Cards sign Gardner Minshew

[slanidrac16]

This is poverty thinking. This team had two months to prepare for free agency. You shouldn’t just accept where we are today as the inevitable outcome.

Jacoby Brissett: week one starter was not the only way.

So name another quarterback available THIS year that was going to be an exponential improvement over Brissett.
If you say, Garrapolo, Levis, Smith, Cousins, Wilson or Richardson then there’s not much to talk about.

 

[Chopper0080]

So name another quarterback available THIS year that was going to be an exponential improvement over Brissett.
If you say, Garrapolo, Levis, Smith, Cousins, Wilson or Richardson then there’s not much to talk about.

Except that Cousins has actually won football games…but apparently people don’t care about that.

 

[kerouac9]

Pure speculation, but my guess is that LaFleur agreed with a plan to pursue Willis up to certain contract maximum dollar figure. I can't even venture a guess as to what happened with Jimmy G. Maybe again it was an agreed upon limitation on the contract dollars?

Coaches don’t care about contract dollars my man

 

[kerouac9]

So name another quarterback available THIS year that was going to be an exponential improvement over Brissett.
If you say, Garrapolo, Levis, Smith, Cousins, Wilson or Richardson then there’s not much to talk about.

I don’t think “exponential” improvement should be the metric. Obviously when you’re coming off a three-win season and a 1-11 finish led by Jacoby Brissett, there’s a lot of incremental improvement available.

Obviously if you want to scratch every available name, you’re not asking this question in good faith, anyway. My position on how to manage the QB situation has been shared for weeks.

 

[slanidrac16]

Except that Cousins has actually won football games…but apparently people don’t care about that.

Let’s not forget the fact that he’s missed 19 games in the last 3 years. He is not exponentially better than Brissett.

 

[Card'em]

Coaches don’t care about contract dollars my man

So you think coaches don't care about roster construction and cap dollar limitations? Give me a break...we as fans understand it and think about it, but a head coach can't be bothered with it.

 

[kerouac9]

Let’s not forget the fact that he’s missed 19 games in the last 3 years. He is not exponentially better than Brissett.

How many games did Brissett miss because he wasn’t good enough to start or was benched?

So you think coaches don't care about roster construction and cap dollar limitations? Give me a break...we as fans understand it and think about it, but a head coach can't be bothered with it.

No. They’re too busy doing coaching work. That’s the GM’s job. It’s weird you don’t get this.

 

[Stout]

Except that Cousins has actually won football games…but apparently people don’t care about that.

How many games do you think Old Man River (not to be confused with Old Man Rivers) would win with the Cards this season? I don't think it would be many more, if any, than JB.

 

[slanidrac16]

I don’t think “exponential” improvement should be the metric. Obviously when you’re coming off a three-win season and a 1-11 finish led by Jacoby Brissett, there’s a lot of incremental improvement available.

Obviously if you want to scratch every available name, you’re not asking this question in good faith, anyway. My position on how to manage the QB situation has been shared for weeks.

So sign anybody you agree like so we can turn Brissetts 1-11 record to 3-9?
Awesome. Then we will be griping we didn’t tank for a shot at a better qb.
Okay.
Bottom line is there is not a qb available this year. That’s it in a nutshell.

 

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[slanidrac16]

How many games do you think Old Man River (not to be confused with Old Man Rivers) would win with the Cards this season? I don't think it would be many more, if any, than JB.

Stout, I’m not happy with the current situation. But this isn’t fantasy football. Bottom line is there just isn’t a Qb available this year to hitch the wagon to. Willis would have perhaps produced some excitement but many here would have thought it was a bad move.
Many Level head fans have said go with Brissett and spend all the money and picks to improve the team around Brissett and/or any other future qb.

 

[BritCard]

Right after this in a post you say this: A player isn't going to choose the Cardinals at $15m per over the Eagles at $14m per.

You're great at double talk to support your points.

No, you might want to consider what I wrote in full. I said there are multiple aspects that go into a decision that are not just money.

I would think in this case that one of those factors was he saw a better chance to play games here than at the Chiefs. Which is a fairly big deal for any QB.

 

[BritCard]

Except that Cousins has actually won football games…but apparently people don’t care about that.

It's almost as if every else realises that wins are not a QB stat and it's hard to win games when our defense gave up 30+ per game.

 

[BritCard]

I don’t think “exponential” improvement should be the metric. Obviously when you’re coming off a three-win season and a 1-11 finish led by Jacoby Brissett, there’s a lot of incremental improvement available.

