Draft Positioning

[Stout]

Agree.
I strongly advocated to move up for Sam Darnold some years back...I used to be against it.
But the odds say that two or three average first round picks won't affect your team as much as having the QB position locked down with the right guy.

We go get our QB and let the chips fall as they may....
Don't pass on the chance for a few Robinsons and Collins'




P.S.
My position might be completely different if we drafted like the Ravens of the early 2000's.
But we dont.

Man, I loved Darnold in the draft. Then I thought I had been proven wrong. But I was wrong to think that I had been wrong

Then again, Darnold would have probably been savage bad with the Cards, too.

 

[Stout]

Doesn't have to be a OT. Could also be a WR or other offensive players through a trade back. No QB will have sustained success here if the offense isn't improved around him. Let alone a green rookie thrown to the wolves.

With Kyler still on the roster it's difficult to predict FA. Without a team trading for Kyler, the 2026 FA period will be neutered for the Cards. Everything hinges on Kyler getting traded before his 2026 roster bonus kicks in.

Not to mention that RT is looking pretty slim in FA as we speak. It would be like needing a WR in last off seasons FA period.

Who knows? We might dump Kyler quickly and sign a vet QB to start next season.

 

[BACH]

Teams that end the season with the same record have the higher pick go to the team playing the softer schedule. Since the Cards faced an exceptionally hard schedule only maybe the Raiders and/or Giants would receive worse positioning due to strength of schedule. Everyone else is nowhere nearly that strong. Right now they are ranked 11th. Several teams ahead of them play each other so it’s possible the Cards move up a little.

Good site to get the right order but doesn’t show SOS.

2027 NFL Mock Draft | Tankathon

2027 NFL Mock Draft with live-updating draft order after every game. Team needs are factored into the player selections.

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It does show the SOS???

Tankathon | 2027 NFL Draft Order

2027 NFL Draft order tracker updated after every game. View traded picks in all seven rounds and a live updating Mock Draft after each game.

www.tankathon.com

 

[outcent13]

How do some of you PA guys feel about Allar?

 

[Stout]

How do some of you PA guys feel about Allar?

3rd rounder.

 

[cardncubfan]

Already answered. You are one of the very weird posters right now thinking you can ONLY attain a RT through the draft, and then ONLY in the 1st round, top 10. There are...no other ways to fix the position? Weird. You sound more like the Brownies than I do, sir.

True, you can always sign another Jonah Williams in FA.

 

[Stout]

True, you can always sign another Jonah Williams in FA.

What is the point of this post? You can also sign a serviceable RT in FA. So long as you have a competent GM...

 

[cardncubfan]

Who?

 

[Chopper0080]

Man, I loved Darnold in the draft. Then I thought I had been proven wrong. But I was wrong to think that I had been wrong

Then again, Darnold would have probably been savage bad with the Cards, too.

Darnold is another example of an inexperienced college QB coming into the NFL too soon. He only had 846 pass attempts in his college career. Financially it was the correct move to come out early, but it definitely hurt his career early. Jets didn't help either.

 

[MadCardDisease]

The Athletic Football Show discussed the best fits for the teams that would currently pick in the top 10.

The hosts both expect both Gannon and Ossenfort to be back, or at least Ossenfort; though they wouldn't be super surprised if that's not the case.

They recognize that the biggest question is what the Cardinals will do at QB, where there won't be a lot of options at #9, where they are currently slotted. Most likely a solution to the QB problem won't be found in this year's draft.

They felt "solid" (!) about the roster overall.

They raised the possibility of drafting an explosive RB, Jeremiah Love, to help whoever the QB is.

But they both agreed that Spencer Fano would be a perfect fit at RT, and that a pick late in the top 10 would be appropriate for taking a RT.

They strongly agreed that the roster is in a MUCH better place than when Ossenfort and Gannon took over. "The bones of a good team are here. They're 11th in Defensive DVOA. They've got talent on both sides of the ball. You'd like to see Marvin Harrison pick it up a bit. The receiver corps could be deeper." They raved about Walter Nolen. There are reasons for optimism that's muddied up by the QB situation.

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OMG it's like these guys read my mind. Bring in Spencer Fano! Skip the top QBs in the draft this year. There are no QBs worth moving up for in the upcoming draft and there won't be a QB worthy of drafting where they currently sit. Now is the time to add another piece to the offense for whoever the QBOTF is in 2027.

 

[DVontel]

There are no QBs worth moving up for in the upcoming draft

How you know the same won’t apply to 2027, though?

 

[MadCardDisease]

How you know the same won’t apply to 2027, though?

