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At the end of my Basketball Blog two weeks ago, I wrote about the chain of events that led to Kevin Garnett being traded to Boston. What if the T-Wolves hadn't betrayed KG by quietly shopping him before the 2007 draft? Would Garnett still be stuck in Minnesota? Would he have become the biggest target during the trading frenzy this winter? Did the KG deal create a domino effect that ended up changing the destiny of five 2008 contenders?



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Certainly, it's one of the NBA's great "What ifs?" of this decade? So where does it rank in the top 15? I'm glad I asked. Here's one man's list in reverse order:

15. What if Carlos Boozer never screwed over Cleveland?

This saga becomes more astounding over time: Inexplicably (the version in which you believe Cleveland would just walk away from an option year worth $700,000 and allow Boozer to become a restricted free agent for no good reason) or explicably (the version in which you believe the Cavs made an illegal handshake deal to "forego" Boozer's option year, allow him to become a restricted free agent, then sign him to a $41 million deal), the one thing we know is Boozer used his newfound leverage to sign a six-year deal with Utah for $68 million and screw over Cleveland's benevolent, blind owner in the process.

Look what's happened since:

A. Boozer blossomed into an All-Star power forward and one of the best 20 players in the league, someone who would have been the perfect sidekick for LeBron James.

B. Because Boozer bolted Cleveland, that eventually left the Cavs with a ton of cap space ... and, um ... (take a deep breath, Cavs fans) ... the Larry Hughes, Damon Jones and Donyell Marshall signings. Ouch.

C. Had they kept Boozer and signed Jones as well, the Cavs could have been the first NBA team to start two players with visible chest hair since the 1953 Fort Wayne Pistons.

14. What if Jason Williams never crashed his motorcycle?


SONICS UPDATE
After all the doom and gloom in Seattle, we finally got some good news on the Sonics situation late last week. A group of local investors, headed by Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer, announced a renovation proposal for KeyArena and a bid to buy the team from Clay Bennett.

Our friends at Save Our Sonics are encouraging any readers who live in Washington state to call the legislature at 1-800-562-6000 and offer their support for the arena plan. With the current legislative session ending Thursday, it's imperative to get some sort of deal done in the next week.

It has been so long, I feel like I have to add this disclaimer: We're talking about the Jason Williams from Duke (who later shortened his name to Jay Williams) -- not Jason "White Chocolate" Williams or Jayson "The Guy Accused of Killing A Chauffeur" Williams. Anyway, not a week goes by without some troublemaking reader sending us a "bad" prediction from my archives to make me feel stupid -- at least, I think that's the goal -- and one of the leading "somethings" comes from 2003, when I predicted Williams (the No. 2 pick in 2003) would be a better pro than Yao Ming (the No. 1 pick).

Well, you know what? I was right. I was DEAD right.

A lightning-quick, physical 6-footer who would have been unstoppable after they changed the hand-check rules in 2004, Williams had his moments as a rookie, including the 26-14-13 he slapped on J-Kidd and the Nets. He would have been a stud. There's no doubt in my mind. But Williams stupidly crashed his motorcycle that summer -- I say "stupidly" because there's no acceptable scenario when a professional athlete with a chance to sign a $70 million contract some day should ever own a motorcycle -- and that was that. How did Jay's injury change what transpired with Chicago over the next five years? Imagine Utah only getting one season out of Deron Williams and you have some idea.

(And while we're here, I wasn't sold on Yao for the same reason I'm not sold on any guy taller than 7-foot-2 -- other than Kareem, there's no track record of super-tall guys being able to stay healthy and effective while playing between 82-100 games per season at the NBA level. Bill Walton, Rik Smits, Shawn Bradley, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Tom Burleson, Gheorghe Muresan ... all of those guys had major problems staying on the court, right? It's not a game designed for freakishly tall guys who weigh 300-plus pounds. That's what worried me about Yao, along with the whole "everyone will be going out of their way to dunk on him" thing and all the requisite cultural adjustments. If Williams hadn't bought that freaking motorcycle, I would have been right on this one. So there.)

13b. What if Kevin McHale had taken Chicago's "Godfather" offer for KG before the 2006 draft?

Here was the offer: Tyson Chandler, Luol Deng and the No. 4 overall pick for Garnett.

Now ...

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Imagine Kevin Garnett, right, in Chicago, Jason Kidd, left, in San Antonio and Paul Pierce in L.A. It all could've happened.
Let's say McHale does the deal. And let's say he takes LaMarcus Aldridge with that No. 4 pick. And let's say he takes Brandon Roy at No. 6 and doesn't foolishly swap Roy for Randy Foye (a swap that never made sense, by the way). Suddenly, the T-Wolves have a nucleus of Chandler, Aldridge, Deng and Roy. Wow. And that's not even a stretch. This could have easily happened.

