Avatar: Fire and Ash (aka Avatar 3)

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Lol... I am an avowed movie box office nerd, especially with this franchise. even though I really enjoyed the experience the first two movies and thought the third was good enough, their off the charts success has always been a bit baffling/fascinating to me.
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Only -37% for WOW. Not too shabby for week 3. It's staying pretty steady and holding. At this point I'm guess that it'll hit its break even point.
 

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Only -37% for WOW. Not too shabby for week 3. It's staying pretty steady and holding. At this point I'm guess that it'll hit its break even point.
that's a pretty solid hold, but I expected a little better during the holiday season (see the holds for everything else - Zoo2 went up 19%, Housemaid down just 12%) and it's just nowhere near what the first two movies did when Avatar 1 dropped only like 2% in weekend 3 and 2 went up 3% in weekend 3.

Still think it tops out at 400-450 million domestic and probably between 1.5-1.7 billion bucks which will make it profitable and if it reaches the higher end, it'll give Avatar 3 of the top 10 worldwide grossers ever.

But it's also looking like significant diminishing returns the longer the series gets stretched, and with the budgets likely staying at the same levels, profitability's gonna get thin fast (like next movie fast) if each flick is looking at losing a 1/3 of it's worldwide audience with every film.
 

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that's a pretty solid hold, but I expected a little better during the holiday season (see the holds for everything else - Zoo2 went up 19%, Housemaid down just 12%) and it's just nowhere near what the first two movies did when Avatar 1 dropped only like 2% in weekend 3 and 2 went up 3% in weekend 3.

Still think it tops out at 400-450 million domestic and probably between 1.5-1.7 billion bucks which will make it profitable and if it reaches the higher end, it'll give Avatar 3 of the top 10 worldwide grossers ever.

But it's also looking like significant diminishing returns the longer the series gets stretched, and with the budgets likely staying at the same levels, profitability's gonna get thin fast (like next movie fast) if each flick is looking at losing a 1/3 of it's worldwide audience with every film.
Yeah, I was thinking 4 might have a tough time getting to profitability with the series trend and budgets. It wouldn't surprise me for it to have a higher budget than 3 due to the way costs are going.
 

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The numbers are good but below the performance from the other films. I have not seen this yet. I have gotten less enthusiastic with each release. I might go see this in 3D this weekend but I am not dying to see this movie. I read somewhere that even Cameron is sort of ambivalent. He seemed to be OK with moving on if this movie doesn't live up to expectations.
 

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The numbers are good but below the performance from the other films. I have not seen this yet. I have gotten less enthusiastic with each release. I might go see this in 3D this weekend but I am not dying to see this movie. I read somewhere that even Cameron is sort of ambivalent. He seemed to be OK with moving on if this movie doesn't live up to expectations.
Too late. They are most definitely going to do at least another movie. Whether Cameron will direct it is another matter. I think that's the scenario we can hope for is that he hands the reins over to a protege and then starts doing other things.

And to be fair, the 3rd movie is better than the 2nd movie. IMO.
 

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Too late. They are most definitely going to do at least another movie. Whether Cameron will direct it is another matter. I think that's the scenario we can hope for is that he hands the reins over to a protege and then starts doing other things.

And to be fair, the 3rd movie is better than the 2nd movie. IMO.
Not shocking. It was Cameron's ambivalence that struck me. Sounds like he sort of feels like it could be losing some steam. One of the first interviews I heard from him I think he was stalking about 6 movies or something he wanted to do if I remember correctly? Maybe I am remembering that wrong.
 

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Here’s my six word Avatar 3 review:

Please make something else, Jim.

So true. My daughter dragged us all out to watch this over the break. She loved it. Wife, son and myself were looking at our watches waiting for the movie to end. Felt like James got inspiration from The Walking Dead. Same story over and over. Except, at least the walking dead changes the main bad guy each season.
 

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