Bradley Beal Departure Thread

[JosiahLee]

Because they are developing new talent for the future. They are not trying to be competitive now. Beal is just in the way. Why is this so hard to understand?

If this were truly how the team is thinking then why keep Booker instead of getting a massive haul for him?

 

[Cheesebeef]

As Gambo points out, NOW is the time to stretch and waive guys since the cap is rising the next few years. The hit by Beal is not so much. This is MUCH better than trading him and having to give up the few assets we have to accomplish it.

I’m sorry, but the cap goes up for EVERYONE which means we’re not gaining any kind of advantage there.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Book will be adding to that next year despite the increase, he'll be on the Books for 70M which is an increase of 17M.

It’s insane to pay that much of the cap for a sometimes All-Star while trying to completely rebuild/revamp the roster.

 

[Hoop Head]

If this were truly how the team is thinking then why keep Booker instead of getting a massive haul for him?

I see no issue keeping Booker and letting him decide his future. If he wants out, we can accommodate him but we should not put a sale sign on him before he requests it. That should also keep his value high.

After seeing us get low balled for KD, no offers for Beal, and elsewhere how Butler and other All-Star's get poor returns once word is out they're available, we need to keep a lid on all Booker movement. If I were Ish, I'd make a handshake deal with Book that we'll move him if he wants so long as he doesn't go public. Keep his value as high as possible until then.

 

[clyde2tw]

I still think it's stupid to turn a two-year problem into a five-year problem, but to be fair, as cap keeps rising, Beal's stretch provision dead cap is not going to look as bad. I still think they should just ride it out. If you have to cut salary to get under the second apron, use Richards, O'Neale, and Allen to do so.

Depending on how much Beal gives back at the buyout, I wonder whether Suns could make a decision of stretching later when there is a need. Say if the buyout is for 95 mil, and there is no MLE player we could sign this season, then use RO or maybe even Richards could get us under the 2nd apron. Then I'd not stretch the 2025-26 salary. And next summer, we do the same and only stretch the 26-27 salary over 3 years when needed in FA period.

 

[BirdGangThing]

didnt gambo say a couple days ago there would be a beal resolution within the next 48 hrs

 

[Mainstreet]

didnt gambo say a couple days ago there would be a beal resolution within the next 48 hrs

We are on day two.

Gambo's doing the best he can in Sicily. It must be nice.

He left us to do all the grunt work on the Suns.

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[Carolinacacti]

Something to think about. The current CBA expires after the 2029-30 season.

It also includes a mutual opt-out option after the 2028-29 season.

The NBA ratings are in the cellar. I wonder how much it will go up

 

[swagron]

Bradley Beal contract buyout explainer: Why Suns want to move on, plus landing spots for veteran scorer

The Suns are ready get Bradley Beal off their roster, even with the long-term complications

www.cbssports.com

 

[Mainstreet]

The NBA ratings are in the cellar. I wonder how much it will go up

I don't know, but I really enjoyed the Finals with the Pacers and Thunder.

 

[taz02]

If the roster stays as is, we all should prepare for a rough season. We lost our best player with his 27 ppg and replaced him with unproven rookies. Unless at least one of these guys blows it up and plays like an all-star our record will be worse.

As for giving Booker the extension, he may not be the guy to lead us to a championship, but he will help attract the guy who can.

Booker is also an excellent player and loyal to the team. You either trade him to begin a complete rebuild or "pay the man his money".

 

[Superbone]

If the roster stays as is, we all should prepare for a rough season. We lost our best player with his 27 ppg and replaced him with unproven rookies. Unless at least one of these guys blows it up and plays like an all-star our record will be worse.

As for giving Booker the extension, he may not be the guy to lead us to a championship, but he will help attract the guy who can.

Booker is also an excellent player and loyal to the team. You either trade him to begin a complete rebuild or "pay the man his money".

Maybe so but it will be much more fun to watch than the last two seasons.

 

[95pro]

If the roster stays as is, we all should prepare for a rough season. We lost our best player with his 27 ppg and replaced him with unproven rookies. Unless at least one of these guys blows it up and plays like an all-star our record will be worse.

