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Another example with it. I'm using the online Turbo tax to do a mock return. I have to get mine done professionally but I'm doing it as a mock just to have an idea what I'll get. The online version is AI "powered" and quite different than the desktop version.

The good: you can quite easily upload docs if you have a PDF of it on your computer you just upload and it takes the information. The bad: it is TERRIBLE at doing it. I had one document where it insisted the amount in box XX is incorrect it can't be higher than the total amount of the distribution. When I checked, it had taken the tax ID # of Vanguard and put it in a box where a dollar amount goes. Different document it said the zipcode was incorrect, it had taken a WI for Wisconsin and recorded it as TX for Texas and was telling me there was no such zip in Texas.

I haven't used the desktop version for this year it may in fact have the same AI interface if it does probably the same results. But if you use Turbo Tax be aware I've only uploaded 6 documents to it and it made errors on 4 of the 6. I can't recall the last time just normal Turbo Tax made an error with me uploading. I didn't just connect directly because I had a soft copy of the docs on my desktop already so maybe it's better if you let it do it that way.
I guess to be fair I'm assuming the problem is the AI not just Turbo Tax because it's always worked well before
Error on 75% of the work...
wow, I am continually amazed at how well they have AI mimicking real life.
another five years or so,...the Turbo Tax tax preparing AI...it will create a separate account attached to some prepaid Visas,...skim 10 cents off of every return done with their software,...then transfer it to the Caymans.
 

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I just got word our entire division will be fighting for it's life in 2026. They are looking for AI to take over many jobs that are focused on analytics, processes and positions like "Scrum Masters". One of our other divisions didn't lay them off but announced they are phasing out the position. Meaning as people leave they won't back fill and anybody that remains will be "transitioned" to new roles. This is the most worried I have been about my job since 2007-2009 time frame. I honestly don't know if I will survive this one. I have started reaching out for opportunities for the first time in almost 2 decades. Many of my peers are in pure panic mode and doing the same. Looks like that will be the trend in 2026.

man that suxx dude...
I hope you have prepared... many folks hit that "second career" phase in life..although it suxx that it isnt a planned transition.

Couple years back I honestly considered becoming a "Bud Tender"
the entire concept made me laugh..but I had a "full circle" kind of moment.....Left here back in 85 because of limited opportunities...to come back 40 years later and get work selling weed, lol....it just seemed like I never left at all,...everything I had done was pointless if thats where I landed...I could have just stayed here and sold weed. so being a Longhair Metalhead slinging joints for a living...was like nothing since 85 had actually happened...because I was right in the same spot doing exactly the same thing.
some folks say its all about the journey and not the destination. But if at the end of the trip you are right in the same cesspool as you were on day one does it really matter if you spent decades swimming in circles?


crap, sorry dude..I just woke up

this took a hard left turn somewhere
 

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Wells Fargo has an AI assistant that doesn't quite work right.

I noticed a bubble on it indicating it had a message for me so I clicked and it said your spending has gone way up, 92% in October and way up in January.

Took me a few minutes to figure out what the heck it was. I have a special savings account where I get 3.5%, to renew it I had to deposit at least 20K in new money, which I did in October, and then again in January to extend it. So I took money from Capital ONe, into my primary checking account, and then moved it from that account in WF into my savings account in WF.

and for some reason the AI assistant thinks I "spent" that money instead of just transferring it between accounts
 

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Per a Stanford research study, on average Software developers now spend 11 hours per week correcting errors made by AI writing code, almost always just "hallucinations". The average numbers of errors in a section of code is over 10 compared to 6 by people, and the errors take longer to find and correct because they look legit but are completely fake.

The bigger problem is people, because people used to do the basic code and it's now done by AI, there are far less "junior" developers, if there are no juniors, in 5 years who will be senior developers? if AI doesn't work as well as projected, massive problem.

One example given an AI was told to delete a cache, misread it, and deleted the entire root directory, months of work, without asking for permission. After it was done the AI admitted it had made a massive mistake.

