Fine, I'm fine with Francis Mauigoa

[D-Dogg]

I've seen enough. We aren't taking Love so let's see what makes us instantly better given our roster. We can shore up the defense with later picks, but OT is gonna go quick this year. Francis is a road grader and great at pass pro. Bookend tackles will benefit us for a decade. Protect whatever louse is behind center and open holes.

I'm sold, but please trade down a few and try to get Ty Simpson too.

FML

 

[schutd]

Sure, why not?

 

[Totally_Red]

I am fine with Mauigoa, Bailey, or Love. All are upgrades and solid choices. If we can trade down and still get one of the three that is even better imo.

 

[az jam]

Most likley will be either Mauigoa or Bailey. They are worthy of #3 and should help the team right away.

 

[Stout]

Most likley will be either Mauigoa or Bailey. They are worthy of #3 and should help the team right away.

Mauigoa is absolutely not worthy of #3. There is no star LT in this draft, let alone a star RT. That would be a vast overdraft.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Mauigoa is absolutely not worthy of #3. There is no star LT in this draft, let alone a star RT. That would be a vast overdraft.

In absolute terms, yes, but in this draft he likely is. There is a reason you see draft experts routinely mocking Mauigoa in the top five, because in this draft he is a top five player.

I don't like it either to be honest, but this draft class is subpar overall.

 

[Krangodnzr]

I am fine with Mauigoa, Bailey, or Love. All are upgrades and solid choices. If we can trade down and still get one of the three that is even better imo.

This is kind of where I fit in too.

I want additions to either front first and foremost. Football is still win at the line of scrimmage.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Mauigoa is absolutely not worthy of #3. There is no star LT in this draft, let alone a star RT. That would be a vast overdraft.

says who?

 

[Goodyear Card]

I would be fine with Mauigoa. What bothers me is people saying he would be better at guard. He is a better run blocker than pass blocker. You want your tackles to be good pass blockers. I just want the cardinals to select an impact player who does not spend half of his rookie season on IR.

 

[gimpy]

says who?

Apparently, Stout.

 

[Stout]

In absolute terms, yes, but in this draft he likely is. There is a reason you see draft experts routinely mocking Mauigoa in the top five, because in this draft he is a top five player.

I don't like it either to be honest, but this draft class is subpar overall.

The reason you see the draft experts mocking him there is because of Monti and because Monti is stupid enough to reach. I'm not saying it won't happen, only that it shouldn't.

 

[Stout]

says who?

First sentence? Me. Second sentence? *Gestures at the football world*

 

[JohnnyCakes]

The reason you see the draft experts mocking him there is because of Monti and because Monti is stupid enough to reach. I'm not saying it won't happen, only that it shouldn't.

Maui could end up being the cardinals anchor RT for a dozen years.

 

[Chopper0080]

Mauigoa is absolutely not worthy of #3. There is no star LT in this draft, let alone a star RT. That would be a vast overdraft.

I disagree with this. I think he is vey close to Penei Sewell. Starting three years at Miami without a redshirt year is very impressive. He can hold up physically at the NFL level. I think his athleticism is good for an outside zone scheme. He is young and polished which is rare.

Again, I prefer a different player, and don't necessarily love the idea of taking a RT at 3, but I felt similar with PJJ in 2023 and that turned out ok. Ultimately, I don't feel that Mauigoa is a "reach" at 3, just like I don't feel Love is a "reach" at 3. They are both talented enough. It's more of if you want to use that level of resource to add a RT or RB.

 

[Stout]

Maui could end up being the cardinals anchor RT for a dozen years.

He could. Or he could stink. Or he could be just decent while we pass up on a Big John pass rusher, for instance. Sound familiar?

 

[JohnnyCakes]

He could. Or he could stink. Or he could be just decent while we pass up on a Big John pass rusher, for instance. Sound familiar?

it does, believe me it does. But i would venture to say that the #1 long term roster issue is at RT

 

[kerouac9]

Maui could end up being the cardinals anchor RT for a dozen years.

Not really. Not if you intend to keep PJJ.

There just isn’t really budget to have two max contract players at the same position. The likely scenario is you extend PJJ and can’t afford to exercise the fifth-year option on the Top 5 RT.

This is happening right now in Detroit.

 

[Chopper0080]

He could. Or he could stink. Or he could be just decent while we pass up on a Big John pass rusher, for instance. Sound familiar?

I like David Bailey...a lot.

That said, Mauigoa is going to be a good player. He has started 42 games in his college career at RT. Did not miss a start. Will be 20 years old when drafted. Has similar size to Penei Sewell and Tristan Wirfs who have both been successful NFL tackles. Is a 1st team All American as a Jr. Is comparable athletically to Sewell. His film is good. Very solid in the run game. Like most college OTs he needs to continue to refine his pass blocking but the fundamentals are there. The only knock on him is that, similar to Wirfs, people see a wider body who played RT and think OG which is kinda naive. I don't know what else people are really looking for other than him starting at LT vs RT his college career and he is not 6'7 with 35 inch arms.

 

[Chopper0080]

Not really. Not if you intend to keep PJJ.

There just isn’t really budget to have two max contract players at the same position. The likely scenario is you extend PJJ and can’t afford to exercise the fifth-year option on the Top 5 RT.

This is happening right now in Detroit.

It mostly depends on when you intend to pay your QB. Paris Johnson is 24/25 and will be due a new contract soon. If the Cardinals draft a QB this year, they have 4 or 5 years before that QB needs an extension. Sewell will require 5 years before a new contract. You might just have one year of overlap between Paris and Mauigoa with Paris needing another extension after that at approx the age of 30.

 

[Chopper0080]

I am of the mind that I will worry about money once the Cardinals actually find a QB worth paying. Until then, add talent.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Not really. Not if you intend to keep PJJ.

There just isn’t really budget to have two max contract players at the same position. The likely scenario is you extend PJJ and can’t afford to exercise the fifth-year option on the Top 5 RT.

This is happening right now in Detroit.

The Eagles were able to do it with Jordan Mailata and Lane Johnson

 

[kerouac9]

The Eagles were able to do it with Jordan Mailata and Lane Johnson

Mailata was a 7th round pick. His cap number is still less than $20 million per year.

The fifth year option puts a hard number on what a first rounder will get paid on a second contract. That’s why Linderbaum and Saquon basically moved even though their teams wanted them.

 

[House of Cards]

"Maui could end up being the cardinals anchor RT for a dozen years." Could is not good enough for the #3 overall pick. At #3 he needs to be a consensus "would".

"but I felt similar with PJJ in 2023 and that turned out ok." PJJ was #9 not #3 and you say it turned out okay? okay is not good enough for #3

So at #3---I say NO NO NO. some of you guys are saying that you are okay to draft a guy that "could" be or will be "okay"? Really, the only 2 players that are consensual Big John sure things (as much as anyone is a sure thing) is Downs and Love. I prefer to have a "sure thing" as opposed to a "could/okay" player and another later pick that MO will definitely get wrong.

 

[House of Cards]

Sorry PJJ was #6 which was not worth it---I am glad he is solid but not worth #6

 

[stephensaz]

Best case scenario there is a team that wants Love and wants to jump ahead of the Titans to get him. Would be nice if the team is in the late teens or early 20's, and we pick up a next year #1. That would give us ammunition to make a move in next year draft to get a QB, if they don't draft Simpson at whatever position they end up in the trade scenario. Cardinals are a years away from truly competing. They need focus on a strategy that shortens that timeframe. Takes luck and hitting on the right personnel though. Let's focus on the pouring the concrete foundation before we start picking out fancy light fixtures.