Crud. Herbert staying for Senior Year

[Weenus O'Baggins]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/potent...t-returning-senior-year-oregon-182427857.html

So the top rated QB will not be entering the draft.

We really picked a bad year to end up #1

 

[RON_IN_OC]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/potent...t-returning-senior-year-oregon-182427857.html

So the top rated QB will not be entering the draft.

We really picked a bad year to end up #1

Why? Cards aren't drafting a QB...and now QB needy teams will have less to pick from...If you want to trade down, it's supply and demand. Demand for a QB should be high and the supply just dropped.

 

[Finito]

He wasn't a top 5 pick anyway.

 

[Dan H]

Why? Cards aren't drafting a QB...and now QB needy teams will have less to pick from...If you want to trade down, it's supply and demand. Demand for a QB should be high and the supply just dropped.

Yup. The hope now is there's only really one big-time QB and a two or three teams in the top-10 fall in love with him, and then it's "show me the draft picks."

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Why? Cards aren't drafting a QB...and now QB needy teams will have less to pick from...If you want to trade down, it's supply and demand. Demand for a QB should be high and the supply just dropped.

I am hoping we can trade down a few spots and still get one of the 5 impact defenders while acquiring more picks for the offense.

That won't happen unless there are top QBs available. Only two QBs currently warrant a first round grade. It doesn't matter how limited the supply is if none of them are projected to be impact players.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

He wasn't a top 5 pick anyway.

You are correct but he was one that I thought might ride a hype train up to the top.

My concern is we are sitting at the top of a 2013 draft where Geno Smith went #16 and not another QB was drafted round 1.

 

[DVontel]

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/potent...t-returning-senior-year-oregon-182427857.html

So the top rated QB will not be entering the draft.

We really picked a bad year to end up #1

If you’re just basing it off of trading the pick, then yea.

Otherwise, we got really lucky this year to be #1 with bonafide blue chippers such as Bosa, Quinnen, & Oliver right in our hands.

 

[GatorAZ]

More incentive for teams to trade up for Haskins.

 

[Finito]

You are correct but he was one that I thought might ride a hype train up to the top.

My concern is we are sitting at the top of a 2013 draft where Geno Smith went #16 and not another QB was drafted round 1.

That's the worst draft I've ever seen. Ansah, Jordan, Mingo were all considered upside projects. Fischer Joekel and Lane Johnson were not blue chip guys. The two safest picks in the top ten were supposed to be Jonathon Cooper and Chance Warmack.

That draft didn't have anyone like Bosa, Q Williams or Oliver. Hell that draft didn't have anyone like Greedy Williams or Devon White

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

That's the worst draft I've ever seen. Ansah, Jordan, Mingo were all considered upside projects. Fischer Joekel and Lane Johnson were not blue chip guys. The two safest picks in the top ten were supposed to be Jonathon Cooper and Chance Warmack.

That draft didn't have anyone like Bosa, Q Williams or Oliver. Hell that draft didn't have anyone like Greedy Williams or Devon White

Yes that is a draft where you wouldn't want to trade back. I love the top of this draft and want to stay there AND get some extra assets.

I am communicating poorly so I will try to better explain the point of this post.


With so many blue chip prospects at the top of the draft, my hope is that there is a high rising QB that will allow us to trade back slightly and still get one of the top 5 defenders.

My concern is that with no real top QB in this draft, that the talent difference will discourage people from trading all the way up to 1.

 

[az jam]

I think we have a better chance of teams trading up on day 2 to get our first pick in round 2. Of course you won't get the boatload that you would for the first overall pick but could get a lower 2nd, 3rd and maybe 5th rounder. We have lots of holes and the more draft picks the better.

 

[gmabel830]

You are correct but he was one that I thought might ride a hype train up to the top.

My concern is we are sitting at the top of a 2013 draft where Geno Smith went #16 and not another QB was drafted round 1.

I made a comment about this draft reminding me of 2013 a week or two ago (with d-line replacing all the o-line who went at top of that draft, lack of big time QB and lack of skill position players at the top)... I am right there with you on this.

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[Weenus O'Baggins]

Here is an article that highlights exactly what I am talking about

https://www.yahoo.com/sports/justin...-2019-qb-draft-class-will-thin-184603110.html

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

I can't figure out why the guy that was basically the clear top option at QB is staying in school. It reminds me of Leinart doing it.

Would rather be the man on campus than the man in the NFL. Another year of the easy life.

 

[cardncubfan]

I can't figure out why the guy that was basically the clear top option at QB is staying in school. It reminds me of Leinart doing it.

Would rather be the man on campus than the man in the NFL. Another year of the easy life.

I read where his little brother will be playing & he wanted to play with him on the same team.

 

[Garthshort]

Works out perfectly, since next year (2019) will prove we still need a QB, and we'll be able to fill many of our many 'holes'.

 

[DVontel]

Works out perfectly, since next year (2019) will prove we still need a QB, and we'll be able to fill many of our many 'holes'.

Boy you going to continue to beat this horse to death in every topic huh?

 

[gimpy]

Somewhere on here yes, someone made the comment that he had a younger brother that would be a freshman next year and that he wanted to play with him. Don't know if that's true or not.

 

[NJCardFan]

That's the worst draft I've ever seen. Ansah, Jordan, Mingo were all considered upside projects. Fischer Joekel and Lane Johnson were not blue chip guys. The two safest picks in the top ten were supposed to be Jonathon Cooper and Chance Warmack.

Funny how things work out. Fischer and Johnson are beast linemen while Cooper is on his 6th team and Warmack is a backup in Philly.

 

[Russ Smith]

I can't figure out why the guy that was basically the clear top option at QB is staying in school. It reminds me of Leinart doing it.

Would rather be the man on campus than the man in the NFL. Another year of the easy life.

Just guessing but maybe he had reason to believe that even if he was the top rated QB, he wasn't guaranteed to go top X overall and thinks if he comes back to school he will next year? Even that article you posted it said in there NFL teams were only lukewarm on him, he was the top rated guy in what's seen as a mediocre draft class for QB's. Sometimes it doesn't matter, teams are desperate for a QB and reach, and maybe that would have happened, or maybe he had enough feedback to believe it wasn't going to happen and he'd be better off playing another year at Oregon and improving his stock.

I guess we'll find out. My general take is if you're guaranteed to go in the top X(and you determine what X is) you should go. My guess is he probably would have so he probably should have gone.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

I read where his little brother will be playing & he wanted to play with him on the same team.

That makes sense. Money can't buy time with the family

 

[Finito]

Funny how things work out. Fischer and Johnson are beast linemen while Cooper is on his 6th team and Warmack is a backup in Philly.

Warmack is the best guard I've ever seen. He was the best lineman on the best offensive line in the history of college football.

It took Fischer and Johnson years to be good aswell. The college game has changed so much that offensive lineman are now the biggest gamble

 

[Adrian]

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[AZCrazy]

The Giants will need our pick in the worst way, since Herbert isn't going to fall to them now. They can't wheel Eli out there again in that market. Only choice we need to make is whether we are willing to go down to spot 6 or 7.

 

[Harry]

The classic Matt Leinart mistake. Haskins is going to blow up in post season evaluations. Someone will want to make that move. I still think Lock is the surest choice but Haskins is exciting.