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I don't know.

To me the key is getting valuable players out of the draft wherever they come from. Do 49er fans care that Brock Purdy was Mr Irrelevant and replaced a guy who the Niners used 3 1st round picks to draft? Or are they happy that they ended up with a franchise QB between the two?
Are we happy that we routinely blow high draft picks because our GM sucks? You're comparing us to the Whiners. That's hilarious, considering our respective GMs.
 

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Are we happy that we routinely blow high draft picks because our GM sucks? You're comparing us to the Whiners. That's hilarious, considering our respective GMs.
You have to hit on most of your 1st rounders because that is where you find 90% of your elite players in the NFL.

After that the draft is a bit of a crap shoot and you need to find starters wherever they come from. At the end of the day it doesn't matter where a player was drafted if they are a solid contributor to the team. What matters is that you draft enough of those guys, which ever round they come from, to field a winner.

No one really cares that Clyde Edwards-Helaire was a 1st round bust RB for the Chiefs because they ended up finding Isiah Pacheco in the 7th round to be the starter instead. Pacheco was the starting running back for 2 SB wins and one SB loss. No one cares that 1st rounder CEH couldn't beat out 7th round Pacheco because it doesn't matter where you find players that help you win games.
 

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No one really cares that Clyde Edwards-Helaire was a 1st round bust RB for the Chiefs because they ended up finding Isiah Pacheco in the 7th round to be the starter instead
You keep positing this nonsense but people cared very much that CEH was a flop and Pacheco was just a replacement level player.
 

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You have to hit on most of your 1st rounders because that is where you find 90% of your elite players in the NFL.

After that the draft is a bit of a crap shoot and you need to find starters wherever they come from. At the end of the day it doesn't matter where a player was drafted if they are a solid contributor to the team. What matters is that you draft enough of those guys, which ever round they come from, to field a winner.

No one really cares that Clyde Edwards-Helaire was a 1st round bust RB for the Chiefs because they ended up finding Isiah Pacheco in the 7th round to be the starter instead. Pacheco was the starting running back for 2 SB wins and one SB loss. No one cares that 1st rounder CEH couldn't beat out 7th round Pacheco because it doesn't matter where you find players that help you win games.
The point here is missing high on players ad nauseum. Has Monti found a gem that will be good, or is it just that Melton is so bad he can't beat him out? We don't have any idea yet.
 

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I think the bigger point is that Melton stinks AND the 5th rounder who is beating him out hasn’t really been impressive either.

Merely beating out Melton doesn’t make our 5th rounder impressive if he’s still not good either. It just means we still have a hole at CB.
 

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I think the bigger point is that Melton stinks AND the 5th rounder who is beating him out hasn’t really been impressive either.

Merely beating out Melton doesn’t make our 5th rounder impressive if he’s still not good either. It just means we still have a hole at CB.
TBF the fifth rounder had very good coverage stats last season and could be okay.
 

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I think the bigger point is that Melton stinks AND the 5th rounder who is beating him out hasn’t really been impressive either.

Merely beating out Melton doesn’t make our 5th rounder impressive if he’s still not good either. It just means we still have a hole at CB.

This is very true.

Burke is heading into his 2nd year and we still don't know what he will eventually turn into. Melton is heading into year 3 and needs to show that he deserves to be an everyday starter. If he can't show that this season then the he will probably never amount to much.

I typically believe that by the end of year 3 you should have a good idea if a player has it or not. That is why I'm very concerned about BJ Ojalari entering year 4 and is still showing zero improvement.
 

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Well poo,
DC retained after a miserable performance, back up QB retained for 15 mill more after a brilliant performance and 11 losses.
HC fired
QB cut costing 57 mill for no legitimate reason I can tell, emotion of fans, toxic media? Seems Jacoby proved it wasn’t the qb that was the problem!
THE PROBLEM WITH THE OFFENSE was that the rbs got hurt early, and the 3rd stringer show boated the titan game away, it was a run first offense. Kyler was adapting too.
Guess I blame Monti - hired and fired Gannon - see if he can clean up this mess, in the end only fans and bidwills here forever, now Larry!
 
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