As for giving Booker the extension, he may not be the guy to lead us to a championship, but he will help attract the guy who can.

Booker is also an excellent player and loyal to the team. You either trade him to begin a complete rebuild or "pay the man his money".

Its not all about offense as our defense was terrible. We added in some height and length. Our centers are definite upgrades already on both ends, KD's weak side help coverage made him look good on defense with our washed up centers. Also gone is iso ball, which killed our offensive sets. I look at it as addition by subtraction, KD's style of play eventually became the identity of the suns and it was not fun.

If you're purely looking at replacing your KD offense at 27ppg, Green counts for 20. I'm sure 7 points can come from our new rim runners and lob threats which is something we did not have at all last year. And this also gives us a legit inside-out threat to our offense, again which is something we did not have last year.

 

[Mainstreet]

Too bad, the Suns couldn't have put together a Beal trade to the Bulls and got Patrick Williams in return.

The lack of Suns assets and Beal's NTC may have been its demise.

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[BirdGangThing]

beal resolution gotta come today right

 

[JCSunsfan]

Maybe so but it will be much more fun to watch than the last two seasons.

I couldn't watch KD. And I did not particularly have a problem with him. Last year's team just seemed like it was going through the motions and KD was at the center of it. I will be glad to watch the rookies develop. I will also be glad to watch a passionate young coach. He might end up being horrible, but he has some innovation and passion.

 

[Mainstreet]

beal resolution gotta come today right

Yeah, we need some resolution. I figure Beal is shopping for a new team and as much salary as possible.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Yeah, we need some resolution. I figure Beal is shopping for a new team and as much salary as possible.

Beal is functioning like a FA right now. The Suns have given him a buyout number, now he just needs to find a team that will make up the difference.

 

[Ronin]

https://athlonsports.com/nba/phoenix-suns/phoenix-suns-gm-sends-bradley-beal-message-amid-buyout-rumors

 

[Yuma]

Since the Suns presently can't aggregate players in trades and have few available draft assets, they don't have much to entice a team to trade for Beal.

They could ride Beal's contract out for the next two seasons, but apparently have chosen otherwise.

I would have been OK for even half a season more. Waive and stretch him halfway through the season. That would have saved millions in cap space for us. Plus five years out, that's a huge window.

 

[Yuma]

Beal is functioning like a FA right now. The Suns have given him a buyout number, now he just needs to find a team that will make up the difference.

I almost think him and his wife are mulling options, shopping for a new house, etc. Supposedly he has five teams in four cities interested. How hard can it be to narrow that list down?

 

[Yuma]

The NBA ratings are in the cellar. I wonder how much it will go up

All content is going up. You could have Housewives of Yuma County, and make money. It's crazy right now.

 

[95pro]

I would have been OK for even half a season more. Waive and stretch him halfway through the season. That would have saved millions in cap space for us. Plus five years out, that's a huge window.

This is what I have been saying. His contract becomes more attractive with less owed to him by the trade deadline. This save us 25M if we waive him, there's less money taking up the cap over 5 years. The negatives are that this still keeps us in the 2nd apron until the trade deadline if we are done making moves. I don't mind this as much since we have to see what the roster puts on the court. This give us options at the deadline to make some moves if necessary.

On the flip side, today could be the day for some shocking news where the Suns actually traded Beal.

 

[Mainstreet]

I would have been OK for even half a season more. Waive and stretch him halfway through the season. That would have saved millions in cap space for us. Plus five years out, that's a huge window.

I'm not sure if it works that way, but the Suns have to do what is best for their future.

 

[Hoop Head]

I would have been OK for even half a season more. Waive and stretch him halfway through the season. That would have saved millions in cap space for us. Plus five years out, that's a huge window.

What do mean a half season more? Yes, Ishbia saves money but the Suns don't. Cap figures aren't broken like that. Whether he's waived and stretched today or 6 months from now, the amount is spread over 5 years and the salary this season doesn't change because we paid a portion because part of the season elapsed.