Meanwhile, Chicago would have ended up with Garnett, Kirk Hinrich, Ben Gordon, Andres Nocioni and the typical flood of discount free agents and February buyout guys who follow a guy like KG, and on top of that Garnett would have ignited Chicago as a basketball city just like he ignited Boston (and potentially pushed the Bulls into the NBA Finals in a weak conference last spring). Instead, they gave away Chandler, turned Aldridge into Ty Thomas and wasted all their cap space on Ben Wallace. So, um ... that kind of sucked.

13a. What if McHale had taken G-State's "Godfather" offer for KG during the 2007 draft?

Here was the offer: Monta Ellis, Al Harrington, Andris Biedrins and the No. 8 pick (Brandan Wright) for Garnett.

Now ...

As much as I love Al Jefferson, the T-Wolves would have gotten four starters out of that deal, including a franchise guard (Ellis, suddenly the next Dwyane Wade), an up-and-comer (Wright, suddenly being compared by everyone to Chris Bosh), an athletic rebounder/shot-blocker (Biedrins) and a quality veteran (Harrington). I thought they were crazy for passing up that deal last summer ... but now, with the way Ellis has been lighting it up lately? My God. Do you think Chris Mullin just spends 24 hours a day sighing in relief that the deal never happened? I would. By the way, I'm starting to think McHale might not be a very good GM.

12. What if the Mavs had re-signed Steve Nash in 2005?

I defended Dallas for passing on Nash because (A) he hadn't looked good in the previous two playoffs and (B) $60 million seemed like an obscene amount of money for a 31-year-old point guard with serious back problems. What I didn't defend was Dallas subsequently using that money (and even a little more) to spend $73 million on Erick Dampier. If you're throwing money around, throw it at Nash over a dog like Dampier, right?


MORE WHAT IF'S
Here are five more "What If's" that would've made the cut if they weren't so improbable:

1. What if Shaq and Kobe had been able to juggle their egos and get along in L.A.?

2. What if Darko Milicic had turned out to be a stud for Detroit?

3. What if Grant Hill could have somehow stayed healthy in Orlando?

4. What if Chicago had fired Scott Skiles in 2006 instead of giving Tyson Chandler away and blowing its cap space on Ben Wallace?

5. What if Tim Donaghy had officiated Games 3 and 6 of the 2006 Finals?

To make matters worse, the Mavs made a fatal mistake by underestimating the aforementioned rule changes that transformed Nash into the two-time MVP. Had they kept Nash and Antawn Jamison (sent to Washington for Jerry Stackhouse and the rights to Devin Harris) and still made the semi-brilliant Jason Terry trade, that's suddenly a monster roster: Nash, Nowitzki, Jamison, Terry, Josh Howard, DeSagana Diop, Veteran Free Agent X and February Buyout Guy X year after year after year -- as well as the league's single-most entertaining team.

(One other note: Looking back, it's fascinating Mark Cuban played the "fiscal responsibility" card as his reason for not re-signing Nash, then quickly overpaid for Dampier and started spending more recklessly than ever. Did you know, for the 2007-08 season, Dallas is the only team to spend more than $100 million on its payroll? Incredibly, the Mavs are checking in at $105 million this season, a good $17 million more than the second-place Knicks. I have a great deal of respect for Cuban as a businessman and a thinker, but other than passing on Nash, he has spent the decade making it rain like Pacman Jones -- only coming close to a title in 2006, when the Mavericks were robbed by some incredibly poor officiating -- and now he's stuck with a nine-figure payroll and a static roster that might be quitting on its coach as we speak. We're at the point when the Mavs might need to be reinvented. And soon.)

11. What if Minnesota hadn't ticked off KG during the summer of 2007?

Again, if things hadn't fallen apart with KG and Minnesota last summer, he would have stayed put for a few months (maybe more), opening the door for the following two outcomes:

A. Using many of the assets originally earmarked for the KG deal, Boston could have trumped Los Angeles for Pau Gasol.

B. Without the Lakers stealing Gasol, the Western Conference would have shifted into "No Balls Association" mode. Phoenix wouldn't have rolled the dice with the dangerous Shaq trade, and Dallas wouldn't have rolled the dice by dealing for an aging J-Kidd.

Now, you could argue the Celtics could have just made the KG trade in January or February using the same players. But would the deal have been as effective? Remember, the Celtics signed James Posey and Eddie House at discounts once KG was aboard -- that's not happening without the trade -- and they would have had a near-impossible time pulling off a 6-for-1 deal during the season with the rosters of both teams already filled. Throw in KG's trade kicker, and I just don't see that deal happening until the summer, and by that time the Celtics would have moved on Gasol.

Then, throw in this wrinkle: When Kobe flipped out before the season, there was a stretch when the Lakers were actively shopping him around, only nobody was willing to offer them a package that included an All-Star + cap space + picks. Well, if they hadn't made the Garnett trade, the Celtics could have offered them Paul Pierce, Theo Ratliff's Expiring Contract (so excited I get to write that again!), their 2008 and 2010 No. 1s and the future rights to Minnesota's No. 1 (probably coming to fruition in 2011 or 2012) for Kobe and two relatively unfriendly contracts (Brian Cook and Vlad Radmanovic). The Celtics could have kept a foundation of Kobe, Ray Allen, Jefferson, Kendrick Perkins and Rajon Rondo; the Lakers would have replaced Kobe with another All-Star, gotten three No. 1s (including Minnesota's future pick, which could be valuable) and $20 million of expiring contract with Ratliff and Kwame Brown (already on their roster) to make a run at Garnett, Gasol, Jason Kidd or whomever. Everybody wins.

