Grade the Arizona Defense

[PACardsFan]

Our defense is so fraudulent

Maybe so, but tough not to be with all the injuries to this side of the ball.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think that's too harsh aside from the 4th quarter.

Maybe, but I think considering the money they spent on that side of the ball, plus draft capital and the fact that they have been flat out AWFUL in every fourth quarter, blowing leads in 4 straight games, at the end of the day, they’re a failure to me.

 

[Buckybird]

Maybe so, but tough not to be with all the injuries to this side of the ball.

No excuse imo.

The coaches are too complacent & conservative. They’ve shown us that for most of their 3 year tenure. Think about it, if they’ve shown it for 3 years it’s exactly their style & who they are. They play not to lose, instead of playing to win. With the game on the line we saw them bring more than 4 one single time & it was around the 20 yard line & he threw it in the dirt. They act like we’ve got 3 all pros on our Dline, when in all reality our pass rush is mediocre at best. You have to mix it up & Rallis & JG continue to play scared football

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

the Cards defense has not made a meaningful stop.

The last 4 games, the opponents have scored on their last possession, sans Indy running out the clock, to win the game.
That's just unacceptable.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

taylor straight killed us

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He was literally carrying guys with him for extra yards.

Multiple guys

Tough to bring down and runs with passion

 

[Chopper0080]

Maybe, but I think considering the money they spent on that side of the ball, plus draft capital and the fact that they have been flat out AWFUL in every fourth quarter, blowing leads in 4 straight games, at the end of the day, they’re a failure to me.

I mean...that's a weird grading system.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

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I grade the defense a C

They obviously have the talent and scheme to be a good defense

But chicken crap coaching, send 4 and play soft zone defense in the 4th quarter, will never allow the team to be a winner.

 

[Mulli]

The QBs they have played are kind of bottom tier

 

[602 Native]

The QBs they have played are kind of bottom tier

Said this as well.

The board has zero idea what a good NFL team looks like because they rarely see them.

Colts were the first complete team we have faced. GB will be the 2nd. Seachickens are good but they have lots of flaws.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I mean...that's a weird grading system.

Don’t care. Give them props for being “competitive” for three quarters against the easiest schedule in the league so far and an abomination when it counts in those games. My bar is higher.

 

[PACardsFan]

No excuse imo.

The coaches are too complacent & conservative. They’ve shown us that for most of their 3 year tenure. Think about it, if they’ve shown it for 3 years it’s exactly their style & who they are. They play not to lose, instead of playing to win. With the game on the line we saw them bring more than 4 one single time & it was around the 20 yard line & he threw it in the dirt. They act like we’ve got 3 all pros on our Dline, when in all reality our pass rush is mediocre at best. You have to mix it up & Rallis & JG continue to play scared football

I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said, but sometimes you have to play conservatively when you’re missing as many bodies on defense as we’re missing. When you’re constantly sending in new faces throughout the course of a game, you have no choice but to simplify your approach. And that results in conservative play calling.

I recall hearing both JG & Rallis say that they change their defense up every year, otherwise they get predictable, and OC’s more easily attack them with success. Not just “some” injuries, but “massive” injury numbers make that approach very difficult.

 

[GoldGloveschmidt]

I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said, but sometimes you have to play conservatively when you’re missing as many bodies on defense as we’re missing. When you’re constantly sending in new faces throughout the course of a game, you have no choice but to simplify your approach. And that results in conservative play calling.

I recall hearing both JG & Rallis say that they change their defense up every year, otherwise they get predictable, and OC’s more easily attack them with success. Not just “some” injuries, but “massive” injury numbers make that approach very difficult.

Sorry but if I have backups in the game I want to force the QB to throw as quickly as possible and make a play. Rushing 4 and dropping 7 gives the QB all day to throw and the replacement players more time to get lost in coverage. It's been 6 games and the coaching staff has done the same thing in every Q4 which is to play conservatively and it has lost/nearly lost them all 6 games. Definition of insanity

 

[PACardsFan]

Sorry but if I have backups in the game I want to force the QB to throw as quickly as possible and make a play. Rushing 4 and dropping 7 gives the QB all day to throw and the replacement players more time to get lost in coverage. It's been 6 games and the coaching staff has done the same thing in every Q4 which is to play conservatively and it has lost/nearly lost them all 6 games. Definition of insanity

It may appear that way to you. Rallis & JG run a complicated defense that requires tremendous attention to detail. With more and more injuries, they have to scale back what they do or we will see breakdowns in the secondary that result in massive increases in chunk plays.

 

[Cheesebeef]

It may appear that way to you. Rallis & JG run a complicated defense that requires tremendous attention to detail. With more and more injuries, they have to scale back what they do or we will see breakdowns in the secondary that result in massive increases in chunk plays.

How’s that working for them at the end of these games… you know… when they’re repeatedly giving up chunk plays increasingly during the fourth quarter where they’re giving up amongst a league worst 10 points per quarter?

