Crazy trade idea??????????

[Cbus cardsfan]

Let's say the Cards sign and trade for Whitehurst, then bring in a Bulger or Anderson. How about trading Leinart and re-uniting him with Carrol in Seattle? Let's say we could get Seattle's 2nd, would you do this? I probably wouldn't,but it's not out the realm of possibility. I'm a Leinart fan but, like Whitehurst, we really don't know how he is going to play. There's a little more playing history with ML but not enough to make any judgements. Seattle doesn't have a 3rd and i wouldn't deal ML for 4th, but that would be more likely what Seattle offers. But Petey may get desperate and give up a 2nd.

 

[WildBB]

Let's say the Cards sign and trade for Whitehurst, then bring in a Bulger or Anderson. How about trading Leinart and re-uniting him with Carrol in Seattle? Let's say we could get Seattle's 2nd, would you do this? I probably wouldn't,but it's not out the realm of possibility. I'm a Leinart fan but, like Whitehurst, we really don't know how he is going to play. There's a little more playing history with ML but not enough to make any judgements. Seattle doesn't have a 3rd and i wouldn't deal ML for 4th, but that would be more likely what Seattle offers. But Petey may get desperate and give up a 2nd.

So, why do you like Whitehurst?

 

[WarnerHOF]

A 1st and I'd do it. I honestly would hate it if Leinart became elite and we became his whipping boy for the next 10 years for only a 2nd round pick...

 

[Chopper0080]

Let's say the Cards sign and trade for Whitehurst, then bring in a Bulger or Anderson. How about trading Leinart and re-uniting him with Carrol in Seattle? Let's say we could get Seattle's 2nd, would you do this? I probably wouldn't,but it's not out the realm of possibility. I'm a Leinart fan but, like Whitehurst, we really don't know how he is going to play. There's a little more playing history with ML but not enough to make any judgements. Seattle doesn't have a 3rd and i wouldn't deal ML for 4th, but that would be more likely what Seattle offers. But Petey may get desperate and give up a 2nd.

No. Anderson has had one good year, Whitehurst is a complete unknown, and neither knows our system or has experience with our receivers. Creative, but ultimately puts us in a worse spot in 2010.

 

[TJ]

No. Anderson has had one good year, Whitehurst is a complete unknown, and neither knows our system or has experience with our receivers. Creative, but ultimately puts us in a worse spot in 2010.

This but Anderson did have two good receivers (Winslow and Edwards)

Plus, trades rarely occur within the division especially at the quarterback position

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

So, why do you like Whitehurst?

I didn't say I did. I said, like Leinart, we really have no idea how good he is going to be. At this point, you have to consider both kind of a crapshoot until they play, with Leinart having the edge because he has played in and knows the system. However, getting a high 2nd rounder and having another plan, wouldn't be a terrible thing.

 

[sportznutt]

The Cards are confident in Leinart.

 

[WildBB]

I didn't say I did. I said, like Leinart, we really have no idea how good he is going to be. At this point, you have to consider both kind of a crapshoot until they play, with Leinart having the edge because he has played in and knows the system. However, getting a high 2nd rounder and having another plan, wouldn't be a terrible thing.

Ahhh...I must have misunderstood. I thought you were going to hand the starters job to Whitehurst...and wanted to know what you saw.

 

[TJ]

I didn't say I did. I said, like Leinart, we really have no idea how good he is going to be. At this point, you have to consider both kind of a crapshoot until they play, with Leinart having the edge because he has played in and knows the system. However, getting a high 2nd rounder and having another plan, wouldn't be a terrible thing.

Cbus Im confused. Earlier in the offseason, you were one of Matt's biggest advocates. Now you are proposing a trade for him to a division rival?

Help me out bro

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Cbus Im confused. Earlier in the offseason, you were one of Matt's biggest advocates. Now you are proposing a trade for him to a division rival?

Help me out bro

I like Leinart and THINK he's going to be good. I'd be very happy to see him as the Cards QB. But,i'm kind of using the "if Whiz thinks Whitehurst can be as good" thinking that they may as well get something for him. But, i'm not advocating this trade. Just throwing it out there.

 

[CtCardinals78]

Let's say the Cards sign and trade for Whitehurst, then bring in a Bulger or Anderson. How about trading Leinart and re-uniting him with Carrol in Seattle? Let's say we could get Seattle's 2nd, would you do this? I probably wouldn't,but it's not out the realm of possibility. I'm a Leinart fan but, like Whitehurst, we really don't know how he is going to play. There's a little more playing history with ML but not enough to make any judgements. Seattle doesn't have a 3rd and i wouldn't deal ML for 4th, but that would be more likely what Seattle offers. But Petey may get desperate and give up a 2nd.