Did it work out better for everyone the other way? Absolutely. Garnett revived the NBA in Boston; Kobe calmed down and eventually played his best all-around basketball in seven years; the Lakers stole Gasol from Memphis partly because the Grizzlies didn't have any other serious suitors; Phoenix and Dallas panicked and made two of the most controversial trades of the decade; Miami dumped Shaq's contract and kicked off Tankapalooza 2008; Shawn Marion became the first professional athlete in history to seem happy going from a team with a .700 winning percentage to a team with a .200 winning percentage; the new-look Suns struggled as John Hollinger turned into the Bill Maher to Steve Kerr's George W. Bush; and the Lakers and Celtics have a chance to make ABC $325 billion if they end up meeting in the Finals. Just know none of that would have happened if the T-Wolves didn't tick off KG last summer.

10. What if Portland had never signed Theo Ratliff to a three-year, $36 million extension starting with the '06 season?

Imagine life without Theo Ratliff's Expiring Contract? I'm shuddering.

9. What if the Lakers had panicked and traded Kobe before the '07-'08 season?

AP Photo/Mark J. Terrill

Kobe Bryant might get the trophy for most "What If's" involving one player.
By all accounts, the best deal out there was Phoenix's offer of Shawn Marion, Leandro Barbosa and the rights to Atlanta's 2008 pick for Kobe. The Lakers didn't want to trade Kobe to a division rival, so they crossed their fingers and hoped he would calm down long enough for the team to gell. You could say they were showing faith in Phil Jackson's ability to bring Kobe back to the fold, as well as faith in their youngsters (Andrew Bynum, Jordan Farmar, Ronny Turiaf and Sasha Vujacic) to develop into prime-time supporting guys. You could say they had the resolve to keep one of the best three players in the league even though he wasn't happy. Or, you could say they just didn't have the balls to trade him.

Whatever the case, their plan worked, Gasol fell into their laps and now (A) they're one of the leading contenders for the '08 title, (B) Kobe is going to win the '08 MVP because everyone has collectively decided he's winning the award even though we're only at the 60-game mark and Chris Paul is just as valuable (if not more) to an equally good Hornets team, and (C) Mitch Kupchak became the first GM from "The Atrocious GM Summit" to work his way off the panel for "The Atrocious GM Summit II," tentatively scheduled for Isiah Thomas' house in Michigan this summer.

With that said ...

That Phoenix deal would have been a good one for the Lakers. Not as good as keeping Kobe, obviously, but a nice way to salvage a situation that was heading south fast. Could the Lakers have contended with Marion, Odom, Barbosa, Bynum, Derek Fisher and their young guys? What if you added Gasol and Atlanta's pick to that mix? Suddenly the post-Kobe era is in pretty good shape, right? And would the Suns really have been that great with Kobe, Nash (noticeably breaking down this month, although it's unclear if he's banged up or just getting old), Raja Bell (ditto), Amare Stoudemire (and his scary-bad defense), Grant Hill (and his creaky ankles), Boris Diaw (and his creaky ovaries) and that's it? Is that even a top-six team right now?

Anyway, I've written this a million times, but few things drive me crazier than a team refusing to make the best trade possible simply because they'd be sending their star to a rival team. Who cares? Hey, Philly fans, you realize your team could have ended up with Al Jefferson, Rajon Rondo and Boston's 2007 No. 1 pick for Allen Iverson, right? So stupid. (Note: When I'm running the Bucks starting this summer, I'll be making the best deal possible at all times, even if it means I'm sending Michael Redd to Cleveland to dump the Gadzuric/Simmons/Bell contracts for expiring contracts. You have my word on that, people of Milwaukee! I will never be afraid to deal our best player to a rival. Ever. And by the way, YES WE CAN!) So Kupchak deserves to be commended for sticking to his guns and keeping Kobe, but not if he was simply afraid to trade him to a divisional rival ... if that makes sense.

8. What if Ron Artest never went into the stands in Detroit?

Wasn't this the biggest NBA moment of the decade? For anyone who watched it live, it was a surreal TV night right up there with Princess Di's death and Buckwheat's assassination. The clip has been watched and rewatched almost as many times as the Zapruder film; it probably has been removed from YouTube for violating copyright restrictions more than any other NBA-related clip. I wrote two columns about it in one week (here and here); I can't remember another event prompting me to write two takes in 36 hours. Along with the Tim Donaghy scandal and the time Darius Miles gave him a full-body hug during the '99 Draft, it's one of the three most traumatic events of David Stern's reign as commissioner, and it certainly has changed the rules with player-fan interactions over the past three years. From a comedy standpoint, it catapulted both Artest and Stephen Jackson into the Tyson Zone, gave us the phrase "pulling an Artest" for eternity and even gave us a chance to imagine what life would be like if Jermaine O'Neal could punch out Turtle from "Entourage."

