Henry Ruggs III

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  1. Praxis

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    Do you expect us to take Wills at #8? I like him, just saying it's unlikely.
     
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    Either him or Wirfs.
     
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    You keep saying the same thing repeatedly, like it’s going to change our minds. I get it... You want them to improve the oline as do I, just not with unproven rookies that are difficult at best to project like QBs.

    And your same inane argument continues to center on K1 getting injured, which hasn’t happened yet since he’s quicker than the 11 trying to catch him at every level.

    I’d much rather grab game breaking speed and athleticism at outside WR that loosens up the defense and make it easier to get the ball out quickly to all of these playmakers underneath than running Fitz, Kirk, and the rest of the 2020 misfits out there again for more 12 and 21 personnel.

    Let’s light the fuse and watch the scoreboard explode!
     
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    Don't hold your breath. Always nice to have an elite line but skill players will help Murray make plays, too.
     
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    There's a difference between "pocket passer" and strategically asking your QB to create something from nothing.

    If you're going to focus on "vintage Russ," please tell me which elite, 1st round WRs the guy had. He won the Super Bowl with Golden Tate and freaking Doug Baldwin getting less than a thousand yards. He returned to the Super Bowl with Doug Baldwin again under 900 yards, and the next guy at less than 600. Never did he have a 1000 yard receiver, never did he need four.

    You know what he did have? A dominant ground game, led by a star center in Max Unger, a two-time Pro Bowler in Russel Okung, a first round guard in James Carpenter, and solid offensive line play all around. Plus a dominant defense.
     
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    Pro Bowl and elite offensive line talent rarely makes it to the open market.

    I'm gonna keep harping on this, I don't have anything better to do. Drafting a WR, especially Ruggs, at #8, would be the dumbest thing this team could do, and would continue to prove Keim just wants to be the smartest guy in the room as opposed to actually winning games.

    You want to play Madden. Sorry, gonna be rude about this one. We have tons of WR talent, and our OL and defense suck.
     
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    Seattle was run-first with Lynch and Wilson and relied on its defense. I was really only comparing K1 and RW as far as dual threat capability.
     
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    Yeah, and RW didn't have to run for his life because of it. You're literally advocating for him to run away more and stack up at WR in a case where there's no precedent. Is it exciting football? Sure. Winning football? No.
     
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    Having elite WRs spreads the defense. We had an awful line in 2009 but Warner had Fitz, Boldin, and Breaston as targets. It's not like K1 will be running up the gut. He just needs the OTs to chip enough for him to use his 4.3 speed to pick up first downs.
     
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    We already have elite WRs, or better than most. Breaston was a 5th round pick who emerged. Breaston was less talented than Christian Kirk, but did just fine when all of the focus was on Fitz and Boldin, like it will be now with Fitz and Hopkins.

    Please, name me a winning team that is succeeding because of the major investment in WRs that we're talking about the Cardinals making here.

    There aren't any. This would be the dumbest allocation of resources for a guy who will be on the field under 50% of the time.
     
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    I still can’t believe folks want to go WR in round 1 like lmao Jesus
     
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    Russ is not a runner, what he does is extend plays
     
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    Right, K1 will be closer to Russ than Lamar.
     
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    This . Early on they had a great defense. When Wilson’s time came to get paid the Seahawks had to start to let some of their offensive line walk... and they still keep winning.

    I wonder what number we’re going to assign Ruggs?
     
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    Tell that to K1. He wants Lamb. OL would make sense if Rosen were still the QB or we were running >50% of snaps. We're probably not getting Young, Simmons, or Okudah so my guess is it's WR at #8 or a trade down for WR and defense.
     
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