Dline question

Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by Goldfield, Apr 2, 2020.

  1. Goldfield

    Goldfield Formally known as BEERZ

    Posts:
    9,503
    Likes Received:
    464
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2002
    Location:
    ASFN
    If we drafted Brown, would Brown and Phillips play outside, with Peters inside at NT?

    Yes please...
     
  2. Solar7

    Solar7 Also Skeptical

    Age:
    33
    Posts:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    6,094
    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    I would think so, although there was the one thread earlier that had Phillips at NT. At that size, I think all three would be interchangeable. It sounds fantastic to have that kind of size up front in this division.
     
    vince56, CardinalCovfefe and Holian like this.
  3. AZman5103

    AZman5103 Registered

    Age:
    35
    Posts:
    530
    Likes Received:
    559
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2019
    Location:
    Idaho
    That would be my guess, but at that point they would be pretty interchangeable along the line. All of those guys are capable of playing NT or DE in a 3/4.

    I think adding Phillips to Peters is already going to have a big impact on the defense as a whole...and adding Brown or even Kinlaw could increase it that much more. I am a big Zach Allen fan, so I'm hoping that he is going to become a long term starter...but you need a stable of good defensive linemand and Peters is only under contract 1 more year and wont play forever.

    Adding Brown would give us IMO an above average NFL D-Lineman at the very least. I do not think he is going to be Aaron Donald or Chris Jones, but I don't think he is going to be a bust either. In terms of impacting a game from the defensive side of the ball, I go Young, Simmons, Okudah, and Brown....so as long as we don't pass on one of those three I would be fine with taking him as a building block for the future.
     
    GatorAZ, Syracusecards and Holian like this.
  4. Goldfield

    Goldfield Formally known as BEERZ

    Posts:
    9,503
    Likes Received:
    464
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2002
    Location:
    ASFN
    It would allow us to bring Zack Allen off the bench. Good starters with depth
     
    Holian and Solar7 like this.
  5. Solar7

    Solar7 Also Skeptical

    Age:
    33
    Posts:
    7,914
    Likes Received:
    6,094
    Joined:
    May 18, 2002
    Location:
    Las Vegas, NV
    Yeah, it'd be great to take someone a little smaller and have him in on passing downs, bringing what is said to be a really high motor. 2021 could see Allen-Brown-Phillips if Peters moves on, too.
     
    Goldfield likes this.
  6. GatorAZ

    GatorAZ Formerly known as GatorHater

    Posts:
    14,866
    Likes Received:
    5,419
    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2011
    Location:
    The Giant Toaster
    I think Brown is a natural NT but we can get creative. Phillips is a wild card. I do like the idea of Peters being fresher with less reps/responsibility should we draft Brown.
     
    CardinalCovfefe likes this.
  7. CardinalCovfefe

    CardinalCovfefe Registered

    Age:
    65
    Posts:
    113
    Likes Received:
    90
    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2020
    Location:
    Portland
    Brown is ranked so highly because he is so strong and so disruptive. It's not always about the sack count. Bucky Brooks says Brown reminds him of how strong and disruptive Reggie White was (and he played with White). If Brown could be 9/10ths of a Reggie SOMEDAY, it would suck to pass him up.
     
    Holian likes this.
  8. Goldfield

    Goldfield Formally known as BEERZ

    Posts:
    9,503
    Likes Received:
    464
    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2002
    Location:
    ASFN
    Brown is my first pick if available. Then Wills
     
    CardinalCovfefe and Holian like this.
  9. Cardsfaninlouky

    Cardsfaninlouky Registered

    Age:
    50
    Posts:
    2,025
    Likes Received:
    1,681
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2019
    Location:
    Louisville
    I think Peters would be moved to the right DE spot but they may all be interchangeable?
     
  10. BritCard

    BritCard Registered

    Age:
    43
    Posts:
    1,126
    Likes Received:
    1,137
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2020
    Location:
    UK
    Brown played most of his snaps at Auburn as a Nose tackle. It's far from automatic that he's going to be some great pass rushing 3 tech.

    Considering he's never topped 4.5 sacks and his poor combine it's much more likely Brown is a good run stuffing DT in the league.

    I think Kinlaw has more upside as a pass rusher.
     
    TheCardFan likes this.
  11. Chopper0080

    Chopper0080 Skeptical

    Posts:
    16,249
    Likes Received:
    7,995
    Joined:
    May 15, 2002
    Location:
    Colorado
    and I would disagree. 31.5 tackles for loss to go with 11.5 sacks over the past years vs 17 and 10 for Kinlaw would be how I support that disagreement. Also, one dude has been the dude that teams scheme against for two full off-seasons while the other has not.
     
    bg7brd and Goldfield like this.
  12. BritCard

    BritCard Registered

    Age:
    43
    Posts:
    1,126
    Likes Received:
    1,137
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2020
    Location:
    UK
    Kinlaw was the only talent on his D line. He got double and triple teams all the time which is why his stats aren't the same. Brown never had that.

     
  13. Chopper0080

    Chopper0080 Skeptical

    Posts:
    16,249
    Likes Received:
    7,995
    Joined:
    May 15, 2002
    Location:
    Colorado
    There are similar vids on this board with Derrick Brown facing the same thing. Facts are that Brown has produced significantly more negative plays than Kinlaw over the past three season.
     
  14. Cuozzo

    Cuozzo Trombonist in Roger Goodell's Wedding Rcpt.

    Age:
    57
    Posts:
    3,431
    Likes Received:
    914
    Joined:
    May 13, 2002
    Location:
    MN for now.
    This might be an Unpopular Opinion, but I think that DL might be a more pressing need for the Cardinals than OL is.

    I'm also not sold on any of the defensive FAs that were signed either...time will tell, I suppose.
     
    Cardiac and Goldfield like this.

Share This Page