If this hadn't happened, the Pacers might've won the 2005 NBA championship.
And then we have these two outcomes:

A. It's quite possible the best team didn't win the 2005 title. When the Artest Melee happened, the Pacers had just finished throttling the Pistons in Detroit and were staking their claim as "The Team To Beat In 2005." In the span of five minutes, everything went down the drain. And if you remember the shoddy '05 Finals when the Spurs beat the Pistons in seven, it's right up there with the '94 Finals on the "Wait, Are We Sure These Were the Best Two Teams?" Scale. There's no way to prove this, obviously, but I'll always believe Indiana had the best team that season. Although maybe the Pacers were destined to eventually self-combust in some way. Who knows?

B. From that moment on, professional basketball was effectively murdered in Indiana. The Pacers have never recovered. Now they have the worst cap situation in the league -- three brutal contracts (Jermaine O'Neal, Troy Murphy and Jamaal Tinsley), one semi-brutal contract (Mike Dunleavy Jr.) and no hope of getting cap space until 2010 at the earliest. Even worse, the fans hated the post-melee team so much the Pacers were forced to give away Harrington and Jackson to Golden State for the Dunleavy/Murphy pu-pu contract platter, putting them in an even worse financial hole. In retrospect, Larry Bird probably feels like Artest and Jackson charged into the stands and started beating the hell out of him. Because that's basically what happened.

7. What if Jason Kidd had accepted San Antonio's $87 million offer during the summer of 2003?

See? Even when you're as savvy as Gregg Popovich and R.C. Buford, you still need a little luck. The Spurs won titles in 2005 and 2007 without Kidd, and you could argue they were one miracle play (Fisher's 3-pointer in 2004) and one stupid play (Manu Ginobili's foul on Dirk Nowitzki) from winning four straight. Assuming they landed Kidd, the Spurs definitely would have dealt Tony Parker that summer or down the road (not a good thing), and they wouldn't have had enough money to pay Ginobili without going over the luxury tax, which they refuse to do (and that's definitely not a good thing). Kidd's personal life also could have screwed up their chemistry to some degree -- remember, his ex-wife was a legendary prima donna in Jersey -- and going from Parker (a congenial guy, by all accounts) to Kidd (moody, by all accounts) could have jeopardized the fragile balance of talent and personality that made San Antonio so great in the first place.

Do the Spurs win more than two titles with Kidd? Do they win less than two? Impossible to say. But here's what we know: I'd rather be spending $30 million on Tony Parker from 2007-2009 than $60 million on a declining Jason Kidd. I'm gonna say Popovich and Buford dodged a bazooka bullet on this one. Since we're here ...

6. What if Tim Duncan had signed with Orlando in 2000 to play with Grant Hill?

And to think, it almost happened. This could have been a humongous "What if?" for three reasons:

A. If Duncan signs with Orlando, that swings the title in three seasons (2003, 2005 and 2007). We haven't had a "What if?" that definitively swung a title yet. Now we do.

B. Once Hill's body breaks down, Duncan finds himself emulating KG's career in Minnesota and squandering his prime on a series of undermanned teams. Those two would have been mirror images of each other -- Duncan wasting away in the East, Garnett wasting away in the West -- and we would have spent those years wondering who was more screwed and who was doing more with less. Bad times all around.

C. With Duncan stealing his spot in Orlando, where would T-Mac have ended up? What if he landed in San Antonio to replace Duncan? And what if they still drafted Ginobili and Parker? Could they have won a title with those three guys and Robinson in 2003? Could they have won one without a big guy? Hmmmmmm.

(Note: I would have ranked this one higher, but it's unclear if Duncan was ever THAT close to signing with Orlando, and after learning more about him these past seven years, it would have been extremely out of character for him to ditch everyone from that '99 title team and chase the money to Florida. I don't see it happening.)

5. What if Kobe had signed with the Clippers in 2004?

Just like the Duncan/Orlando thing, this would have been ranked higher if anyone believed Kobe actually wanted to switch L.A. teams. The Clippers organization fervently believed Kobe was coming because he needed a fresh start with a new franchise -- don't forget, this was the same summer when Kobe was getting blamed by everyone for pushing out Shaq and Phil Jackson -- until he broke their hearts by changing course at the last possible minute. Other than the Lakers offering an extra year (and slightly more money), was anything else offered to help stop Kobe from joining a younger and more talented Clippers team? Are the rumors true that they illegally promised Kobe a piece of the Lakers after he retired? Should we read anything into Kobe being represented by Rob Pelinka, the same guy who represented Boozer during another notorious "wink-wink" arrangement that could never be proven (the Utah/Cleveland debacle)? Were the Lakers afraid to seriously shop Kobe before the '08 season because of something promised during those '04 negotiations? It's all hypothetical, and we'll never know for sure until Kobe retires, and we learn if he earned the Magic Johnson "Ownership Discount" from Dr. Buss. But everyone working for the Clippers feels like something happened to trump their offer beyond the dollar figures. They just don't know what.

