Here’s how one GM mocked the first 10 picks in the draft

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From Mike Sando's article in the Athletic today:

1. Bengals: Burrow
2. Redskins: Young
3. Lions: Trade, probably to Miami, who picks Tagovailoa. "The team trading into this slot would not have to worry about the Giants selecting a quarterback fourth overall. The team would simply be jumping into a spot so that another quarterback-needy team would not get that chance."
4. Giants: Thomas
5. Lions: Okudah
6. Chargers: Herbert
7. Panthers: Wills
8. Cardinals: Brown. "It’s also easy projecting a wide receiver to the Cardinals 'just because you have an offensive coach (Kliff Kingsbury) and you don’t have any speed,' a personnel director said. 'I would take Jerry Jeudy among the receivers, but who knows, Kingsbury could like the other Alabama guy (Henry Ruggs III). Brown is the second-best defender in the draft.'"
9. Jaguars: Jeudy
10. Browns: Becton

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PERFECT! Here's a compelling write up on D. Brown by an ex NFL DE. He very much thinks DB is the best DT to come out since Aaron Donald.

www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/3/3/21158412/derrick-brown-nfl-draft-2020-dt-film-breakdown-highlights-auburn
 

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Luke Keuchly was a college LB who didn't make plays behind the LOS. Obviously that changed when he went to the NFL. That being said, he was a productive college LB who was drafted to be a LB. I still am extremely hesitant in taking any ILB in the top 10 of drafts. Even if you re-drafted that class, Luke was at best the 10th best player in that class. I would take Luck, Stephon Gilmore, Fletcher Cox, Melvin Ingram, Chandler Jones, David DeCastro, Kevin Zeitler, Mitchell Schwartz, Bobby Wagner, Russell Wilson, and Brandon Brooks over him. That does not count some other really good players in that draft who still have a chance to pass Luke.
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I’m sorry but this is one of the worst takes I have ever read on this board. Some guys just flat out can’t admit when there wrong. You do understand that Kuechly is a hall of famer right.

7x pro bowl
5x first team all pro
2x second team all pro
Defensive rookie of the year
3x Butkus award winner(best LB)
Defensive player of the year

the fact you think some of those guys are better than him is a flat out joke and I do mean a a flat out joke.
Ain’t a damn GM in this world that would take Melvin Ingram over Kuechly.

look up some of those guys and see there not half as decorated as LK but yeah there better. Im not even going to get into this debate but damn it’s F’ing ok to say hey I was wrong about a guy.
 

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Still CeeDee Lamb all day.
Unfortunately we've All seen Keim draft for need (And how has that worked out for Cards fans).
If given the choice between drafting a No. 2 Defensive player, A No.2 Offensive Lineman, or a No.1 wide reciever even if the Cards have Jeudy ranked higher..
IMHO... Go for the best player..
Boldin was rookie of the year yet Denny Green still drafted Fitz because he was the best player available.
IMO... I would rather have a No.1 reciever rather than a No. 2 or 3 lineman, or a No. 2 or 3 defensive player.
Everytime Keim drafts for need... We Lose..
 

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If Chase Young is available... Then Go Chase Young... If Mekhi Beckham is available... then go there.. If NOT... Then Go the Next best player which IMO is Wide Reciever...
 

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Still CeeDee Lamb all day.
Unfortunately we've All seen Keim draft for need (And how has that worked out for Cards fans).
If given the choice between drafting a No. 2 Defensive player, A No.2 Offensive Lineman, or a No.1 wide reciever even if the Cards have Jeudy ranked higher..
IMHO... Go for the best player..
Boldin was rookie of the year yet Denny Green still drafted Fitz because he was the best player available.
IMO... I would rather have a No.1 reciever rather than a No. 2 or 3 lineman, or a No. 2 or 3 defensive player.
Everytime Keim drafts for need... We Lose..

You do understand that the perceived #2 Olineman may turn out to be better than the perceived #1 Olineman and that is frequently the case with WR's. Heck even the #4 or #7 WR may turn out better than the "#1WR". This happens at all positions.

We have sooo many needs that the only positions that SK should not draft at 10 is QB and positions that aren't as impactful, like kickers or interior Oline.
 

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I’m sorry but this is one of the worst takes I have ever read on this board. Some guys just flat out can’t admit when there wrong. You do understand that Kuechly is a hall of famer right.

7x pro bowl
5x first team all pro
2x second team all pro
Defensive rookie of the year
3x Butkus award winner(best LB)
Defensive player of the year

the fact you think some of those guys are better than him is a flat out joke and I do mean a a flat out joke.
Ain’t a damn GM in this world that would take Melvin Ingram over Kuechly.

look up some of those guys and see there not half as decorated as LK but yeah there better. Im not even going to get into this debate but damn it’s F’ing ok to say hey I was wrong about a guy.
Yeah Ingram was pretty good. No contest vs. Kuechly though.

You go into any draft and you can pull out 2nd and 3rd rounders who WAY outperformed their draft position, and became Pro Bowlers.

Kuechly was always going to be top 10 in that draft class. You have to compare 1st rounders in any particular draft class. Or at least top 40-50 picks. Anyone else pretty much way out performed their draft status, and were never seriously in 1st round consideration.
 

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You do understand that the perceived #2 Olineman may turn out to be better than the perceived #1 Olineman and that is frequently the case with WR's. Heck even the #4 or #7 WR may turn out better than the "#1WR". This happens at all positions.




We have sooo many needs that the only positions that SK should not draft at 10 is QB and positions that aren't as impactful, like kickers or interior Oline.

