Bobby Knight retires effective immediately

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Bob Knight, [the winningest NCAA men's division I basketball coach in history, has retired as Texas Tech's coach effective immediately. Knight, 67, won his 902nd game Saturday when the Red Raiders downed Oklahoma State. He will be replaced by his son, Pat. Knight informed athletic director Gerald Myers of his decision Monday morning.

Knight won three national titles at Indiana, in 1976, '81 and '87. In all, he took the Hoosiers to 24 NCAA tournament appearances and reached the Final Four two other times.
During his tenure at Texas Tech, Knight was 138-82, and he led the Red Raiders to the NCAA Tournament in four of his six seasons, reaching the Sweet 16 in 2005. The Red Raiders are 11-8 this season and 3-3 in the Big 12, tied for sixth in the conference with Oklahoma.
Knight is one of six men who have played and coached in the Final Four. He played for Ohio State when the Buckeyes reached the Final Four in 1960, '61 and '62. He and Dean Smith are the only mean who have played and coached for a national champion.
Knight's three national titles are tied for third-most, behind John Wooden's 10 and Adolph Rupp's four. Mike Krzyzewski, who played for Knight at Army, also has three titles. Krzyzewski began his college coaching career as a graduate assistant at Indiana under Knight in 1974.
Knight's five Final Four appearances are tied for sixth all-time.
He also coached U.S. teams to gold medals in the 1979 Pan American Games and the 1984 Olympics.
Knight perhaps is as well-known for his temper and behavior as he is for his win total. He was fired at Indiana on Sept. 10, 2000, by then-IU president Myles Brand for what Brand termed a continuing pattern of "defiant and hostile" behavior.
Knight always has taken great pride in the academic achievement of his players, and during his coaching career, which began in 1965 at Army, all but four of his four-year players completed degrees, a ratio of nearly 98 percent.


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Good riddance. Too good to be true. I get this premonition he will pop up someplace else. Let the ESPN suckfest begin.
 

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Good riddance. Too good to be true. I get this premonition he will pop up someplace else. Let the ESPN suckfest begin.

Stinking of nepotism too. Setting up his son, Pat, to coach the last 10 games. Digger Phelps was fawning on Knight already. Yech.

It's Texas Tech we are discussing. Perennial hoops doormat.
 

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Notice Bobby hasn't accomplished anything in the last decade (one Sweet 16 since 1994). Parents stopped wanting their kids to play for this lunatic no matter how much he knew about basketball. Great coach who probably could've been regarded only behind Wooden among college basketball coaches if he kept his head on straight.
 

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Stinking of nepotism too. Setting up his son, Pat, to coach the last 10 games. Digger Phelps was fawning on Knight already. Yech.

It's Texas Tech we are discussing. Perennial hoops doormat.

Yep the claim is that Knight had a verbal promise from the AD to promote his son, but then they changed AD's and of course that verbal went out the window. So Bobby wants to give Pat 10 games to prove himself before the new AD has to decide if he's going to stick with the plan and keep Pat as coach or go another direction.

I liked Rob Parker's comment on First Take today, unless there's a health reason we don't know about, he quit on his team. If a kid on his team quit like this he'd rip the guy to shreds, he should have coached out the year.
 

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Yep the claim is that Knight had a verbal promise from the AD to promote his son, but then they changed AD's and of course that verbal went out the window. So Bobby wants to give Pat 10 games to prove himself before the new AD has to decide if he's going to stick with the plan and keep Pat as coach or go another direction.

I liked Rob Parker's comment on First Take today, unless there's a health reason we don't know about, he quit on his team. If a kid on his team quit like this he'd rip the guy to shreds, he should have coached out the year.



Love it. Wonder if that gets the same play as Petrino.
 

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His contributions to the game should not be overlooked.
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The sad thing is Knight is one of the best coaches in NCAA history but because of his personality and temper people are always going to remember him more for his blowups.

The problem as Mao said is at a certain point recruits just stopped wanting to play for that kind of a coach. There's a difference between being a tough disciplined coach and just being a jerk and Knight crossed way over that line years ago and couldn't go back. The kids he recruited changed over the years untile he could no longer get good talented kids willing to put up with him for 4 years.
 

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Quitter: Knight violates own principles

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Quitter: Knight violates own principles

If he had a clue, The General would be ashamed of himself

February 6, 2008
BY JAY MARIOTTI Sun-Times Columnist

He didn't resign. He didn't retire. Let it be known forever that Bob Knight QUIT on his Texas Tech players, fled with March approaching and his basketball team on the NCAA bubble, ran in a way that would violate his very moral fiber if one of his kids had done the same. As a user of crude, lewd language, he would classify such a quitter as a five-letter term for the female anatomy.