Regardless, this was the single biggest moment in Clippers history -- the time they came within a hair of stealing Kobe and completely changing the face of professional basketball in Los Angeles as we know it. The second biggest moment was when they signed Bill Walton away from the Blazers, and he immediately broke his foot 47 different times. The third biggest moment happened in the first round of the 2006 playoffs, when Mike Dunleavy stuck an ice-cold Daniel Ewing on Raja Bell and blew the Clips' one chance at an extended playoff run. The fourth biggest moment was when they lost a deciding Game 5 in 1990 and ESPN Classic showed the game one day. And the fifth biggest moment was when I nearly made my halfcourt shot on "E:60." Not a fun three decades for the Clips in California.

(So, why am I thinking about renewing my season tickets again? Oh, wait, I know ... AL THORNTON! Did you see him take over the double-OT game against Sacramento last week? Oh, wait, you had 530 better things to do on a Wednesday night? My bad.)


4. What if Suns owner Robert Sarver said, "Screw it, I'll pay the luxury tax every year?"


Well, the following three things would have definitely and unquestionably happened: The Suns would have used the No. 7 pick on either Luol Deng or Andre Igoudala in 2004 (instead of unloading that pick to Chicago for $3 million and the No. 21 pick in 2005); they would have used the No. 21 pick on Rajon Rondo in 2006 (instead of selling it to Boston for cash and the No. 27 pick in 2007); and they wouldn't have traded Kurt Thomas to Seattle along with their No. 1s in 2008 and 2010. Some people would throw in the Joe Johnson deal here (Johnson to Atlanta for Boris Diaw and two No. 1s), but that wasn't a luxury tax move; they made an effort to re-sign Johnson and he wanted to leave.

Just for the hell of it, let's give them Igoudala in that '04 draft because he's better than Deng, and they might have taken him anyway. And let's say they don't make the Shaq/Marion trade because they wouldn't have needed to dump Marcus Banks in the deal (they wouldn't have signed him if they had Rondo for one-fourth the price), and besides, they already have Kurt Thomas. Here's your 2008 Suns roster right now: Nash, Barbosa and Rondo as the guards; Igoudala, Hill and Bell at the swing spots; and Stoudemire, Marion, Diaw and Thomas up front ... as well as the rights to their No. 1 and Atlanta's No. 1 in this year's draft.

That's not even a pipe dream or an imagine-if-this-scenario-had-played-out roster. Lemme put this in caps for you, S.A.S.-style: PEOPLE, THAT WOULD BE PHOENIX'S ROSTER IF SARVER PAID THE LUXURY TAX ALL ALONG!!!!! Can you imagine? Is that the greatest 10-man rotation of all-time? Would they have won 75 games? We'll never know. What's tragic about the Suns' current situation is how close they came to being positioned for the short term and long term better than any franchise since the '86 Celtics: They would have been the runaway favorites this season, and they would have been set for an abnormally long time because of their young guys.

(Note to the Phoenix fans: You can now light yourselves on fire.)

3. What if the Knicks had never hired Isiah Thomas?

This could have been its own bizarro "Where Amazing Happens" commercial called "Where Isiah Happens."

(Cue up the annoying piano music that haunts me every time I try to fall asleep after hearing it for five straight months.)

(Picture of the '05 Suns celebrating after a playoff win.)

Where Phoenix dumps the Stephon Marbury and Penny Hardaway contracts on someone and remakes its team into a contender happens.


Where Chicago dumps Eddy Curry for two lottery picks and copious amounts of cap space happens.


Where Toronto finds some dummy to take Jalen Rose's contract and aid its rebuilding process happens.


Where San Antonio dumps Malik Rose's contract for a center who helps them win the title happens.

(Picture of the '08 Blazers celebrating after a last-second win.)

Where the 2008 Blazers become the most likable young team in the league because they found a taker for Zach Randolph happens.

(Picture of a white SUV.)

Where a Truck Party happens.

(Picture of Anucha Browne Sanders celebrating on the courthouse steps.)

Where a humiliating $11 million sexual harassment settlement happens.

(Picture of Curry and Randolph looking overweight.)

Where an NBA frontcourt that includes two C-cups happens.

(Picture of a mostly empty Madison Square Garden.)

Where a 60-year tradition of professional basketball goes down the tubes happens.

(Picture of Isiah sitting on the bench with that frozen, blank look on his face like he's either flatlining or planning to kill everyone on the locker room after the game.)

Where Isiah Happens.

(Follow-up note: Has a GM ever directly altered the fortunes of SIX franchises before? Portland, San Antonio, Phoenix, Toronto, Chicago and New York. That's 20 percent of the league. See if you can top that resume, Chris Wallace!)