Obviously if you want to scratch every available name, you’re not asking this question in good faith, anyway. My position on how to manage the QB situation has been shared for weeks.

That was a lot of words to again not answer the question.

What is your QB solution?

 

[kerouac9]

So sign anybody you agree like so we can turn Brissetts 1-11 record to 3-9?
Awesome. Then we will be griping we didn’t tank for a shot at a better qb.
Okay.
Bottom line is there is not a qb available this year. That’s it in a nutshell.

Yeah I don’t believe you get better by losing. I didn’t believe in the tank three years ago, it obviously didn’t work, and I don’t believe in it now.

 

[kerouac9]

Many Level head fans have said go with Brissett and spend all the money and picks to improve the team around Brissett and/or any other future qb.

How’s the second part of this plan going for you?

That was a lot of words to again not answer the question.

What is your QB solution?

I’ve said many times what my 2026 QB strategy would be. You’re not asking this question in good faith.

 

[Gandhi]

I find it hard to believe that our new coach, who is an offensive coordinator, was not part and parcel of every off-season decision that has been made regarding our QB position. The more reasonable assumption to me is that LaFleur has specifically supported the plan to start Brissett this season.

If Ossenfort really wanted, he could easily have given Willis a better contract than Miami could. Easily.

 

[Card'em]

If Ossenfort really wanted, he could easily have given Willis a better contract than Miami could. Easily.

I agree. My point was that whatever strategy we had for acquiring Willis, LaFleur had to be aware of it and supported it, including any ceiling on the cap dollars that were going to be allocated.

 

[Chopper0080]

Let’s not forget the fact that he’s missed 19 games in the last 3 years. He is not exponentially better than Brissett.

He is 12-10 over the past two seasons. He would be the most successful QB the Cardinals have had since Carson Palmer.

 

[Chopper0080]

How many games do you think Old Man River (not to be confused with Old Man Rivers) would win with the Cards this season? I don't think it would be many more, if any, than JB.

Cousins knows the offense, is about as mobile as Brissett, and has a history of winning football games over his career and recently. I don't know what the number would be but I think it's naive to think he hasn't proven to clearly be a better QB than Brissett. Neither is the future, but one clearly gives you a better shot at winning games.

 

[Krangodnzr]

He is 12-10 over the past two seasons. He would be the most successful QB the Cardinals have had since Carson Palmer.

I think that just looking at W/L is the height of "I got nuthin'" argument for a QB .

QB play is so dependent on the supporting cast and Cousins has absolutely had a significantly better supporting cast with the Vikes/Falcons than Brissett had with the Cardinals.

 

[Chopper0080]

It's almost as if every else realises that wins are not a QB stat and it's hard to win games when our defense gave up 30+ per game.

This is you changing the goalposts. You asked for a better option in terms of wins and I gave you a better option based on just the past two seasons. Now you are fabricating a story that Brissett is somehow equal to Cousins based on the unprovable alternative universe where Brissett had a better defense last year.

Cousins was 5-3 with a team that ended the year with the 13th pick. Brissett was 1-11 with a team than ended up with the 3rd pick. The talent gap between those teams is not that great.

 

[PJ1]

Post some links on those fans laughing at us. Because all I see from fans of the teams Menshew has played for, telling us to get ready for a wild ride because Menshew Mania is coming to the desert...and folks saying we got one hell of a backup QB.
Maybe your twitterX algorithm is different from mine.

No, I live in St Louis which has become mostly Chief fans. Most of my family are Chief fans. Neighbors, friends etc. They all say good luck with that and saying Chiefs need a better backup. He may be a character but I have yet to see anyone report this as a good move for the Cardinals nor did I see anyone mention him as a possibility. So stick with your twitterx and enjoy your Minshew jersey.

 

[Chopper0080]

I think that just looking at W/L is the height of "I got nuthin'" argument for a QB .

QB play is so dependent on the supporting cast and Cousins has absolutely had a significantly better supporting cast with the Vikes/Falcons than Brissett had with the Cardinals.

If the Falcons had a significant better supporting cast, they wouldn't be drafting 13th in the draft this year.

Falcons were 3-6 without Cousins last year. Cardinals were 1-11 without Kyler. The talent gap isn't that big./

 

[BritCard]

I’ve said many times what my 2026 QB strategy would be. You’re not asking this question in good faith.

It really must have been well disguised as I missed it. Can you link to one of these many times?