Most people are projecting a bunch of the younger QBs return to college football for 2026 instead of declaring for the Draft. Therefore there is a ton of hype currently around the 2027 class. If there is one thing that the Jets did right, it was to load up on 2027 first round picks. Now we all know that the Jets will probably screw up those picks but at least they were smart and loaded up on a draft that is predicted to be much deeper than 2026.

 

[DVontel]

Most people are projecting a bunch of the younger QBs return to college football for 2026 instead of declaring for the Draft. Therefore there is a ton of hype currently around the 2027 class. If there is one thing that the Jets did right, it was to load up on 2027 first round picks. Now we all know that the Jets will probably screw up those picks but at least they were smart and loaded up on a draft that is predicted to be much deeper than 2026.

The same thing happened with this upcoming class though. A lot of hype built around the 2026 class because all of the QBs like Nussmeier, Klubnik, Allar, & Arch returned only for all of them to regress. The same exact thing could happen to the 2027 class.

 

[MadCardDisease]

The same thing happened with this upcoming class though. A lot of hype built around the 2026 class because all of the QBs like Nussmeier, Klubnik, Allar, & Arch returned only for all of them to regress. The same exact thing could happen to the 2027 class.

Hmmm. From what I was hearing 2026 was always viewed as a weaker draft especially QB wise.

 

[DVontel]

Hmmm. From what I was hearing 2026 was always viewed as a weaker draft especially QB wise.

Now it is, lol.

Most assumed Arch was going to stay all of his years, but Nuss, Klubnik, & Allar had a lot hype coming into this season.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Now it is, lol.

No I'm talking from last year.

 

[Harry]

It does show the SOS???

Tankathon | 2027 NFL Draft Order

2027 NFL Draft order tracker updated after every game. View traded picks in all seven rounds and a live updating Mock Draft after each game.

www.tankathon.com

It does show the SOS???

Tankathon | 2027 NFL Draft Order

2027 NFL Draft order tracker updated after every game. View traded picks in all seven rounds and a live updating Mock Draft after each game.

www.tankathon.com

which column?

 

[Harry]

True, you can always sign another Jonah Williams in FA.

It looks like the Pack will let Rasheed Walker become a FA because of cap space. If the Cards could sign him and move Johnson back to the right (he wouldn’t like it) that would really set up the draft.

 

[Stout]

Hmmm. From what I was hearing 2026 was always viewed as a weaker draft especially QB wise.

Not at all! This was being hyped as possibly the best QB draft ever, or only behind '83. That was before the season. That's why I hate the "Let's suck longer and we'll get our QB in TWO drafts from now!" argument.

 

[DVontel]

No I'm talking from last year.

It was never viewed as a weak draft when it came to the QBs before this season.

 

[MadCardDisease]

It was never viewed as a weak draft when it came to the QBs before this season.

Only among people who thought that Arch Manning would come out early after 1 year of starting. Which people who know history, know that no Manning has entered the draft after one year as a starter and in fact all three Mannings spent 4 years in college. Even before the 2025 season started, his grandfather Archie said he would be shocked if Arch wasn't back at Texas in 2026.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Sam Leavitt an elite QB prospect at Arizona State, ESPN says

Arizona State's Sam Leavitt was highlighted as one of four elite quarterback prospects in the 2026 NFL Draft by ESPN.

arizonasports.com

Expectations were wild about this year - reality has hit a lot of these guys hard. Notice at this point in August, the consensus #1 QB isn't even listed in this top 4! It'll be really interesting to see how the QB situation shapes up in the draft, so much unknown at this point.

 

[BACH]

Not at all! This was being hyped as possibly the best QB draft ever, or only behind '83. That was before the season. That's why I hate the "Let's suck longer and we'll get our QB in TWO drafts from now!" argument.

2027 draft is hyped like this, not the 2026. Heard a scout saying that early evaluations rank the 2027 as the best since 2004.

 

[BACH]

Sam Leavitt an elite QB prospect at Arizona State, ESPN says

Arizona State's Sam Leavitt was highlighted as one of four elite quarterback prospects in the 2026 NFL Draft by ESPN.

arizonasports.com

Expectations were wild about this year - reality has hit a lot of these guys hard. Notice at this point in August, the consensus #1 QB isn't even listed in this top 4! It'll be really interesting to see how the QB situation shapes up in the draft, so much unknown at this point.

This draft class has been underwhelming. Loads of injuries and very disappointing play from the rest of the class.

TE Warren is arguably the best rookie as the only player playing at a high level without missing time. Bucs’ 3rd round CB comes after.

 

[Stout]

2027 draft is hyped like this, not the 2026. Heard a scout saying that early evaluations rank the 2027 as the best since 2004.

You're talking IS, not WAS. Early in 2025, the 2026 QB draft pool was absolutely hyped to the max.