So, what does that make Knight today?
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Bobby Knight, the winningest coach in Division I men's college basketball, quit Monday.
(Sun-Times file)

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How typical -- how sad -- that this would be the exit strategy for the old ogre, a hypocrite who doesn't expect the same qualities from himself that he demands from others. He has been a walking, shouting, cursing contradiction for more than four decades, unable and unwilling to control his ire when he required complete poise and focus from his players. Now, Knight walks away almost as if he fears failure, knowing Tech is ranked 60th in the latest Ratings Percentage Index and needs a strong finish to reach the 64-team tournament. If he was consistent with his own principles, Knight would have viewed the next few weeks as the ultimate challenge. Instead, he imparts one final bad lesson in a maddening career, one that would have gone down among the shiniest in coaching history -- in any sport -- if he didn't harm his legacy with so many tantrums, slurs and stunts.

Tuesday night, Knight appeared on ESPN with analyst Jay Bilas and referenced the q-word in describing his departure. He had no idea he was indicting himself. ``A lot of coaches quit on someone else's thing,'' he said, referring to a firing. ``You're fortunate when you can quit on your own.'' But if he does realize he's quitting, he is too thick-headed to understand how wimpy and weak it makes him look.

Later, he referenced a lyric from his favorite Sinatra song, ``My Way,'' admitting he does have a few regrets. But was it wrapping his hands around the neck of Neil Reed, which led to tensions that prompted his long-overdue dismissal at Indiana? Was it assaulting the police officer in Puerto Rico, throwing the infamous chair, head-butting and shoving and grabbing his players? Was it his comment to Connie Chung about a rape victim -- ``I think that if rape is inevitable, relax and enjoy it'' -- in the context of a chat about referees costing his team? Was it humiliating a referee, stuffing a fan in a hotel trash can? No, Knight's biggest disappointment involved players who -- ready? -- quit his program.

``Do I have regrets? Sure, I have regrets. I regret we had a kid that quit and went somewhere else because he wasn't getting to play or didn't think we were treating him fairly,'' he said. ``You're going to have successes and failures in terms or playing for you.''

Let me get this straight: He regrets that kids quit his program and didn't stick through their problems, yet Knight stops fighting in the 15th round of his career. He also suggests he might coach in the future, which makes his decision more baffling -- and please don't say DePaul or Northwestern should hire him.

Consider it final confirmation that he always has been his own worst enemy. Instead of lauding him as the brilliant teacher and strategist who never broke an NCAA rule, graduated most of his players and gained accolades from virtually all the coaching masters, history will remember him as the counterproductive bully and blowhard who thrust himself into perpetual controversy. ``I don't think there ever has been a better teacher of basketball than Bob,'' said John Wooden, the gold standard of all college coaches. Yet, in the same breath, Wooden makes it clear he didn't always approve of Knight's ``methods.''

If he was beginning his career now, I don't think he would have lasted long in a politically correct world. But Knight could thrive as a tyrant in the latter 20th century in the state of Indiana, where fans wore his trademark red sweater and blindly defended his every misstep and transgression. Millions of Hoosiers served to enable Robert Montgomery Knight, allowing The General to be The General when he was a maddeningly polarizing figure across America. At some point, someone should have attempted to stop the runaway train on an official level. When president Myles Brand tried at Indiana in 2000, with a zero-tolerance edict after the Reed incident, Knight heeded it for all of four months. A student named Kent Harvey yelled ``Hey, Knight, what's up'' on campus, and Knight's response was to twist Harvey's arm and curse at him for not addressing him with more respect.

That's how he left Indiana. Eight years later, he leaves Texas Tech by quitting on a school that was so quick to give him a parachute and new scenery when he generally was shamed in the profession. And don't believe the pap about wanting to give his son, longtime assistant Pat, a chance to be head coach. Does anyone really think Tech has a better chance of making the NCAA tournament with Pat Knight than Bob Knight? Why now?

Because The General couldn't take it anymore. ``I was kind of tired,'' he said. ``This was a tough season in a lot of ways. The time has come here, for me. We had a pretty good run here, not great.'' I wonder how many players have felt ``tired'' after a grueling Knight practice, or in a ``tough'' Knight season, and wanted to quit. Make no mistake, he quit for Bob Knight, not to give Pat a chance. He wasn't joking Tuesday when he took one last swipe at the officiating profession, who can rejoice in the knowledge that referees helped drive him from the game.

``Well, I won't have to see any more bad calls, that'll be one thing," Knight told his longtime confidante, Minneapolis sports columnist Sid Hartman. ``I mean, we had some horrendous officiating in games this year. This year, it just seemed to bother me more than at any other time.''

So he takes his scowl and his bully pulpit and his smart-ass wit and goes home, just before Tech embarks on a difficult stretch that includes a game at much-improved Baylor and another against Kansas-slayer Kansas State. He leaves with 902 wins, an Olympic gold medal and three national titles, but the last one came 21 years ago. He certainly carried himself as a mammoth presence and knew the impact he was making on Americana, yet, in the end, Knight tries to paint himself as merely another guy making a living.