2b. What if Atlanta had taken Chris Paul with the No. 2 pick of the 2005 draft?



There are no if's, and's or but's about this: Chris Paul will be haunting the teams that passed on him for years.
We've made more than enough out of this one, although the better Paul plays -- he's going to replace Isiah as the best pure point guard ever at this pace -- it's slowly becoming the poor man's version of Bowie-over-MJ for this generation of basketball fans, a decision that was relatively inexplicable at the time and became between 10-20 times more inexplicable as the years passed. It's safe to say CP3 will be haunting Atlanta fans. All 527 of them. With the supporting talent the Hawks have in place, you couldn't pick a better team for him. You really couldn't.

But here's what we haven't made enough of ...

2a. What if Portland had taken Chris Paul with the No. 3 pick of the 2005 draft?

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh ... you forgot about this one, huh?

On the day of the draft, Portland traded that pick to Utah for the following package: The No. 6 pick (Martell Webster); the No. 27 pick (Linus Kleiza, eventually traded to Denver); and a 2006 No. 1 (which turned out to be the No. 30 pick, Joel Freeland). I'm going out on a limb and saying Portland would love a do-over on this one.

Just for the hell of it, let's say the Blazers took Paul. They're still a lottery team the following season, although probably not as bad, so maybe they end up with Rudy Gay at No. 8 instead of Aldridge at No. 4. They're definitely better in '07, maybe a fringe playoff team, so let's take Oden away from them and give them the No. 12 pick (Thaddeus Young) that year. Which foundation would you rather have if you're a Portland fan?

Scenario A: Oden, Aldridge, Webster, Roy, Travis Outlaw, Jarrett Jack, Joel Przybilla, the rights to Rudy Fernandez.

Scenario B: Paul, Roy, Gay, Outlaw, Przybilla, Jack, Young, the rights to Rudy Fernandez.

Hmmmmmm. Paul and Roy as your backcourt for the next 12 years? Would that have even worked when both guys need the ball in their hands? (Possibly.) Would they have had enough size? (From the looks of it, no.) Would they have played more like a Golden State-type style, and would it have worked? (With the talent on hand, I say yes.) Anyway, if Portland takes Paul, that sets off a crazy chain reaction: New Orleans ends up with Deron Williams instead of Paul; Utah never gets its franchise point guard; Oden and Aldridge land in other cities; maybe Roy doesn't turn into a franchise guard playing second fiddle to Paul; and maybe Paul isn't quite as driven because he's not as ticked off for the next few years after three teams passed on him. I have to say, I like the way it worked out.

1. What if Memphis landed LeBron instead of Cleveland?

Take a trip back to the 2003 lottery with me.

Imagine if LeBron James had ended up in Memphis. We're sure Jerry West can.
We're down to the final two teams. If Memphis draws the No. 2 pick, it goes to Detroit because of the stupid Otis Thorpe trade the Grizzlies made five years before. If the Griz draw No. 1, they get LeBron. Arguably, it's the greatest hit-or-miss moment in the history of professional sports -- like going on "Deal or No Deal," getting down to two suitcases and having a 50/50 chance of winning $500 million. For a few seconds, the cameras show Jerry West, who has the same look on his face Forrest Gump had when he was hooking up with Jenny for the first time. If he had dropped dead right then, nobody would have been surprised.

Well, we know how it turned out: Cleveland got the pick, Memphis got nothing, and eventually, a heartbroken West retired and disappeared off the face of the earth, presumably to spend the next few years playing Russian roulette in Southeast Asia like Chris Walken in "The Deer Hunter." (Sorry to throw consecutive movie references at you, but the situation demanded two of them and that's that.) Now look at this domino effect over the next five years if Memphis gets that pick:

A. Bron-Bron joins a deep Grizzlies team good enough to win 50 games that season without him. Better than starting out on a lottery team with Ricky Davis and Darius Miles, right?

B. Picking second, Cleveland takes Carmelo and builds around him and Boozer. Since Denver's Kiki Vandweghe took Nikoloz Tskitishvili over Amare Stoudemire in 2002, it goes without saying Kiki would have been dumb enough to take Darko at No. 3 over Chris Bosh. The rest of the draft probably unfolds the same way, although Chad Ford still has Macij Lampe going No. 9 to the Knicks.

C. What are the odds LeBron stays in Memphis after his rookie contract ends? I'm going with between 0.000001 and 0.009 percent. And that might be high. That means he would have become a free agent following the 2007 season, leading to the following sub-headings:

C-1. At least eight to 10 teams would have spent the '06 and '07 seasons carving out enough cap space to make a serious run at LeBron.

C-2. You would have read roughly 200 billion words and heard nearly 200 billion words uttered about the previous paragraph. And that's a conservative estimate.

C-3. There's a good chance Marc Stein's head would have exploded at some point from following 35 hot LeBron rumors at once. If it happened on the "Coast To Coast" show on ESPN2 in HD, even better.

