Fire Petzing now

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This seems like a weird request to quid pro quo with. One is about real people that folks have real relationships with and the other is you protecting Kyler who doesn't even know you exist.
No its about the double standard that goes on here.

I am not referencing anyone but P Guy and the name has zero to do with insulting anyone but him.
 

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what is wrong with you? someone here politely asks you not to make fun of people with disabilities because posters here have family members with them and you respond that people make fun of Kyler Murray, who you have zero personal relationship with, so you'll keep making fun of people with disabilities?

jesus.

also, what are these derogatory names that Kyler has?
No one asked you, so move along.
 

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This is a reflection on your character as a person, not as a football fan.

Again, I respectfully ask you to stop adding the hate to a marginalized group of people who can't help having the disabilities they have.
Oh please you know nothing about me but please keep trying.
 

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most people look at the field and see an offense - @602 Native sees kyler murray and 10 players holding kyler murray back - an offensive coordinator that's holding kyler murray back - defense too - everybody but kyler murray is why kyler murray can't succeed - kingsbury held him back - keim and monti held him back - truth is kyler murray just isn't that good and @602 Native can't handle it
 

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most people look at the field and see an offense - @602 Native sees kyler murray and 10 players holding kyler murray back - an offensive coordinator that's holding kyler murray back - defense too - everybody but kyler murray is why kyler murray can't succeed - kingsbury held him back - keim and monti held him back - truth is kyler murray just isn't that good and @602 Native can't handle it
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JG: "I had no problems with the offensive playcalling. I knew exactly what we were calling, so if you have a problem with that, you can look to me."

Bro, does Uncle Fester have some Kompramat on you? Ugh dude, this is not the way.
I think we can all agree that words are irrelevant unless they match action. I’m cool with JG saying this stuff to own his ship if he’s actually doing something behind the scenes to remedy the problem. If not, and this is Arians/Amos Jones pt2, lord help us.
 

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Special Ps job is to figure this out.

Its either the scheme
The QB
The WRs
The OC

Or a combo

It doesn't matter which one needs to change but the coaches are the ones who solve these problems. They haven't for 2 years and thats the real problem.
 

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The ultra conservative approach needs to stop...it's obviously not working. At some point KM needs to grow a pair and start taking some downfield risks. Petz is clearly not the best OC in the world, but Kyler's propensity to constantly throw it 3-4 yards every single play is an indication that he doesn't want to hang in the pocket, because he's scared to get touched. I don't think it matters who the OC is...it all comes down to KM not being such a wuss.
 

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The ultra conservative approach needs to stop...it's obviously not working. At some point KM needs to grow a pair and start taking some downfield risks. Petz is clearly not the best OC in the world, but Kyler's propensity to constantly throw it 3-4 yards every single play is an indication that he doesn't want to hang in the pocket, because he's scared to get touched. I don't think it matters who the OC is...it all comes down to KM not being such a wuss.
Agree. Drew sucks, but Kyler isn’t a good enough player to overcome his ineptitude
 

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It's a shame. I really thought we were gonna have a smashmouth offense. Kyler running more and the ability to hit timely deep shots. We have some big TE's and WR's that can wear down an opponent along with our ground game.

Our inability to run the ball is killing everything. Kyler rarely keeps the ball even when the DE goes inside. We don't roll him out as much as I thought we would. We aren't we throwing the ball up to McBride down the seam like the saints did. And who knows what's up with these Wr's. It's rare they are hit in stride on a rope and too many bucket balls giving DB's a chance to catch up or make a play.
 

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The ultra conservative approach needs to stop...it's obviously not working. At some point KM needs to grow a pair and start taking some downfield risks. Petz is clearly not the best OC in the world, but Kyler's propensity to constantly throw it 3-4 yards every single play is an indication that he doesn't want to hang in the pocket, because he's scared to get touched. I don't think it matters who the OC is...it all comes down to KM not being such a wuss.
More thoughts and feelings.

"K1 is scared"
"K1 doesn't want to hang in the pocket"
"K1 is a wuss"

None of this can be proven though but please tell us more.
 

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On the flip side, you can't prove it's not true, either. Stats and film won't be on your side.
What stats detail out that K1 is scared or a wuss, or even he doesn't want to hang in the pocket (which you will point to stats that he doesn't and still doesn't prove what you have said).
 

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No its about the double standard that goes on here.

I am not referencing anyone but P Guy and the name has zero to do with insulting anyone but him.
No, you are casually (now fully aware and actively) insulting marginalized people by using it as an insult. You might as well toss around the N word while you're at it. That's about as classy and socially correct.
 

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It's a shame. I really thought we were gonna have a smashmouth offense. Kyler running more and the ability to hit timely deep shots. We have some big TE's and WR's that can wear down an opponent along with our ground game.

Our inability to run the ball is killing everything. Kyler rarely keeps the ball even when the DE goes inside. We don't roll him out as much as I thought we would. We aren't we throwing the ball up to McBride down the seam like the saints did. And who knows what's up with these Wr's. It's rare they are hit in stride on a rope and too many bucket balls giving DB's a chance to catch up or make a play.
Kyler’s decisionmaking on the RPUs is starting to look like self-preservation. There were a couple of plays where he’s got the ball in the rb’s gut, sees two defensive linemen crashing down on him, and doesn’t pull the ball. I was like “wtf?!? Does he understand what RPU means?”
 

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I think we can all agree that words are irrelevant unless they match action. I’m cool with JG saying this stuff to own his ship if he’s actually doing something behind the scenes to remedy the problem. If not, and this is Arians/Amos Jones pt2, lord help us.
Problem is we already know adjustments aren’t being made and haven’t been made thus far now through 3 games.
 
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