Gabbert

[Ronin]

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[JCSunsfan]

Gabbert is an average NFL starting QB.

Do you realize how hard it is to get one of those?

 

[Solar7]

Assuming Carson Palmer isn't back, and Arians remains as HC, I re-sign Gabbert in 2018 and give him the chance to compete for the job with another mid-level QB (thinking Taylor, Keenum, Bridgewater, Bradford, etc.), Stanton, and a draft pick.

I'm not sold on him as our starter but I can swallow giving him a chance to prove himself after another full offseason in the same offense.

If Palmer returns? I still try to bring him back as a backup, but I can't envision Arians parting ways with Stanton, or Gabbert agreeing to come back as the #3 QB.

But I will acquiesce to one thing, I think Gabbert is a better player than Stanton at this point.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Carson Palmer

To be fair to Palmer, he looked like a superstar in his third season where he threw for 36 tds and 12 picks while pushing the Bengals to their first playoffs in over a decade, then had the knee injury and a couple seasons later was decent enough to get ten back to the playoffs again.

 

[JeffGollin]

To me the issue has always been whether Gabbert's flaws were correctable or whether they were ingrained.

Based on admittedly a brief amount of review, I'm leaning toward "correctable" and am right now fairly hopeful.

 

[Southpaw]

Whatever happened to the new poster that really liked Gabbert, but was beat down by all the Gabbert naysayers in this board. I think he was banned for awhile? Is he back?

He got the traditional ASFN beat down is my guess.

 

[oaken1]

If we finish 7-9 or even 8-9, will there even be a qbotf on the draft board?

any spot outside the top five was going to require a trade up anyway

 

[cardpa]

D. Brees 22 32 246 1 0 vs Rams Defense

B. Gabbert 22 38 241 2 1 vs Jags Defense

Similar numbers. Both top ranked defenses. Brees was sacked 3 times, Gabbert once.

R. Wilson 20 34 228 2 1 vs SF defense

K. Cousins 19/31 242 2 1 vs Giant defense

Again similar numbers against shaky defenses

I would say Gabbert held his own.

 

[Southpaw]

Jags defense is the real deal.

 

[Ronin]

Darren Urban‏Verified account@Cardschatter
Arians: At QB “we’re going to stick with Blaine right now.” Stanton will be the backup.

Josh Weinfuss‏Verified account@joshweinfuss 5m5 minutes ago
The Cardinals will stick with Blaine Gabbert at quarterback, coach Bruce Arians said. Drew Stanton will continue to back him up. http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0726879752085837725-4…

 

[Ronin]

Kyle Odegard‏@Kyle_Odegard 1m1 minute ago
Arians said if Palmer retires he would be comfortable with Blaine Gabbert as his 2018 starter based on his current play.

 

[Ronin]

Josh Weinfuss‏Verified account@joshweinfuss 2m2 minutes ago
Cardinals coach Bruce Arians on how feels about Blaine Gabbert potentially being Arizona's quarterback next year: "The way he's playing, I'd be very, very comfortable." http://www.espn.com/espn/now?nowId=21-0726881496610117552-4…

Darren Urban‏Verified account@Cardschatter
Arians, on how he’d feel if Gabbert had to be 2018 starter: “The way he’s playing right now I’d be very confident.”

 

[Cheesebeef]

I’d be fine with Gabbert as the bridge guy for the QBOTF we NEED to finally draft, no matter what it takes to move up.

 

[Shane]

Great speculation and all.. But If Blaine keeps playing well we may not be able to even resign the guy..

 

[oaken1]

Great speculation and all.. But If Blaine keeps playing well we may not be able to even resign the guy..

right?? He might pull an osweiller

 

[Metcalf Rules]

Can anyone name a former high first round draft pick who was mediocre for two different teams and then became a quality starter for his third team? I am struggling to think of a single example of something that many on this board are convinced could/will happen.

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Vinny Testeverde.

 

[oaken1]

Vinny Testeverde.

did Vinny play for anyone other than cleveland?? LOL... every mental image I have of him has him in a Browns uniform..