``I'm just a basketball coach,'' he said. ``I didn't work on curing heart disease or work on a cure for cancer or lead a division into a military endeavor that was a tremendous benefit to the United States. I've been a basketball coach.''

Of course, he was much more than that. And with apologies to Sinatra, so much of it was filled with regrets, far more than a few.
 

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Thanks for all the great years Bob. 3 championships speaks for itself. Critics be damned.

Texas Tech University doesn't seem to have a problem with him stepping down at this time - Marrioti is a dweeb.
 

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Parents stopped wanting their kids to play for this lunatic no matter how much he knew about basketball. Great coach who probably could've been regarded only behind Wooden among college basketball coaches if he kept his head on straight.

The parents that really care about education just may disagree with you.......

Knight always has taken great pride in the academic achievement of his players, and during his coaching career, which began in 1965 at Army, all but four of his four-year players completed degrees, a ratio of nearly 98 percent.
 

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yep - knight did a good job at avoiding these high risk talented kids who only wanted to aspire to go to the NBA

instead he stuck to his principles of recruiting less talented kids who were going nowhere so he could graduate them - winning be damned
 

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The parents that really care about education just may disagree with you.......
And the fans who could care less about education (that's what academic and not athletic scholaships are for) who watched Knight go to one Sweet 16 since 1994 disagree with you.
 

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And the fans who could care less about education (that's what academic and not athletic scholaships are for) who watched Knight go to one Sweet 16 since 1994 disagree with you.

Expecting any coach to win deep in the tournament at Texas Tech is borderline delusional.
 

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it's not his fault his last 6 years at Indiana coincided with when early elibility started to take off and players started to leave early - 4 first round exits and 2 in the second are more indicative of the new style player that such high profile basketball tradition rich programs are unable to achieve success

also, as I'm sure you can imagine, it's not easy for a coach with integrity who has established success at a traditional basketball power to even find a job at another tradition rich basketball school and have success - despite what Roy Williams has said

eventually all you can do is go to the middle of no-where in a football crazy state like texas and have marginal success with a non-established school ....... it's inevitable

just look at how guys like john wooden and dean smith ended their tenures and i'm sure guys like Lute, Coach K, Boeheim will eventually get sick of the decades of expectations and move on to places like NM State, Florida State and Sienna to escape the madness of it all
 

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Lute Olson is older than Bob Knight and dealt with an unbelievable amount of player defections and he won a National CHampionship and went to another Final Four in Knight's final six years at IU. Knight stopped winning at IU because parents in the Midwest preferred their kids play for Lon Kruger, Tom Izzo, Dick Bennett or Gene Keady (you know, guys who can win and graduate their players without choking them) not because players started jumping to the NBA early.
 
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I hope you realize i'm being facetious on bobby knight - i think the guy is a great mind, but a fossil with his approach

society has changed and to be competative in intercollegiate athletics you need to change with it - i remember the first kids who left Duke, i thought they were going to get strung up - now it's common occurence and the program has learned to adjust

also kids today don't have the same relationship/reverence of authority or "coach" that they once had ....... you can't be a dick just because you have "coach" in your title

knight repeatedly demonstrated himself as a person who wasn't that great to be around - with TV and internet comes greater exposure for everyone & everything - pretty soon people started to see him for what he is while realizing there are other effective ways to do it

the kids could see a system that they liked better, a coach with a style that was more agreeable, a program that didn't put the coach above all things - regardless of how reckless

knight started to lose his control which only made him more erratic

good coaches who can win will get good jobs at schools with big basketball budgets - the fact knight was toiling at texas tech should tell us about all that we need to know of his relevance to todays game
 

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Speaking of Lute, (don't let Mao read this) I respected him for rebelling against the suffocating fan and media overkill he had at Iowa and throwing it all up and moving to Tucson.

The guy found a better life for him and his family in what was then a small town and built a powerhouse program.

That has always impressed me.
 

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So Bobby Knight is a major turd to the media for 80 years and now he goes on ESPN as an analyst? Garbage.

1)Feel free to wear a suit, jerk.

2) Sit up straight, curmudgeon.
 

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So Bobby Knight is a major turd to the media for 80 years and now he goes on ESPN as an analyst? Garbage.

1)Feel free to wear a suit, jerk.

2) Sit up straight, curmudgeon.

ESPN's janitorial crew must look like a Nascar pit stop during commercial breaks, cleaning up the drool left on the floor by the "Knight licking on the air crew" sitting next to him.
 

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ESPN's janitorial crew must look like a Nascar pit stop during commercial breaks, cleaning up the drool left on the floor by the "Knight licking on the air crew" sitting next to him.

Digger Phelps is an embarrassment to Golden Domers like me. His lip-lock on Knight's anal sphincter is unbearable to watch in public.

I actually don't fault Knight, although he's a slime of a human being, ESPN is the ***** in this relationship. ESPN is abasing itself again by paying Knight to become a commentator.
 

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