Can we blame Vogel?

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I had never heard of this. I just looked it up. :D Speaking of parallel universes, I loved the TV show Fringe! Which also just reminded me of an even older TV show that dealt with parallel universes. Can't remember the name.

ETA: Found it. Sliders from 1995 starring Jerry O'Connell.
 

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I think I just figured out how it happens. Mainstreet starts many of the threads so his name hyperlink is just below the thread title. I often browse on my iPad which is a touchscreen. My finger sometimes misses the the thread title and instead pops up Mainstreet’s window which has the Ignore button just above his name. I probably accidentally hit it when trying to make the window go away so I can try to open the thread again.
I have done that on my iPad (pushing things I don't mean to).
 

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Whoa. You called it. Somehow I had Mainstreet on ignore. I have NO idea how that happened. It definitely was not intentional. I really was in the Twilight Zone where nobody knew what I was talking about. Crazy.

Is it really that easy to accidentally ignore someone? Thanks for figuring it out!
Maybe having Mainstreet on ignore is an ASFN PWI happening? :shrug:
 

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Posting while intoxicated, suggesting that you'd have to be drunk to want to put Mainstreet on ignore would be my guess.
Ha! When I looked it up, the first thing that came up was Predominantly White Institutions. LOL. This makes much more sense! Hilarious. But no, I'm not much of a drinker. Just socially. It was more of a questionable interface/user error issue.
 

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if there was ever any doubt - i think the spurs sealed vogel's fate - we beat them with wemby - then pops had a chance to think about it and run it back a couple days later - we all saw what happened - and not only are they a lottery team but they were wembyless

when the west is as tight as it it is - and with the bs disappointing losses we suffered previously - that game was it for me - before that i just preferred he be fired but that game man - that was unforgivable garbage
 
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Our 3pt shooters are streaky of various degrees. When someone is not feeling it, and we are in big lead like 30pts in the 3rd qrt, why not try out some defense for offense rotation changes and cut the formers' playing time a bit? When a guy like Zion or Shai or Doncis is dominating, why not put in some defense specialists to manage the damage, which often outweighs the additional 3pt shooter's court effect.
 

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Was just reading Gerald Borquet's latest article and the following paragraph kind of blew my mind.

What carries the Suns is their absurd efficiency. Despite ranking second in the league in frequency of shots that are "tightly" guarded and dead-last in frequency of shots that are "open," the Suns are still fourth in field-goal percentage and fifth in 3-point percentage. Simply put, they're the most elite shot-making team in the NBA. They just have to make sure they're managing the (expected) deficit in 3-point attempts.

Second in the league of tightly guarded shots? That is ABSURD with 3 scorers as good as the big 3.

Couple other very interesting facts:
Phoenix is 21-12 when they commit 13 turnovers or less (52-win pace), but fall to 23-19 when they commit 14 turnovers or more (45-win pace).
So essentially, the Suns are a 66-win team when they at least match their opponent in 3-point makes, and they're a 33-win team when they fail to do so.
When Phoenix records 30 assists or more, they're 20-3. When they fail to reach the 30-assist mark, they're 24-28. That's the difference between a 71-win team and a 38-win team.


Based on this article perhaps the coaching is an even bigger problem than I thought it was.
 

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Was just reading Gerald Borquet's latest article and the following paragraph kind of blew my mind.

What carries the Suns is their absurd efficiency. Despite ranking second in the league in frequency of shots that are "tightly" guarded and dead-last in frequency of shots that are "open," the Suns are still fourth in field-goal percentage and fifth in 3-point percentage. Simply put, they're the most elite shot-making team in the NBA. They just have to make sure they're managing the (expected) deficit in 3-point attempts.

Second in the league of tightly guarded shots? That is ABSURD with 3 scorers as good as the big 3.

Couple other very interesting facts:
Phoenix is 21-12 when they commit 13 turnovers or less (52-win pace), but fall to 23-19 when they commit 14 turnovers or more (45-win pace).
So essentially, the Suns are a 66-win team when they at least match their opponent in 3-point makes, and they're a 33-win team when they fail to do so.
When Phoenix records 30 assists or more, they're 20-3. When they fail to reach the 30-assist mark, they're 24-28. That's the difference between a 71-win team and a 38-win team.


Based on this article perhaps the coaching is an even bigger problem than I thought it was.
Simple math. You have the best shooters. You get up more shots most nights you win. What can derail that? Turn overs. Giving the other team more shots, ie, second chance point attempts. Letting them get more offensive rebounds and put backs. Suns just not turn the ball over, actually get more second chance points, keep the other team from the previously mentioned stats and that's a W. We beat ourselves, essentially, most nights.
 

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Simple math. You have the best shooters. You get up more shots most nights you win. What can derail that? Turn overs. Giving the other team more shots, ie, second chance point attempts. Letting them get more offensive rebounds and put backs. Suns just not turn the ball over, actually get more second chance points, keep the other team from the previously mentioned stats and that's a W. We beat ourselves, essentially, most nights.
Yes, and that is why the team is so frustrating. I just didn't realize how much was self inflicted till I read this article.
 

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Was just reading Gerald Borquet's latest article and the following paragraph kind of blew my mind.

What carries the Suns is their absurd efficiency. Despite ranking second in the league in frequency of shots that are "tightly" guarded and dead-last in frequency of shots that are "open," the Suns are still fourth in field-goal percentage and fifth in 3-point percentage. Simply put, they're the most elite shot-making team in the NBA. They just have to make sure they're managing the (expected) deficit in 3-point attempts.

Second in the league of tightly guarded shots? That is ABSURD with 3 scorers as good as the big 3.

Couple other very interesting facts:
Phoenix is 21-12 when they commit 13 turnovers or less (52-win pace), but fall to 23-19 when they commit 14 turnovers or more (45-win pace).
So essentially, the Suns are a 66-win team when they at least match their opponent in 3-point makes, and they're a 33-win team when they fail to do so.
When Phoenix records 30 assists or more, they're 20-3. When they fail to reach the 30-assist mark, they're 24-28. That's the difference between a 71-win team and a 38-win team.


Based on this article perhaps the coaching is an even bigger problem than I thought it was.
The tightly guarded stat is the most damning of Vogel and his staff imo. Having three elite shot makers should create wide open shots and fewer double teams. But instead here we are.
 

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The tightly guarded stat is the most damning of Vogel and his staff imo. Having three elite shot makers should create wide open shots and fewer double teams. But instead here we are.
You can have three exotic sports cars, but if you don't know how to drive them, you'll never be able to get the best performance.
 
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