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This is hilarious. What’s the deal with Kliff’s shirt?
Fire Petzing now
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Ok lol
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Do you understand English? I'm not defending Petzing. I'm calling out offensive language. Easy to distinguish.
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Hey, Marv just made a really crappy play. Let's avoid him at all costs the next series, go 3 and out, and punt from our 20. Absolutely terrible OC.
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Hey guys let’s give up after second down and we’ll try it again next series
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Mr Steal Your Girl needs to go back on the streets.
This is one of the most gutless offenses I have ever watched.
This is one of the most gutless offenses I have ever watched.
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Great terrible time to try a flea flicker
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I’ll give Petzing a little bit a slack.
Blame Petzing
Blame Kyler
Blame Marv
Blame the Guards
We have no burners on this team. I’ve been preaching this all offseason. No vertical threats.
Herbert would make this offense a lot better because he is a lot better than Kyler
Same with KOC or McVay over Petzing
But the ceiling on this offense would still be low compared to playoff contenders because we have no burners at all.
Blame Petzing
Blame Kyler
Blame Marv
Blame the Guards
We have no burners on this team. I’ve been preaching this all offseason. No vertical threats.
Herbert would make this offense a lot better because he is a lot better than Kyler
Same with KOC or McVay over Petzing
But the ceiling on this offense would still be low compared to playoff contenders because we have no burners at all.
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Didn’t even watch the 2nd half.
This offense is putrid and Big Brain P should be shown the door tomorrow.
This offense is putrid and Big Brain P should be shown the door tomorrow.
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That was maybe one of the greatest terrible play calls and execution I can ever recall. And I’m talking about the cardinals!
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Right? On the positive 39 yard line, some momentum going, and you try a play that needs to develop, yet it is a pitch of about 7 yards, horribly blocked and horribly pitched, and turns into a run maybe? Dunno wth they thought was gonna happen there.
I just sat down and don't even know if I saw the next play. I just stared at the dude in front of me as he drunkenly poked at the Seahawks fan beside him.
Why do I torture myself?
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I love that this thread has been bumped with more evidence after every game. I'm not wrong. These idiots are sunk cost fallacy defined.
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This is evergreen. I dare you to even remember which of the 15 games this happened in...names may change but plays remain the same. Rise up Dark Side!
Edit: I had this EXACT same feeling tonight. Wife was still yelling. I was scrolling the game thread wondering why I pay for these seats.
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I posted this at the game. I still think this was when we lost the game. A different OC handles that situation very differently, we put together at least a FG drive, and we are talking about a different ballgame. Players will mess up, but coaches are supposed to put them in position to overcome that. I coach basketball. If one of my best players makes a horrible play and is in their head, I don't ice them out the next few possessions, I get them some targeted screens and run a play to get them an easy shot, a layup, to get them back in the flow. Basketball and football are different in tempo, but players and mentality are a constant.
Fire him now, please.
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Ok, caveat I know chatGPT is kinda ass, but still. I like to have fun running scenarios.
Here's what it thought of that post Marv bobble INT series:
You’re not crazy—that was a trust-and-sequencing failure more than a “protect field position” choice.
Here’s why an OC doesn’t go right back to WR1 after a bobble-INT—and why that logic fell apart Thursday:
Recency bias after the pick. Because the ball went off MHJ’s hands, some OCs default to “cool him off, settle the QB.” But the right way to settle is with easy confidence touches, not silence. Even Kyler acknowledged the offense has been “too all over the place,” which is exactly when you simplify reads to your alpha.
Field-position fear + sack anxiety. Arizona had already eaten six sacks; that nudges coordinators toward low-aDOT calls to RB/TE or a safe run-run-throw sequence. The problem is you can be “safe” and still feature MHJ (screens, RPO glance, keeper flood). Playing scared simply produced a dead series.
Coverage paranoia. If staff feared bracket/double, that’s when you manufacture MHJ: stacks/short motion, quicks and glance RPOs. Instead, they treated the bracket as a reason to go away rather than a reason to scheme him open. Kyler’s postgame made clear he wanted to keep coming back to Marv—and did in Q4, where he went 5-for-5 to MHJ.
Process over player. Petzing’s offense has been criticized locally for predictable sequencing and an allergy to mid-game adjustments (horizontal quicks → inside run → 3rd-and-medium). That tendency showed up in the exact moment the game begged for a targeted, psychology-aware script.
Why I agree it was a defining coaching moment:
Your WR1 had a confidence fracture, your QB was pressing, and you’re coming out backed up. That’s textbook two-touch rule territory—script a quick screen/now to MHJ, then a keeper flood or duo-glance RPO with him first in the progression. Arizona didn’t. They got “safe” without giving their star a low-stress win, lost the series, and bled leverage in a one-score game they ultimately lost on a thin margin (and a special-teams gaffe).
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Here’s the clean takeaway:
Player psychology > playbook. After a high-leverage mistake, WR1 needs two fast, low-stress wins. Arizona chose “safe” without the confidence touch—that’s bad coaching, not bad luck.
Sequencing lost the room. Backed up? Fine—be safe. But “safe and intentional” means screen/flat/glance to MHJ, not hide him. That series screamed “we don’t trust our star”.
