Dockett's latest Twitter

[earthsci]

Who cares? Just pay him.

Once he gets the new contract he will be the first guy to say he bleeds Cardinal red.

IDK. He got a new contract and was talking about another new one before his first year into the redone contract was over. IMO we should give Q a new contract. He kept his mouth shut this year. Pay him. You don't think that won't send DD a message?

 

[LittleDavis]

IDK. He got a new contract and was talking about another new one before his first year into the redone contract was over. IMO we should give Q a new contract. He kept his mouth shut this year. Pay him. You don't think that won't send DD a message?

What message? Play for us for two more years and then get a new contract elsewhere. He is the heart and soul of our defensive front. We can't get a serviceable NT and we should let this guy walk. I don't think so. I have accepted salaries and due to performance have demanded more money and got it. He deserves a raise and he should get it.

 

[earthsci]

What message? Play for us for two more years and then get a new contract elsewhere. He is the heart and soul of our defensive front. We can't get a serviceable NT and we should let this guy walk. I don't think so. I have accepted salaries and due to performance have demanded more money and got it. He deserves a raise and he should get it.

The message is ****. Like Fitz said. You know that the Cardinals are whole lot less likely to renegotiate if he's running off at the mouth. I know it. Dockett knows it. He deserves a raise but this isn't even close to the right way to go about it with the Cardinals. That makes him an idiot who is a really good football player.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

All of this Dockett stuff is none sense. Does everybody see why he is upset? He is a 28 year old in the PRIME of his career. Its pretty obvious we will not be giving him a new contract, probably ever. This one will run out (hell be 30), he will be franchised tagged maybe for two years and at the age of 32 hell go to a new team on his own power. It's his own fault he's in this situation. Everyone worried about losing him is getting worked up over nothing.

 

[earthsci]

Its pretty obvious we will not be giving him a new contract, probably ever.

Why is it obvious? They renegotiated his contract before his rookie contract was up and paid him, at the time, more than a lot of people felt that he was worth.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

Why is it obvious? They renegotiated his contract before his rookie contract was up and paid him, at the time, more than a lot of people felt that he was worth.

The organization did an awesome thing when they renegotiated the first time. There was a HUGE upside for the Cards. If he became the player he was today then they came out HUGE because he wasn't making much. Now he is in the prime of his career and we can have him for 4 more years (2 on the franchise tag) and let him leave at 32 years old (past his prime). We got him for his next couple of BEST years and then let him leave. Ur wanting to pay a guy who could be on the downside of his career in a couple years. Not worth it.

 

[Cards_Campos]

CHris johnson asks "WHat will it take to get Dockett in a Titans uniform?" Cards answer "CHris Johnson"

 

[LittleDavis]

The organization did an awesome thing when they renegotiated the first time. There was a HUGE upside for the Cards. If he became the player he was today then they came out HUGE because he wasn't making much. Now he is in the prime of his career and we can have him for 4 more years (2 on the franchise tag) and let him leave at 32 years old (past his prime). We got him for his next couple of BEST years and then let him leave. Ur wanting to pay a guy who could be on the downside of his career in a couple years. Not worth it.

I'll take that. From a management/ownership side you are correct.

 

[100%CardsFan]

I say keep him under contract for his 2 years that HE SIGNED .. Then franchise for 2 or 3 years then let him go play with the 9ers or Titans... at age 33. He doesnt know how to play the game..

 

[MoeIsBetter]

I'll take that. From a management/ownership side you are correct.

Thank you. I just don't understand how we can love the "Cardinals" but be willing to say their being cheap when they gambled on him in the first place. Their gamble paid off, we hit the lottery getting a pro bowler all through his prime and everyone mad because were not paying him. I just think people forget we can franchise tag him. He wants paid like a top five player? Well do that...for two years on the franchise tag before he's losing his "edge".

 

[earthsci]

Ur wanting to pay a guy who could be on the downside of his career in a couple years. Not worth it.

I'm not really saying that I for or against him be renegotiated am I? My only point - if he wants the Cardinals to renegotiate he needs to ****, 'cause we know that it ain't happening if he doesn't.

 

[ajcardfan]

Whisenhunt complicated things when he said Dockett should get a new contract because "that's what good teams do." How in the world do you expect a player to not want a new deal when his own head coach says he deserves one?