 

[AZ Native]

right?? He might pull an osweiller

Based on his past 7 years, yeah I think he would jump at the $$$, don't blame him. We are paying him $895,000. He still has a lot to prove but if he looks decent over the last 5 games who knows what offers he will get.

 

[oaken1]

Based on his past 7 years, yeah I think he would jump at the $$$, don't blame him. We are paying him $895,000. He still has a lot to prove but if he looks decent over the last 5 games who knows what offers he will get.

I dunno... drop Stanton and offer Gabby the $3mil a year we pay Drew...for three years...with a player opt out after 2....
gives him the opportunity to earn more if he stays a starter and starts producing

 

[AZ Native]

I dunno... drop Stanton and offer Gabby the $3mil a year we pay Drew...for three years...with a player opt out after 2....
gives him the opportunity to earn more if he stays a starter and starts producing

I'm good with that. It's the QB hunting other teams who may overpay him if if does decent.

 

[AZfaninMN]

That is insane, just flat out insane... words (and even thoughts) fail me that someone could say that.

Is AZFaninMN Drews wife ? What else could explain that ?

What’s so insane about that? How about a quiz since it’s insane? Who has a winning record in the nfl? Stanton and winning record for the cardinals as a starter. Who has been in the system longer? Stanton and has proved to have moderate success hence the winning record. Who has posted a better 3rd down percentage in the games they’ve started? Stanton once again. Who has less turnovers? Stanton still!!! 3rd down conversions and winning the turnover battle wins games which Stanton has proved this year to be better at. Gabbert isn’t the answer. He’s a backup just like Stanton. Stanton gives us the better chance to win the rest of the season.

 

[MrYeahBut]

did Vinny play for anyone other than cleveland?? LOL... every mental image I have of him has him in a Browns uniform..

He played for the Panthers... they signed him from his retirement couch and I think it was his first game back he beat the Cardinals, at 40+ years old!! lol

 

[cardncubfan]

Whatever happened to the new poster that really liked Gabbert, but was beat down by all the Gabbert naysayers in this board. I think he was banned for awhile? Is he back?

I think he changed his name to pmacLean.

 

[MrYeahBut]

Darren Urban‏Verified account@Cardschatter
Arians, on how he’d feel if Gabbert had to be 2018 starter: “The way he’s playing right now I’d be very confident.”

Uhhhhh, this is the same coach who said Levi Brown was an elite tackle

 

[jbeecham]

What’s so insane about that? How about a quiz since it’s insane? Who has a winning record in the nfl? Stanton and winning record for the cardinals as a starter. Who has been in the system longer? Stanton and has proved to have moderate success hence the winning record. Who has posted a better 3rd down percentage in the games they’ve started? Stanton once again. Who has less turnovers? Stanton still!!! 3rd down conversions and winning the turnover battle wins games which Stanton has proved this year to be better at. Gabbert isn’t the answer. He’s a backup just like Stanton. Stanton gives us the better chance to win the rest of the season.

Do you mean the better chance at winning a high draft pick? Because then I'd agree with you

Stanton may know the system better, but he can't execute it... Proof: Stanton 48.4% completion percentage this season... Gabbert 61.1% against Houston & Jacksonville, not the lowly 49ers (Drew was only 50% comps against SF). It doesn't matter how well you know the playbook if you can't accurately make the throws & throw a clean catchable ball.

Stanton has a 7-3 record as a starter... true, but almost all of those wins have come against losing teams (3 against SF) & were with a better team around him than our current roster.

Stanton does have less turnovers this year... Gabbert needs to improve in this area... more reps in the offense might help, who knows... Palmer has the same issue & hasn't shook it.

3rd down % doesn't mean much when one guys plays the 49ers & the other beats the top ranked defense in the NFL. Gabbert needs to stop throwing short of the sticks on 3rd down.

Gabbert has made some costly turnovers (2 ints were with 5 min left in the 4th qtr & down 10 to Houston), but overall he's been the better backup QB this year in my opinion. I'm not saying he's the answer as a starter going forward (I want to draft a 1st rd rookie QB), but so far he looks like a better option than anyone we had when Warner retired.