Cards say offers for trade down are picking up

[Goldfield]

All this trade talk just reeks of trying to be the smartest guy in the room when what usually ends up happening is making yourself look the fool

What if your the only one in The room?

 

[QuebecCard]

1st round picks that don't contribute in the first season almost never contribute in any significant way.

I can think of very few exceptions, and if they are an exception it's usually because they had mental or off the field issues holding them back. Most of the time players don't change those.

Names, names and names?

 

[QuebecCard]

FYI Vikings HC said today that he thinks two first rounders should get the job done. Interesting to see these negotiations move into the media.

2 (#11, #23) - 1 (#4) = 1

Ergo - two first-rounders are one extra in 2024 and another in 2025.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

2 (#11, #23) - 1 (#4) = 1

Ergo - two first-rounders are one extra in 2024 and another in 2025.

That’s not how it’s discussed. In the equation you provided that’s considered 2 first round picks for one. It nets you one additional pick, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s considered (and actually is) two firsts for one. What you say in the second paragraph is three firsts for one.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Names, names and names?

DJ Humphries and Hassan Reddick were named from our team alone. Did you not see them?

 

[QuebecCard]

That’s not how it’s discussed. In the equation you provided that’s considered 2 first round picks for one. It nets you one additional pick, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s considered (and actually is) two firsts for one. What you say in the second paragraph is three firsts for one.

Considered by who? Not by Monti, I would think.

The ONLY thing that matters is the NET return to the Cards, and it's TWO first rounders over two drafts in return for dropping out of the top 10.

And given that it's likely that the 2025 pick will be the range of this draft's #23, it means two extra picks beyond the half way point in the first round for turning one's back on possibly a #1 WR for the next decade ala Fitz.

 

[Cheesebeef]

DJ Humphries and Hassan Reddick were named from our team alone. Did you not see them?

Garrison Hearst was incredibly underwhelming his first 7 games of his rookie season before tearing his ACL. Came back a couple seasons later and even with the ACL injury, he looked like a different player than the struggling rookie.

 

[Mulli]

Garrison Hearst was incredibly underwhelming his first 7 games of his rookie season before tearing his ACL. Came back a couple seasons later and even with the ACL injury, he looked like a different player than the struggling rookie.

Aaron Rodgers didn't play for 3 years.

 

[bankybruce]

I wouldn't hate this.

#11 Dallas Turner
#16 Brian Thomas Jr.
#27 Kool-Aid McKinstry

Lance Zierlein 2024 NFL mock draft 3.0: Giants trade up for QB Drake Maye; WR Ladd McConkey to Chiefs

 

[Shane]

Garrison Hearst was incredibly underwhelming his first 7 games of his rookie season before tearing his ACL. Came back a couple seasons later and even with the ACL injury, he looked like a different player than the struggling rookie.

Kyle Vandenbosch would fall into this category as well

 

[Totally_Red]

I wouldn't hate this.

#11 Dallas Turner
#16 Brian Thomas Jr.
#27 Kool-Aid McKinstry

Lance Zierlein 2024 NFL mock draft 3.0: Giants trade up for QB Drake Maye; WR Ladd McConkey to Chiefs

Replace kool-aid with a better CB. There are at least four better including TJ Tampa.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Replace kool-aid with a better CB. There are at least four better including TJ Tampa.

That's a stretch.

 

[Mulli]

That's a stretch.

 

[bankybruce]

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[Denny Green Fan]

Considered by who? Not by Monti, I would think.

The ONLY thing that matters is the NET return to the Cards, and it's TWO first rounders over two drafts in return for dropping out of the top 10.

And given that it's likely that the 2025 pick will be the range of this draft's #23, it means two extra picks beyond the half way point in the first round for turning one's back on possibly a #1 WR for the next decade ala Fitz.

Just got done watching mock draft live zerlein has us trading with the vikes and getting Dallas turner at 11 and trading up from 23 for Bryan thomas. I turned the tv off before seeing pick 27 not because I was mad tho lol. I would take them 2 tho with 2 high picks still coming. As I was watching tonight another mock scrolled under the screen also taking Dallas turner this time at 4

 

[DVontel]

There are at least four better

Not in that range & that includes TJ Tampa.

 

[outcent13]

Aaron Rodgers didn't play for 3 years.

Jordan Love as well.

That’s not how it’s discussed. In the equation you provided that’s considered 2 first round picks for one. It nets you one additional pick, but it doesn’t change the fact that it’s considered (and actually is) two firsts for one. What you say in the second paragraph is three firsts for one.

Agreed. You know the draft can’t come soon enough when folks are discussing the proper verbiage for trading picks lol .

 

[Chopper0080]

Just saying that Cortland Sutton does nothing for the Cardinals. Is he an upgrade over the group we have, yes. Is he "good", not really. If you trade with Denver, you better bring back Surtain.

 

[kerouac9]

Just saying that Cortland Sutton does nothing for the Cardinals. Is he an upgrade over the group we have, yes. Is he "good", not really. If you trade with Denver, you better bring back Surtain.

Courtland Sutton is Michael Wilson's ceiling. He wouldn't be a dynamic playmaker here, but he'd definitely raise the floor. He's not a Malik Nabers substitute, though. You'd still be looking to add a high-ceiling player somewhere.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Courtland Sutton is Michael Wilson's ceiling. He wouldn't be a dynamic playmaker here, but he'd definitely raise the floor. He's not a Malik Nabers substitute, though. You'd still be looking to add a high-ceiling player somewhere.

I'd be really happy with Michael Wilson being Sutton's ceiling.

 

[kerouac9]

I'd be really happy with Michael Wilson being Sutton's ceiling.

Michael Wilson today is Sutton's floor. Otherwise you have your post backward.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Michael Wilson today is Sutton's floor. Otherwise you have your post backward.

I do. Too lazy to change it.

 

[Chopper0080]

Courtland Sutton is Michael Wilson's ceiling. He wouldn't be a dynamic playmaker here, but he'd definitely raise the floor. He's not a Malik Nabers substitute, though. You'd still be looking to add a high-ceiling player somewhere.

Not interested in paying 17 mil per year for Sutton's age 29 and 30 seasons. Guy hasn't had over 829 yards receiving since 2019.

Wilson's 43.5 yards per game last year was actually only .5 yards less than Sutton's 44 yards per game his rookie season. Personally, I feel Wilson's ceiling is more Allen Robinson or Adam Thielen

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Not interested in paying 17 mil per year for Sutton's age 29 and 30 seasons. Guy hasn't had over 829 yards receiving since 2019.

Wilson's 43.5 yards per game last year was actually only .5 yards less than Sutton's 44 yards per game his rookie season. Personally, I feel Wilson's ceiling is more Allen Robinson or Adam Thielen

Yuuuup

 

[SoonerLou]

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