 

[MoeIsBetter]

I'm not really saying that I for or against him be renegotiated am I? My only point - if he wants the Cardinals to renegotiate he needs to ****, 'cause we know that it ain't happening if he doesn't.

Oh I completely agree with you. I don't think he'll ever re-sign though. The Cardinals will never deal out Haynesworth money, especially to a guy they don't have too. If he was a free agent this year, then yeah you pay him huge. But he was greedy early in his career and is now suffering (although its not suffering) for it.

 

[CardLogic]

I say the Cardinals should make him a decent, but not break the bank offer. The Cardinals look better for having given him a "fair' offer. Takes the pressure off of the team and puts it back on Nine-0. Dockett doesn't sign it anyway; then it becomes his mistake for not taking the opportunity when he had the offer. Then in two years, franchise tag him as others suggested.

The team is holding all the CARDS!

 

[MoeIsBetter]

I say the Cardinals should make him a decent, but not break the bank offer. The Cardinals look better for having given him a "fair' offer. Takes the pressure off of the team and puts it back on Nine-0. Dockett doesn't sign it anyway; then it becomes his mistake for not taking the opportunity when he had the offer. Then in two years, franchise tag him as others suggested.

The team is holding all the CARDS!

See I completely disagree. I think the team should come out and say that when players talk about playing for division rivals if we don't resign him then they are the last in line. Dockett is like a puppy who thinks he can get away with anything. The Cards need to come out and put him in his place. Good player but when you start trashing the organization and talk about playing for divisional rivals you can suck it. By letting his contract run out and then franchising him for 2 years ur REALLY screwing him. Maybe by thinking that could happen hell shut his mouth.

 

[Duckjake]

The message is ****. Like Fitz said. You know that the Cardinals are whole lot less likely to renegotiate if he's running off at the mouth. I know it. Dockett knows it. He deserves a raise but this isn't even close to the right way to go about it with the Cardinals. That makes him an idiot who is a really good football player.

But then you look at Dansby who has mentioned several times that he wants to try for the big payday in free agency and the Cards have paid him over $17 million the last two years. Compare that to Wilson at around $18.5 million guaranteed with a 5 year contract and you wonder if keeping your mouth shut really makes any difference.

It's easy for Fitzgerald to talk. He had all the leverage in negotiations with the Cardinals.

Regardless, it is irrelevant what Dockett says because he is locked up for two more years. Personally I'm excited that we actually have guys like Darnell. Wish we had more like him. Colorful and productive as opposed to the old days when we had guys who were bland and non-productive.

 

[ajcardfan]

See I completely disagree. I think the team should come out and say that when players talk about playing for division rivals if we don't resign him then they are the last in line. Dockett is like a puppy who thinks he can get away with anything. The Cards need to come out and put him in his place. Good player but when you start trashing the organization and talk about playing for divisional rivals you can suck it. By letting his contract run out and then franchising him for 2 years ur REALLY screwing him. Maybe by thinking that could happen hell shut his mouth.

Other than annoying some people, what harm has he really done?

If you "really screw him" he probably won't play as hard and put his body on the line as much.

 

[Duckjake]

The message is ****. Like Fitz said. You know that the Cardinals are whole lot less likely to renegotiate if he's running off at the mouth. I know it. Dockett knows it. He deserves a raise but this isn't even close to the right way to go about it with the Cardinals. That makes him an idiot who is a really good football player.

But then you look at Dansby who has mentioned several times that he wants to try for the big payday in free agency and the Cards have paid him over $17 million the last two years. Compare that to Wilson at around $18.5 million guaranteed with a 5 year contract and you wonder if keeping your mouth shut really makes any difference.

It's easy for Fitzgerald to talk. He had all the leverage in negotiations with the Cardinals.

Regardless, it is irrelevant what Dockett says because he is locked up for two more years. Personally I'm excited that we actually have guys like Darnell. Wish we had more like him. Colorful and productive as opposed to the old days when we had guys who were bland and non-productive.

Isn't it great that we have a real NFL team instead of a Dallas Cowboy's farm club?

 

[MoeIsBetter]

Other than annoying some people, what harm has he really done?