C-4. There's no way Isiah would have planned ahead to LeBron being available in '07, inadvertently knocking New York out of the LeBron Sweepstakes and leading to a summer of rioting in the streets of Manhattan the likes of which we haven't seen since the '77 blackout and the Son of Sam murders.

C-5. Jersey would have cut ties with Vince Carter, dealt J-Kidd for cap space and carved out enough room to reunite Bron-Bron with his buddy Jay-Z as the star of the Soon-to-Be Brooklyn Nets. Meanwhile, Orlando would have been throwing Rashard Lewis' money at him and offering him the chance to play with Dwight Howard for the next 10 seasons. Soon-to-Be-Brooklyn and Jay-Z ... or Orlando and D-Ho? Hmmmmm.

C-6. LeBron's departure swiftly kills basketball in Memphis, leading to the Grizzlies eventually moving to England and becoming the London Hooligans. Actually, that could happen anyway.

Final note: In two years, the Soon-To-Be Brooklyn piece of Scenario C-5 could end up being realized. (Sorry, Cleveland. You know it might be coming.) As for everything else in the LeBron/Memphis scenario, it remains the greatest NBA "What If?" of the decade. The good news? We still have 20 months to top it.

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I'm still pissed they gave up a chance at Igoudala, and that one was a Bryan Colangelo move.

Igoudala would have been the easy replacement for Marion, with less complaining at a much lower cost.
 

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4. What if Suns owner Robert Sarver said, "Screw it, I'll pay the luxury tax every year?"


Well, the following three things would have definitely and unquestionably happened: The Suns would have used the No. 7 pick on either Luol Deng or Andre Igoudala in 2004 (instead of unloading that pick to Chicago for $3 million and the No. 21 pick in 2005); they would have used the No. 21 pick on Rajon Rondo in 2006 (instead of selling it to Boston for cash and the No. 27 pick in 2007); and they wouldn't have traded Kurt Thomas to Seattle along with their No. 1s in 2008 and 2010. Some people would throw in the Joe Johnson deal here (Johnson to Atlanta for Boris Diaw and two No. 1s), but that wasn't a luxury tax move; they made an effort to re-sign Johnson and he wanted to lea

Now for a dose of reality.

The Suns were in desperate shape in 2004. Sarver bought the team for 401 million, assuming 200 million in debt. They had missed the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and had only sold out the arena 6 times in 03/04. After buying the team for 401 million. HE THEN IS TOLD BY THE FORMER OWNER'S SON TO GO SPEND ANOTHER 150 MILLION.

That's right. Sarver buys this poorly fiscally managed team for the most money EVER offered for a professional franchise and he's told he needs to go spend another 150 million to make the team a winner. He goes out and spends 100 million (Nash and Q Rich) but balks on spending the 50 million on Joe Johnson.

I really hate the whatif game.
 

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Now for a dose of reality.

The Suns were in desperate shape in 2004. Sarver bought the team for 401 million, assuming 200 million in debt. They had missed the playoffs 2 of the last 3 years and had only sold out the arena 6 times in 03/04. After buying the team for 401 million. HE THEN IS TOLD BY THE FORMER OWNER'S SON TO GO SPEND ANOTHER 150 MILLION.

That's right. Sarver buys this poorly fiscally managed team for the most money EVER offered for a professional franchise and he's told he needs to go spend another 150 million to make the team a winner. He goes out and spends 100 million (Nash and Q Rich) but balks on spending the 50 million on Joe Johnson.

I really hate the whatif game.
The reality is that he wouldn't have been spending $150 million.....at least not up front in 1 year. That money is spread out over 6 seasons so $25 million per year and it was pretty necessary because we dumped Marbury & Penny for nothing. I wish we would've extended Joe Johnson instead of signing Quentin, but that doesn't mean JJ wouldn't have demanded a trade so that he could be "The Man" anyways. As a new owner, he should have understood the average team payroll in the NBA and realized that the Suns were way under that amount when he bought the team. As a businessman, he had to know what he was getting into before offering the most amount of money ever paid for an NBA franchise.
 

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Kobe was never even close to leaving, the whole "TRADE ME" thing was just to get the media spotlight back on the Lakers after the Suns knocked them out in 5 and made them irrelevant.
 

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I have always sensed that the Colangelos felt they screwed up by selling to Sarver. The truth is he really isn't any cheaper than most other NBA owners it just would have been nice if they could have found a guy with deeper pockets to buy the team.

If someone with money like Cuban had bought the team the Suns would be in much better shape right now.
 
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What if Amare never got injured. Surely that would of had to have made Bill Simmons' shortlist
 

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The reality is that he wouldn't have been spending $150 million.....at least not up front in 1 year. That money is spread out over 6 seasons so $25 million per year and it was pretty necessary because we dumped Marbury & Penny for nothing. I wish we would've extended Joe Johnson instead of signing Quentin, but that doesn't mean JJ wouldn't have demanded a trade so that he could be "The Man" anyways. As a new owner, he should have understood the average team payroll in the NBA and realized that the Suns were way under that amount when he bought the team. As a businessman, he had to know what he was getting into before offering the most amount of money ever paid for an NBA franchise.