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I watched the video. I have seen tons of fan videos as of late changing movies and using likenesses. We are not talking about original works or parody either. Some of them blur the line by using likenesses with original content. Seems to me there needs to be clearer lines and I have been wondering when this would explode.

 
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Dorsey lays off HALF of it's employees because of AI. Predicts that most companies will follow. I believe it because their stock immediately jumped 24% because of the expenses saved. Many corporations are going to see that as a huge boon for investors.

I don't buy his excuse. At least not fully. He's using AI as cover for bad buisness decisions.
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I don't buy his excuse. At least not fully. He's using AI as cover for bad buisness decisions.
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There definitely could be something to his losing his butt in Crypto if is true. On the flipside, he hardly is the only company doing mass layoffs because of AI. Maybe it's a combo of both?
 

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There definitely could be something to his losing his butt in Crypto if is true. On the flipside, he hardly is the only company doing mass layoffs because of AI. Maybe it's a combo of both?
I think AI's a small part of it but the majority of it is due to those two posts. Dorsey's companies seem to always be extremely bloated when it comes to staff. We've seen it with other companies of his and what I've heard through friends that have worked a different ones. This is most likely cutting them back to the headcount that they actually need to run the business and then they're looking at AI to take the place of growing the headcount again.
 
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I think AI's a small part of it but the majority of it is due to those two posts. Dorsey's companies seem to always be extremely bloated when it comes to staff. We've seen it with other companies of his and what I've heard through friends that have worked a different ones. This is most likely cutting them back to the headcount that they actually need to run the business and then they're looking at AI to take the place of growing the headcount again.
I am not so sure that Twitter was over bloated at the time he sold it. Seeing how they ended up having all those outages, then lost a record amount of revenue as a result? I don't think that holds up to that Tweet. Elon might have thinned out the company eventually but that was after hiring a ton of people after he fired a ton of people to completely reorganize Twitter. He had to leverage his AI company to get investors to save it.

Even today, Twitter isn't the same. They have dropped out of the top 10 Social media companies, and it's never been able to get back in. I think at one point Twitter was #5 in the rankings and last time I checked they were #15 or something like that in users. That was even before the political crud.
 
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Look at this. It appears some companies are figuring out you need a human component for AI Afterall. As Agentic AI is being deployed, they are figuring out they need teams of people to evaluate output. It still largely fails at understanding context. We have experienced this as well when trying to generate customer responses. Interesting though. I wonder if our ORG does something similar.

 

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I am not so sure that Twitter was over bloated at the time he sold it. Seeing how they ended up having all those outages, then lost a record amount of revenue as a result? I don't think that holds up to that Tweet. Elon might have thinned out the company eventually but that was after hiring a ton of people after he fired a ton of people to completely reorganize Twitter. He had to leverage his AI company to get investors to save it.

Even today, Twitter isn't the same. They have dropped out of the top 10 Social media companies, and it's never been able to get back in. I think at one point Twitter was #5 in the rankings and last time I checked they were #15 or something like that in users. That was even before the political crud.
Just because Elon over cut doesn't mean it wasn't bloated. They had so many useless people at that company coasting by. If you're 10 pounds overweight than it's good to lose the 10 lbs, not so good to lose 40.

Twitter's drop in rankings isn't just due to the cuts either. It mainly has to do with Elon's character driving people off and causing a couple major competitors to come out.
 
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Just because Elon over cut doesn't mean it wasn't bloated. They had so many useless people at that company coasting by. If you're 10 pounds overweight than it's good to lose the 10 lbs, not so good to lose 40.

Twitter's drop in rankings isn't just due to the cuts either. It mainly has to do with Elon's character driving people off and causing a couple major competitors to come out.
Fair enough but I would say all the trouble that followed proved it at the very least wasn't as bloated as he thought. Plus, X to this day has not recovered from those cuts. Those numbers started dropping before Elon went full MAGA. His goal was to cut what 80% of the workforce including the teams that handled advertising and who serviced those partners. Now add in the outages. That's crazy! Again, I am sure the reorg made things more efficient eventually. I have never worked for a company that didn't have that kind of "bloat". Seems universal for any corporation.
 