I can understand that other than QB and Kicker, Every other position on this team can use depth or an upgrade (By the way... The Cards draft at 8 (for now) and not 10)...
However, as (WildBB )stated above.. You're always going to hav players that out perform their draft position. But the Cards have shown time and time again that when they draft for position first and talent later, Keim gets it wrong.
By your logic... With Boldin having won rookie of the year the very next year. The Cardinals should have looked at the #2 O-Lineman or the #4 or #7 Wide Reciever rather than Taking Larry Fitzgerald.

Dennis Green may have been a crazy head coach but he did build the Cards team that went to the Super Bowl and his philosophy of drafting the best player avaiable is still sound. If the Cards have a #2, #3 or #4 OLineman on their board above the WR's then they should go for it.
If they have a #2, #3 or #4 Defensive player ranked above all the recivers than they should go for that..
My point was that Keim drafting for needs at position first and foremost has not worked out well for the Cardinals franchise.
 
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I can understand that other than QB and Kicker, Every other position on this team can use depth or an upgrade (By the way... The Cards draft at 8 (for now) and not 10)...
However, as (WildBB )stated above.. You're always going to hav players that out perform their draft position. But the Cards have shown time and time again that when they draft for position first and talent later, Keim gets it wrong.
By your logic... With Boldin having won rookie of the year the very next year. The Cardinals should have looked at the #2 O-Lineman or the #4 or #7 Wide Reciever rather than Taking Larry Fitzgerald.

Dennis Green may have been a crazy head coach but he did build the Cards team that went to the Super Bowl and his philosophy of drafting the best player avaiable is still sound. If the Cards have a #2, #3 or #4 OLineman on their board above the WR's then they should go for it.
If they have a #2, #3 or #4 Defensive player ranked above all the recivers than they should go for that..
My point was that Keim drafting for needs at position first and foremost has not worked out well for the Cardinals franchise.

I think keim supposed to draft the best player available based on his draftboard
That s why he picked Byron Murphy, was rated 6th on their board, a slot cornerback questionable move since u have Budda baker already on the roster
If he was drafting for need he could look for another type of cornerback, considering Alford age and the doubts around him
 
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Lots of talk this week about a tag and trade for Chris Jones.

Can you imagine if we were able to add Chris Jones and Derrick Brown? Our D-line instantly becomes a strength of the team, and we become very very difficult to run on.

Add in an athletic ILB in round 3 like Malik Harrison...and our defense becomes pretty special.

1- Derrick Brown
2- Denzel Mims
3- Malik Harrison
 

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Lots of talk this week about a tag and trade for Chris Jones.

Can you imagine if we were able to add Chris Jones and Derrick Brown? Our D-line instantly becomes a strength of the team, and we become very very difficult to run on.

Add in an athletic ILB in round 3 like Malik Harrison...and our defense becomes pretty special.

1- Derrick Brown
2- Denzel Mims
3- Malik Harrison
Sorry I don’t agree with you. Jones missed some games this year ( like most). To tie that much up in one player leaves a huge hole with nowhere to go if said player gets injured. I’d rather have two 10m guys than one 20m guy.
 

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Aaron Donald blew up the combine. Derrick Brown did NOT.

If we pick him I will be sick.

AD: 4.68 40, 35 reps, 32” vertical, 116” broad jump, 7.11 3-cone

DB: 5.16 40, 28 reps, 27” vertical, 108” broad jump, 8.22 3-cone
They are different types for sure. DB will be an excellent pro if he manages his weight. Otherwise were looking at another Wilfork. Which would'nt be horrible. But more then likely a great 3 tech in 3/4 system.

Anyway I expect Cards to address DL in FA.
 

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Sorry I don’t agree with you. Jones missed some games this year ( like most). To tie that much up in one player leaves a huge hole with nowhere to go if said player gets injured. I’d rather have two 10m guys than one 20m guy.
Yep. No way in hell I'm paying the cost of a high draft pick AND the contract Jones is going to get.

Another concept I'll file under moves that are made out of desperation to turn this thing around instantly but won't work.
 

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Aaron Donald blew up the combine. Derrick Brown did NOT.

If we pick him I will be sick.

AD: 4.68 40, 35 reps, 32” vertical, 116” broad jump, 7.11 3-cone

DB: 5.16 40, 28 reps, 27” vertical, 108” broad jump, 8.22 3-cone
Thank you for posting. I wondered at the #s.
 

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He projects to be a good run-stopping DT but doesn’t show the agility or finesse to do anything but bull-rush. That’s a mid- to late-first kinda guy.
 

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I’m sorry but this is one of the worst takes I have ever read on this board. Some guys just flat out can’t admit when there wrong. You do understand that Kuechly is a hall of famer right.

7x pro bowl
5x first team all pro
2x second team all pro
Defensive rookie of the year
3x Butkus award winner(best LB)
Defensive player of the year

the fact you think some of those guys are better than him is a flat out joke and I do mean a a flat out joke.
Ain’t a damn GM in this world that would take Melvin Ingram over Kuechly.

look up some of those guys and see there not half as decorated as LK but yeah there better. Im not even going to get into this debate but damn it’s F’ing ok to say hey I was wrong about a guy.
Kuechly is out of the league...so I am pretty sure a lot of GMs would prefer a player who is still playing vs a player who is not playing anymore.

All that said, if you read the post it indicates that he is arguably the 10th best player in that draft...so even if you say that he, an ILB, is better than Ingram, an OLB, it still makes that assertion correct. It isn't to say that other guys won't overtake Kuechly as they still have years of production left. The same argument will be made against Andrew Luck over time. Andrew Luck was a better QB than Russell Wilson. That being said, Russell will pass him by because he will have played longer and produced a hell of a lot more when it is all said and done.
 

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