 

[602 Native]

Don’t care. Give them props for being “competitive” for three quarters against the easiest schedule in the league so far and an abomination when it counts in those games. My bar is higher.

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[TheCardFan]

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[PACardsFan]

How’s that working for them at the end of these games… you know… when they’re repeatedly giving up chunk plays increasingly during the fourth quarter where they’re giving up amongst a league worst 10 points per quarter?

Whether we’re too frustrated to care to listen, there is a direct correlation between injuries and winning in the NFL. The Lions were the best team in the NFL last year until injuries made it impossible for them to beat anyone by the end of the season. All other things being equal, the healthiest team generally walks away with the Lombardi Trophy. The team we thought we bought and drafted never even made it to game 1. You do the best with what you have, but once decimated with injuries, that’s not usually enough. Look, it’s not rocket science that the best OC’s save their best plays for when they count the most……the 4th quarter.

 

[KYCardFan]

The Colts only faced third down once in last 2 TD drives

 

[Stout]

Whether we’re too frustrated to care to listen, there is a direct correlation between injuries and winning in the NFL. The Lions were the best team in the NFL last year until injuries made it impossible for them to beat anyone by the end of the season. All other things being equal, the healthiest team generally walks away with the Lombardi Trophy. The team we thought we bought and drafted never even made it to game 1. You do the best with what you have, but once decimated with injuries, that’s not usually enough. Look, it’s not rocket science that the best OC’s save their best plays for when they count the most……the 4th quarter.

Sure there is. So why, if Rallis thinks we're screwed anyway, stick with a four-man rush at the end of games when it's literally not worked week after week? Definition of insanity.

 

[Cheesebeef]

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THAT is why they’re deserving of an F.

Jesus what a horrific stat.

 

[kerouac9]

I recall hearing both JG & Rallis say that they change their defense up every year, otherwise they get predictable, and OC’s more easily attack them with success. Not just “some” injuries, but “massive” injury numbers make that approach very difficult.

The only defensive injuries they had from what they brought to camp was Garrett Williams (who is a corner where we have a bunch of depth) and Darius Robinson, who seems like Robert Nkeimdiche with better PR.

So what’s the problem?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Whether we’re too frustrated to care to listen, there is a direct correlation between injuries and winning in the NFL. The Lions were the best team in the NFL last year until injuries made it impossible for them to beat anyone by the end of the season.

Even with all their injuries last year, the Lions still went 14-3. Kinda hard to for it to have been “impossible for the Lions to beat anyone by the end of the season” when they went 6-1 down the stretch, including beating playoff teams Green Bay AND pummeling the Vikings on the last game of the regular season to wrap up HFA. Kinda hard to go 6-1 when it’s impossible to win, no? And all of those wins kept happening AFTER injuries started taking their toll.

I mean, you’re just factually wrong about demonstrably and easily provable facts.

We can’t even beat the atrocious and other than us 0-5 Tennessee Titans who just fired their coach.

Try again.

 

[kerouac9]

Even with all their injuries last year, the Lions still went 14-3. Kinda hard to for it to have been “impossible for the Lions to beat anyone by the end of the season” when they went 6-1 down the stretch, including beating playoff teams Green Bay AND pummeling the Vikings on the last game of the regular season to wrap up HFA. Kinda hard to go 6-1 when it’s impossible to win, no? And all of those wins kept happening AFTER injuries started taking their toll.

I mean, you’re just factually wrong about demonstrably and easily provable facts.

We can’t even beat the atrocious and other than us 0-5 Tennessee Titans who just fired their coach.

Try again.

Bruh you gotta have faith MOJG have a plan and it was to not be good this season and then sustained success will arrive. DO YOU BELIEBE IN MIRACLES?!

 

[PACardsFan]

Even with all their injuries last year, the Lions still went 14-3. Kinda hard to for it to have been “impossible for the Lions to beat anyone by the end of the season” when they went 6-1 down the stretch, including beating playoff teams Green Bay AND pummeling the Vikings on the last game of the regular season to wrap up HFA. Kinda hard to go 6-1 when it’s impossible to win, no? And all of those wins kept happening AFTER injuries started taking their toll.

I mean, you’re just factually wrong about demonstrably and easily provable facts.

We can’t even beat the atrocious and other than us 0-5 Tennessee Titans who just fired their coach.

Try again.

You might want to go back and see how many points their D was giving up after Thanksgiving. What I said was factually correct. Their injury ravaged D did make it impossible to win “late” in the season. If not for their insanely great offense, they would have lost more than they did. They gave up over 40 twice down the stretch & one of those games was a playoff game where they scored over 30 and still got throttled. And even if they managed to win that game, all of the remaining teams in the playoffs would have put up 40 also. My point is 100% accurate. Once your D has been decimated by injuries, it becomes very difficult, no matter who’s coaching that defense, to succeed in the NFL.

 

[Dback Jon]

Which quarter?

4th quarter is an F-----