The AVERAGE payroll in the NBA? Come off it. He was asked to spend 150 million more and told Amare was going to be due a huge contract at the end of the season. You are making it sound like Sarver wanted to go cheap. The guy went from having a team with one of the lowest payrolls when he bough it, to having one of the highest payrolls and struggling with the luxury tax. He wasn't asked to spend the AVERAGE; he was asked to spend MORE than the average and to take risks with that money. (signing Nash for example)

Of course he knew what he was getting into; and he put his money where his mouth was. Too bad all his critics aren't offereing to lend him their crystal ball...
 

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I have always sensed that the Colangelos felt they screwed up by selling to Sarver. The truth is he really isn't any cheaper than most other NBA owners it just would have been nice if they could have found a guy with deeper pockets to buy the team.

If someone with money like Cuban had bought the team the Suns would be in much better shape right now.

Yeah because the Colangelos did a fantastic job! I mean it was really smart to throw all that money at Danny Manning, Stephon Marbury, Penny Hardaway, Googs....

It's amazing how people forget that Jerry had 20+ years to win a title and failed. If we make it to the finals this year or next, Sarver will have accomplished more for the Suns in 5 years than Jerry did in 40.
 

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Yeah because the Colangelos did a fantastic job! I mean it was really smart to throw all that money at Danny Manning, Stephon Marbury, Penny Hardaway, Googs....

It's amazing how people forget that Jerry had 20+ years to win a title and failed. If we make it to the finals this year or next, Sarver will have accomplished more for the Suns in 5 years than Jerry did in 40.

At least they didn't sell their draft picks.
 

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Yeah because the Colangelos did a fantastic job! I mean it was really smart to throw all that money at Danny Manning, Stephon Marbury, Penny Hardaway, Googs....

It's amazing how people forget that Jerry had 20+ years to win a title and failed. If we make it to the finals this year or next, Sarver will have accomplished more for the Suns in 5 years than Jerry did in 40.

The Suns have one of the highest winning percentages of any team in professional sports. And "Jerry" was at the helm for most of it.
 

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The Suns have one of the highest winning percentages of any team in professional sports. And "Jerry" was at the helm for most of it.

No kidding. With all the bad penny pinching owners who don't care about their teams or just wanted to turn a buck...he trashes JC?? I would rather have an owner who tries and fails then an owner who doesn't try, pockets dough and just doesn't care. Give me a freaking break.
 

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Truly awesome work!

We miscalculated in the draft and thought Iggy would ahve been gone by #7. Since it's the only year for us with serious cap space for FAs, we wanted to reserve it for Kobe or Nash + someone. That Someone was targeted as Okur and Turkoglu first, but we did n't like their price tags and went for Q. After that, the only good signing was Bell. Our system was entertaining but we didn't have enough, partially due to Sarver's attitude partially due to DA's refusal to play more than 7 men or anyone without deer-like speed such as Kurt.

But we have a complete roster now to play the best hybrid of ball and the only obtacle for a title is DA's stubbornness of only playing extremely short rotation.
 

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I weep at what we have given away in the last 4 years.

All we can do is hope it turns out for the best.
 

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Kind of a waste of time to get too worked over this sort of thing. What if Jerry calls "heads" instead of "tails" (or would it be the other way around?) and the Suns get Kareem? You can play 'what if' games all day long in sports, but you'll just give yourself an ulcer, and its best to avoid that.
 

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At least they didn't sell their draft picks.
Actually it's another beautiful "what if?" story. The Colangelos did gave away 2 picks to Utah to get rid of Gugliotta expiring contract (instead of buying him out) and facilitate the sale to Sarver.

These picks were Knicks picks acquired in the Marbury trade.

The first one was the 16th pick of the 2004 draft. Pick 17 : Josh Smith, pick 18 : JR Smith, pick 19 : Dorell Wright, pick 26 : Kevin Martin :bang:

The other pick is a first rounder, top 20-something protected 'til 2010 (yes, that's six-years protection. Even Isiah Thomas knows you need to protect picks). Over/under on that pick slot in 2010 ? I'd say 7. And I'd take the under. :bang:
 
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will someone PLEASE forward this article to Mr. Sarver...


-Thank you
 

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That got me worked up as well, but one has to remember that if what "didn't" happen are variables, then so are what "did."

Nash could have re-signed with Dallas. Or, conceivably he could have spent his whole career as a Sun, and never turned out as a multiple MVP. If it's a matter of luck, we lucked out with Amare. It was a great pick, but a number of the players drafted around him were PF's and PF/C's, so Amare falls into those teams' what-ifs. Plus, the way draft picks worked out elsewhere are not necessarily how they would have worked out anywhere.

Let's go back to the real what-if. What if Paxson's shot hadn't gone in. There, that's torture I'm used to. :(
 

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