Kyler felt it. When the QB doesn’t believe in the sequence, execution drops. You saw it.
If you want a simple litmus test for next week (what you and I would grade on):
Two-Touch Rule: MHJ gets 2 touches in the first 10 snaps and 2 within 4 snaps after any negative play.
Under-center PA as a feature: at least 4 true PA shots in the first 25 plays (with one to MHJ).
Tempo pockets: go no-huddle right after any explosive (≥18 yds).
Constraint answers: after two runs from heavy, hit TE pop or glance—no “run-run-obvious pass.”
Coming-out script: inside your own 20, zero long-developing drops—move the launch point, get MHJ an easy ball.
If they don’t hit those five, that’s not personnel—that’s play-caller.
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This is why I was so pissed. I coach freaking girls varsity basketball and I'd never let my star player get iced like that after a mistake. Petzing is just a TERRIBLE coach. At all elements of coaching.
Here's what it thought of that post Marv bobble INT series:
You’re not crazy—that was a trust-and-sequencing failure more than a “protect field position” choice.
Here’s why an OC doesn’t go right back to WR1 after a bobble-INT—and why that logic fell apart Thursday:
Recency bias after the pick. Because the ball went off MHJ’s hands, some OCs default to “cool him off, settle the QB.” But the right way to settle is with easy confidence touches, not silence. Even Kyler acknowledged the offense has been “too all over the place,” which is exactly when you simplify reads to your alpha.
Field-position fear + sack anxiety. Arizona had already eaten six sacks; that nudges coordinators toward low-aDOT calls to RB/TE or a safe run-run-throw sequence. The problem is you can be “safe” and still feature MHJ (screens, RPO glance, keeper flood). Playing scared simply produced a dead series.
Coverage paranoia. If staff feared bracket/double, that’s when you manufacture MHJ: stacks/short motion, quicks and glance RPOs. Instead, they treated the bracket as a reason to go away rather than a reason to scheme him open. Kyler’s postgame made clear he wanted to keep coming back to Marv—and did in Q4, where he went 5-for-5 to MHJ.
Process over player. Petzing’s offense has been criticized locally for predictable sequencing and an allergy to mid-game adjustments (horizontal quicks → inside run → 3rd-and-medium). That tendency showed up in the exact moment the game begged for a targeted, psychology-aware script.
Why I agree it was a defining coaching moment:
Your WR1 had a confidence fracture, your QB was pressing, and you’re coming out backed up. That’s textbook two-touch rule territory—script a quick screen/now to MHJ, then a keeper flood or duo-glance RPO with him first in the progression. Arizona didn’t. They got “safe” without giving their star a low-stress win, lost the series, and bled leverage in a one-score game they ultimately lost on a thin margin (and a special-teams gaffe).
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Here’s the clean takeaway:
Player psychology > playbook. After a high-leverage mistake, WR1 needs two fast, low-stress wins. Arizona chose “safe” without the confidence touch—that’s bad coaching, not bad luck.
Sequencing lost the room. Backed up? Fine—be safe. But “safe and intentional” means screen/flat/glance to MHJ, not hide him. That series screamed “we don’t trust our star”.
Kyler felt it. When the QB doesn’t believe in the sequence, execution drops. You saw it.
If you want a simple litmus test for next week (what you and I would grade on):
Two-Touch Rule: MHJ gets 2 touches in the first 10 snaps and 2 within 4 snaps after any negative play.
Under-center PA as a feature: at least 4 true PA shots in the first 25 plays (with one to MHJ).
Tempo pockets: go no-huddle right after any explosive (≥18 yds).
Constraint answers: after two runs from heavy, hit TE pop or glance—no “run-run-obvious pass.”
Coming-out script: inside your own 20, zero long-developing drops—move the launch point, get MHJ an easy ball.
If they don’t hit those five, that’s not personnel—that’s play-caller.
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This is why I was so pissed. I coach freaking girls varsity basketball and I'd never let my star player get iced like that after a mistake. Petzing is just a TERRIBLE coach. At all elements of coaching.
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Kyler sucks, I would shop him asap
It would not surprise me if they actually would play better under Brissett - Kyler truly is terrible
This is just dumb. They both suck. Brisset is 90 years old and just a journeyman backup. It was like watching paint dry for the post
Andrew Luck era as a colts fan for 2 seasons
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This post shows AZ fans have zero QB eye.
I’m sure you thought Clayton Tune was an NFL quality QB when we drafted him.
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Any real organization would can Big Brain P after that embarrassment of a game last night.
Another 3/4 of a football game putting up 3 points.
I can’t justify watching this team the whole year with offensive output like that.
JG will either jettison this guy or be fired with him at years end
Another 3/4 of a football game putting up 3 points.
I can’t justify watching this team the whole year with offensive output like that.
JG will either jettison this guy or be fired with him at years end
Playing for FGs instead of going for TDs is costing us points and games
Time to take the gloves off
Time to take the gloves off
If you hadn’t watched the first half we would’ve scored enough points to win!
we have 10 days until our next game - if it's gonna happen it'll be now or during the bye
