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As both a Michigan and ASU fan, this was a no losing proposition for me. I would have been happy with either outcome. Dillingham has his positives and negatives, but I suspect ASU needs him more than Michigan does.

My only worry would be if he got too comfortable at ASU, and correspondingly, too complacent. In this era of college football, you have to continually grind every off season in a way you never did before, because all of the recent changes (and the money involved) have made what was previously an absurdly competitive environment into one that is utterly cutthroat.
UGH.

It was nearly 39 years ago since my uncle and I and a bunch of his buddies watched ASU beat Michigan in the 1987 Rose Bowl, 22-15.

Whiny QB Jim Harbaugh complained about the crowd noise because the Devils fans made it a home game. Go Devils !!

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Kenny played the system well, and Michigan waited too long to offer the job because it was so focused on DeBoer.
Kenny didn’t “play” any system. That’s not who he is and that’s 100% not what occurred here.
Playing the system would’ve been Kenny leveraging Michigan for his own betterment.
This was about who has achieved a great deal of success in his short stint as head coach, who is from the Valley and has stated time and time again, his desire to remain in the valley.
The $$ to Kenny, if I’m reading it right, is a slight increase over his current compensation.

This was about Michael Crow finally stepping and making a commitment to the program. To Kenny too, but much more so and much more importantly, to the program.
 

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I actually see Kenny never leaving ASU for another college job, regardless of the school. I think he's actually going to get offered an NFL HC gig in the next 3-5 years. He's doing a better job of running ASU like a professional program than the previous HC who was an actual professional HC.
CKD’s family are longtime, big Cardinals fans, and CKD himself has been a Cards fan all his life. I could see him taking that job down the road, whenever he tires of NIL, etc. Hopefully not anytime soon.
 

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Kenny didn’t “play” any system. That’s not who he is and that’s 100% not what occurred here.
Playing the system would’ve been Kenny leveraging Michigan for his own betterment.
This was about who has achieved a great deal of success in his short stint as head coach, who is from the Valley and has stated time and time again, his desire to remain in the valley.
The $$ to Kenny, if I’m reading it right, is a slight increase over his current compensation.

This was about Michael Crow finally stepping and making a commitment to the program. To Kenny too, but much more so and much more importantly, to the program.
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UGH.

It was nearly 39 years ago since my uncle and I and a bunch of his buddies watched ASU beat Michigan in the 1987 Rose Bowl, 22-15.

Whiny QB Jim Harbaugh complained about the crowd noise because the Devils fans made it a home game. Go Devils !!

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I've experienced some great moments under Frank Kush, Bobby Winkles, Ned Wulk and now Kenny Dillingham.

We are the program.

In Sun Devil Stadium I've seen the Sun Devils beat two #1 ranked teams in USC and Nebraska.

With a break, ASU could have well beat Texas in the playoffs last season.
 

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How do we, in current college football climate, define “sleeping giant”?
That's a good question. I'm not sure... I really never hear that term applied to any college football program OTHER than ASU. Nobody ever says Stanford or Michigan State or North Carolina are "sleeping giants."

Maybe North Carolina would qualify as they are a large state university program with lots of resources that generally underachieves in terms of results. I suppose Texas Tech might have been another case until they started getting big NIL money.

Maybe Colorado could be, too, as they had some big success in the past but are having very hard times now. I can't think of many other situations analogous to ASU, though.
 

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I feel like a lot of the "sleeping giant" stuff around ASU has had a lot to do with our location. We're sitting right in between California and Texas while also being close to Nevada AND increasing in population over the years, which numbers could dictate means more top Arizona athletes (which has come to fruition over the years).

Problem was that we have rarely been able to keep the top athletes at home and never being consistently good enough to lure those top Cali/Texas recruits away from the USCs and Texas'. In addition to admin not seeming to want to put the money into the football program that other top schools do.
 

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I feel like a lot of the "sleeping giant" stuff around ASU has had a lot to do with our location. We're sitting right in between California and Texas while also being close to Nevada AND increasing in population over the years, which numbers could dictate means more top Arizona athletes (which has come to fruition over the years).

Problem was that we have rarely been able to keep the top athletes at home and never being consistently good enough to lure those top Cali/Texas recruits away from the USCs and Texas'. In addition to admin not seeming to want to put the money into the football program that other top schools do.
It's really not true that Arizona has a lot of top football talent. I mean it's better than the 90a or 80s but still has a long way to go.

Although it is true that the instate schools are not doing well keeping what talent we do have. This past year AZ had only 4 four star recruits, no five stars, and didn't keep any of them.


Arizona has had only 4 five star recruits in the last six years.



You compare that to a state like Louisiana, which has half our population, and it's not good at all. Which is why ASU has to hit California and Texas hard and always has. And, you are right, the competition is much tougher there but the talent pool is so much deeper it is still better to get #300 in Texas than #50 in Arizona.
 

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I have more often heard that in reference to ASU basketball. ASU football was arguably very much awake during some of the Rogers, Cooper, Snyder, and even Graham years.
Yeah, football has a little bit better history than basketball. But reciting those names doesn't exactly resonate with glory. Cooper won a Rose Bowl. But he was at ASU for only three seasons and promptly went to Ohio St. Snyder had that magical year, and another good one after, but couldn't sustain it. Graham? Come on. Let's shoot for more than a few winning seasons.
 

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Yeah, those guys never woke the giant. I times I remember that phrase with them was in the form of a question on if they could wake it. None of them did though. I think Cooper could have if he hadn't jumped ship but Snyder and Graham weren't close to do it. It's not 1 or 2 good seasons.
 

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That head coach, Frank Kush, was pretty good. He compiled a 176–54–1 record with ASU.
 
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