with an OC who will not just be a KW lapdog? I sure in the heck don't see it.
I don't see what facts were have to support that Graves knows what to do to be successful in the NFL than Whiz does.

Just look at the coaches he has hired. Look at Graves' pick Ron Rivera in Carolina.
 

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The real question is Is Rod Graves the personnel GM or is he the contract GM? I don't think any knows what the answer is. I think that whomever is the the talent evaluator for offensive lineman isn't very good.
 

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Is this considered baggage. Any decent strip clubbs in the desert?

http://www.usatoday.com/story/gameon/2012/10/30/bryant-mckinnie-sued-trick-daddy-father/1668491/

Report: Lawsuit says Bryant McKinnie owes $375,000 in strip club bills to Trick Daddy's father

Chris Chase, USA TODAY SportsShare




5:54PM EDT October 30. 2012 - What most people do when they need more money at a strip club: Ask their server to break a $20 with ones.

What Bryant McKinnie does when he needs more money at a strip club: Ask for a tab from Trick Daddy's father that runs up to $375,000 over 20 months.

That's what NBC6 in Miami is reporting, citing a recent lawsuit filed by Charles "Pop" Young, the father of Miami rapper Trick Daddy and the general manager of a large strip club in the city that boasts numerous professional athletes and rappers as patrons.
 

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