If you "really screw him" he probably won't play as hard and put his body on the line as much.

He has too. Next year is a contract year. He WANTS to be resigned. If he plays like crap then the next year he wont get paid AGAIN if we let him walk. If we franchise him, same thing. He has to play hard or nobody will pay him.

 

[TheHopToad]

I'm totally ignorant on the subject, but is it certain that the franchise tag process is going to remain as-is after next year when/if a new CBA is in place? I haven't heard whether or not the owners or players have an issue with it.

If so, then yes let him play it out then tag him. Otherwise, they may want to renegotiate NEXT year when he only has a year left on the current deal.

 

[TJ]

This is attempted leverage for a contract. Threatening to leave for a division rivalry stinks of deception and Rosenhaus manipulation. Dockett as a player is fantastic. As a human being he is obnoxious.

Take Fitz and AW's advice and shut the hell up

 

[CardLogic]

See I completely disagree. I think the team should come out and say that when players talk about playing for division rivals if we don't resign him then they are the last in line. Dockett is like a puppy who thinks he can get away with anything. The Cards need to come out and put him in his place. Good player but when you start trashing the organization and talk about playing for divisional rivals you can suck it. By letting his contract run out and then franchising him for 2 years ur REALLY screwing him. Maybe by thinking that could happen hell shut his mouth.

And why is it that the Cardinals objective should be to screw a player that has been nothing but productive on the field for them?

I don't like Dockett tweeting and moaning anymore than every other Cardinals fan. But as long as he performs on the field I would rather have the organization treat him fairly. Agree with him or not, why be punitive just because the guy is speaking his mind? If Dockett chooses not to sign a reasonable offer then it's the player screwing himself, not the team as "bad guy" when they legally retain their rights via contract and CBA.

 

[MoeIsBetter]

And why is it that the Cardinals objective should be to screw a player that has been nothing but productive on the field for them?

I don't like Dockett tweeting and moaning anymore than every other Cardinals fan. But as long as he performs on the field I would rather have the organization treat him fairly. Agree with him or not, why be punitive just because the guy is speaking his mind? If Dockett chooses not to sign a reasonable offer then it's the player screwing himself, not the team as "bad guy" when they legally retain their rights via contract and CBA.

Wait we already treated him fairly. We gave him alot of money and most of us said he didn't deserve it. Has he out performed it? Absolutely. Did he want his chunk of change up front? Absolutely. It's his own fault and now he wants to gripe and complain. The front office is in a PERFECT situation to ride out his contract, pay him top 5 money for two years, and let him go at 32 when he should be on the decline. Ur saying don't do that just so that Cards can pay a guy who hasn't said a nice thing about our organazation in 2 years?

EDIT: And if we did resign to say a 5-6 year deal we could be paying 13 mill to a guy who isn't performing at that level. It's to risky. Doing it my way gives you 4 years to find a replacement and 3 of those years to let him walk. The prime of his career is in the Cardinals hands and I couldn't be happier.

 

[Duckjake]

This is attempted leverage for a contract. Threatening to leave for a division rivalry stinks of deception and Rosenhaus manipulation. Dockett as a player is fantastic. As a human being he is obnoxious.

Take Fitz and AW's advice and shut the hell up

Sounds really familiar. Oh yeah, it was Kurt Warner who went to San Francisco for a free agency visit last year wasn't it. Is Rosenhaus Warner's agent?

 

[ajcardfan]

Wait we already treated him fairly. We gave him alot of money and most of us said he didn't deserve it. Has he out performed it? Absolutely. Did he want his chunk of change up front? Absolutely. It's his own fault and now he wants to gripe and complain. The front office is in a PERFECT situation to ride out his contract, pay him top 5 money for two years, and let him go at 32 when he should be on the decline. Ur saying don't do that just so that Cards can pay a guy who hasn't said a nice thing about our organazation in 2 years?

EDIT: And if we did resign to say a 5-6 year deal we could be paying 13 mill to a guy who isn't performing at that level. It's to risky. Doing it my way gives you 4 years to find a replacement and 3 of those years to let him walk. The prime of his career is in the Cardinals hands and I couldn't be happier.

Too bad for you his head coach came out and supported his desire for a new contract. That must be frustrating.