No. I wouldn't trade a third string special teams player to a division rival, that's the crap that comes back to bite you. If I were a GM and I knew that the player wasn't coming back and it was the last year in his contract then I'd trade him.

I believe ML will end up a Seahawk one way or another though. I think he had too much pressure put on him from the get go and performed well initially then didn't perform as well due to a lack of preperation. Leinart catches a TON of crap from this fan base. Some of it is legit, but most is not. I feel like he was never given a real shot to show what he's capable of doing. Warners success is going to make it that much harder for him.

When he came to AZ he was billed as the savior and now after Warner's success everything he does will be measured against KW's accomplishments. That pressure along with some "fans" rooting for him to fail, other questioning everything he does and Pete Carroll as the HC of a division rival could sway ML to leave if he ever becomes a FA as a Cardinal.

I'm on board and want to see Leinart succeed and do well as a Card but I would not trade him unless I knew he was not coming back before FA. We all saw what Carroll and Leinart can do when they work together and as a Card fan I would not want to see that twice a year.

 

[HoodieBets]

The Cards are confident in Leinart.

I think you forgot the winkey face and sarcasm emoticons

 

[Shane]

The Cards are confident in Leinart.

I believe attempting to trade for White says otherwise. JMO!

 

[Buckybird]

I believe attempting to trade for White says otherwise. JMO!

i agree, whitehurst sorry shane

Giving up a possible #3 for a guy that has never thrown an NFL pass isn't a good sign for #7. I still think this trade is made for 2011 because unless Leinarts plays great football, hes gone because of his contract

 

[WildBB]

i agree, whitehurst sorry shane

Giving up a possible #3 for a guy that has never thrown an NFL pass isn't a good sign for #7. I still think this trade is made for 2011 because unless Leinarts plays great football, hes gone because of his contract

I guess the idea is, if he plays well this yr. and proves to be a starter in this league then he'll be worth the 8-9M say his restructured deal will pay him. Otherwise he'll have to settle for much less somewhere else to prove himself.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

The only thing that worries me about Leinart is that, depsite Whiz's repeated endorsements, there seems to be alot of smoke coming from reports about not being sold on Leinart. I don't what this is based on but you hear it from more than 1 place. It could all be speculation but you never know.

 

[Stout]

No thanks. No thanks to Whitehurst or to trading Leinart, especially to a division rival.

 

[TJ]

The only thing that worries me about Leinart is that, depsite Whiz's repeated endorsements, there seems to be alot of smoke coming from reports about not being sold on Leinart. I don't what this is based on but you hear it from more than 1 place. It could all be speculation but you never know.

I think what you are hearing a lot of is media spin. The biggest Cardinal story this offseason is the retirement of Warner and how Matty will succeed. This situation has been picked to the bone and any move and speech given by Whis is carefully analyzed. The fact that there is so much ambiguity behind this story leaves opportunity for the media to take and run with it how they please. Some like him some don't. Expect this type of reporting til his first game

 

[slinslin]

A 1st and I'd do it. I honestly would hate it if Leinart became elite and we became his whipping boy for the next 10 years for only a 2nd round pick...

Oh I am not afraid about that at all, I think there is 0% chance he will ever be elite, at best he'll be above average starting QB.

If Seattle gave up their first for Leinart I'd send him packing, we could have an outstanding 3-4 if we invest 2 first round picks and sign Foote/Porter. Get another unproven talented QB like Leinart and I see not much of a difference. Heck I'd rather have Vick inaccurate or not rather than Leinart.

And lets face it, the chances of him playing good enough for the Cards to pay him that money next year are next to nothing. He is gone in a year anyway, might as well get a first from Seattle and go with another unproven QB.

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Yeah everyone parties, but what player that is dedicated to become an elite player gets caught like that?

 

[Stout]

And he's done that how much in the last few years? Don't bother giving examples, because there aren't any. Oh, and every hear of Broadway Joe?

 

[WildBB]

And he's done that how much in the last few years? Don't bother giving examples, because there aren't any. Oh, and every hear of Broadway Joe?

Broadway hit the Bars on a weekly basis. Different era though.

 

[slinslin]

It's too bad Matt Leinart has sucked on the field ever since pretty much.

Honestly the chance of him being on the roster after next years are <1% that's why I'd take a first rounder in a heartbeat.

Leinart is a big unknown, might as well go with a rookie or other unproven QB and get picks out of Leinart before they cut him next year.

 

[Shane]

Yea your right that's pretty crazy!

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

yes, this is certainly crazy bus...

 

[Cards Czar]

Most of those photos where taken in his first 2 years as a pro. None in the last 2 yrs. maybe he is finally getting his act together??