Cornerbacks at #6: Smoke or Fire?

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Today in the Republic, Graves is quoted as saying they really like Suggs, but not to get "too focused on one player" because they really like a lot of guys. Then, it says they really like both Trufant and Newman and that it would also fill a need for KR.

How likely do you think it is that they might pick one of these two over Suggs? I think it's more than a remote possibility. Remember, some in the Cardinals office last year wanted Buchanon to be the pick at #12, not Bryant. But, McGinnis got the guy he wanted. If Graves gets the final call this year, we just might surprise everyone and take a CB.
 

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Today in the Republic, Graves is quoted as saying they really like Suggs, but not to get "too focused on one player" because they really like a lot of guys. Then, it says they really like both Trufant and Newman and that it would also fill a need for KR.
And they also think Kennedy and Kevin Williams is the cats meow.

Actually, if you're into conspiracy theories, the one guy Graves or Mac didn't mention was Robertson, so maybe that's who they'll pick.

Seriously - during the next 5½ days leading up to the draft, it makes sense for a team drafting high to say they like anybody who's name is mentioned and will consider a trade from anybody. It boosts the value of their pick and the possibility of a lopsided trade.
 

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Originally posted by ajcardfan
Today in the Republic, Graves is quoted as saying they really like Suggs, but not to get "too focused on one player" because they really like a lot of guys. Then, it says they really like both Trufant and Newman and that it would also fill a need for KR.

How likely do you think it is that they might pick one of these two over Suggs? I think it's more than a remote possibility. Remember, some in the Cardinals office last year wanted Buchanon to be the pick at #12, not Bryant. But, McGinnis got the guy he wanted. If Graves gets the final call this year, we just might surprise everyone and take a CB.

I think that if Leftwich falls, that we will take him over anyone. Paola Bolvin's article made me kind of agree with that logic.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/cardinals/0420boivin0420.html

This column is on the clock . . .

It was a bizarre hour when Valley media met with Cardinals coach Dave McGinnis (below) and Rod Graves, vice president of football operations, last week. Twelve minutes after Graves said, "We're not likely to be doing it there" about drafting a quarterback with the No. 6 pick, McGinnis said, "Between now and draft day, anything you hear from a coach and general manager is a lie."

Hmmmm.

Whom and what do we believe? Recent events have added intrigue to the Cardinals' selection in this weekend's NFL draft. Defensive end Terrell Suggs' brush with the law and mediocre 40-yard dash times have triggered concerns for some, although the Cardinals appear unfazed.

In Florida, meanwhile, quarterback Byron Leftwich impressed scouts by clocking a 4.88, a better time than expected considering his twice-broken left leg.

Cincinnati receiver Ron Dugans, who caught passes from Leftwich during the workout, marveled to reporters about the quarterback's arm strength. "I think he's going to be a great NFL quarterback."

Are the Cardinals playing cat-and-mouse with us or do they truly not want to spend an early pick on a quarterback? Here's one hunch that it's the latter. Maybe Graves has a great poker face, but he looked sincere when he said, "As of today, I'd say it (drafting a quarterback high) is probably not likely."

The draft is loaded with picks that could blow up, but if the Cardinals go with Suggs or Leftwich they'll be fine. For those of us who have seen Suggs play on a regular basis, those 40 times are irrelevant. He has the type of speed necessary to reach the quarterback, and he was never one to take a play off.

As for the 6-foot-5, 240-pound Leftwich - wow - it's hard to look past a guy who can throw 82 yards downfield, plus 55 yards through uprights while on his knees. He has the strongest arm in the draft, he's smart and he reads defenses better than most of his peers. He had the second-best quarterback rating in the country last season and threw just 10 interceptions vs. 30 touchdowns.

McGinnis admitted he was wowed by their meeting.

"He was a great interview," McGinnis said. "Face up, person to person. He's extremely bright. You can see why a team in the huddle would migrate to him."

With at least one of these two likely to be available when the Cardinals pick (if they don't trade down), you'd think the team wouldn't mess up this pick. There's always that fear, because some in the organization seem prone to go for the splashy choice over the right choice.

Who knows what the teams that select ahead of the Cardinals will do. The hyperbole that comes out of the mouths of league executives in early April is like two straight weeks of Santa Ana winds.

Remember then-Philadelphia coach Buddy Ryan's proclamation in 1986, that there was no way the Eagles would draft Keith Byars in the first round because he's a "medical reject"? Days later, they drafted him. In the first round.

In 1991, Dallas coach Jimmy Johnson said "everything is off" in trade talks to draft Raghib "Rocket" Ismail. The next day, the Cowboys did trade for the first pick in the draft, but when Ismail's price was too high and he signed with the CFL, the Cowboys took Russell Maryland.

As McGinnis said Thursday, "It's a high-stakes game."

I prefer the take of the late George Young when he was the Giants general manager. "A lot of times we sound secretive," he said, "when we're really just confused."
 

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No way the take a corner. Suggs or Leftwich on my opinion.

Wouldn't be too sure it isn't the QB. This team is going nowhere short term.
 

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something about taking a cb that high in the draft rankles me. It has to do with them all being approximately the same size, 5' 11" 185 pounds. My point is that there are about 100 eligible cbs in the draft and I just don't think you get enough value for your 1st round pick if you take one.

I always think about terrell buckley. the guy was supposed to be a "shut down" corner but every hightlight I ever saw of the guy was of him chasing a wide receiver down the field after the WR made a catch.

I know there will always be busts, but you could take cbs with our 6th and 7th round picks and end up with a guy who, after all is said and done, would give you the same amount of productivity as a cb you took in the first round.

take a qb, de, dt, with the first round pick but not a cb.
 

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Originally posted by Crimson Warrior
something about taking a cb that high in the draft rankles me. It has to do with them all being approximately the same size, 5' 11" 185 pounds. My point is that there are about 100 eligible cbs in the draft and I just don't think you get enough value for your 1st round pick if you take one.

I always think about terrell buckley. the guy was supposed to be a "shut down" corner but every hightlight I ever saw of the guy was of him chasing a wide receiver down the field after the WR made a catch.

I know there will always be busts, but you could take cbs with our 6th and 7th round picks and end up with a guy who, after all is said and done, would give you the same amount of productivity as a cb you took in the first round.

take a qb, de, dt, with the first round pick but not a cb.

I agree 100%. The best corner the Cards have had in the past 20 years probably? Aeneas Williams, Third round, Southern 1991. I don't like taking corners too high because if they suck, the team is s.o.l.. It's a position I would draft every year, but not a 1st rounder unless it was a Deion type, or later in round one.

As good as Newman is, I don't think he is Deion good (though I still think Deion is overrated).
 

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