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And the down side of AI reliance with untrained people

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Dorsey lays off HALF of it's employees because of AI. Predicts that most companies will follow. I believe it because their stock immediately jumped 24% because of the expenses saved. Many corporations are going to see that as a huge boon for investors.

Good article from another someone who was a former leader at Block. He's saying what I've been thinking and saying for a bit now. Most of these layoffs aren't due to AI, and the data shows that, it's due to companies getting too fat during zirp and now they're right-sizing while using AI as cover.

Every time I see these big layoffs the majority of the people are coming from outside of engineering which is the part of the company that AI works best in right now. AI coding is way ahead of what it can do for these other rolls. What we're seeing are the engineers getting more productive and not being let go in mass. The engineering cuts are usually the dead weight guys that they've been looking for an excuse to get rid of it. At this point I'm not as concerned of AI causing engineers to get fired as I once was. My bigger question now is if rolls will be refilled as people leave since the other people are now more productive. I guess that'll probably depend on if the company's management is in a maintain or growth mindset

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Good article from another someone who was a former leader at Block. He's saying what I've been thinking and saying for a bit now. Most of these layoffs aren't due to AI, and the data shows that, it's due to companies getting too fat during zirp and now they're right-sizing while using AI as cover.

Every time I see these big layoffs the majority of the people are coming from outside of engineering which is the part of the company that AI works best in right now. AI coding is way ahead of what it can do for these other rolls. What we're seeing are the engineers getting more productive and not being let go in mass. The engineering cuts are usually the dead weight guys that they've been looking for an excuse to get rid of it. At this point I'm not as concerned of AI causing engineers to get fired as I once was. My bigger question now is if rolls will be refilled as people leave since the other people are now more productive. I guess that'll probably depend on if the company's management is in a maintain or growth mindset

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Good article but I know a bunch of analysts jobs that have and are going away because of AI. I have see lots of engineers get let go at our company already but it’s not just their jobs. We are letting go of another batch of employees in March that are analysts/BSCs. We are directly replacing agents at our call centers because of AI. Our company is basically spreading out the layoffs over the course of the next few quarters verses doing a mass layoff like some of the tech companies. It tends to hit the press softer and we know other companies are taking the same approach.

I am seeing stuff I used to do 5 years ago become automated. Many of my peers were laid off with their entire teams since last year. I lost my team but I am hanging on. I am the last of my team at my location which is why I don’t think I am long for this job. I am an executive without a team and now an individual contributor which makes me nervous as heck. I think the only thing that is delaying me being laid off is I am in charge of some things they can’t take the human equation out of yet.

Also, I am going to try and find this article that I read a few weeks ago. It actually touches base on the idea above but talks about how many of these layoffs and future layoffs are not just about directly replacing jobs but a result of AI making efficiency gains more easy to execute on as well. What might have been more complex changes to become efficient in the past are no longer complex. So many of these layoffs cannot be simplified down to direct job replacement by AI but still driven by AI. It’s exactly what I think we are seeing at least where I work.
 
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Interesting. Anthropic maps out which jobs will likely be replaced by AI. I wonder if this was produced using AI. :D The research introduces what it calls “observed exposure” — a new metric that compares theoretical AI capability against real-world usage data.

10 most Exposed Occupations:
  1. Computer programmers – 75% coverage
  2. Customer service representatives – 70%
  3. Data entry keyers – 67%
  4. Medical record specialists – 67%
  5. Market research analysts & marketing specialists – 65%
  6. Sales representatives – 63%
  7. Financial & investment analysts – 57%
  8. Software quality assurance analysts – 52%
  9. Information security analysts – 49%
  10. Computer user support specialists – 47%


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