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GimmedaBall

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We are in a Brave New World with AI showing up everywhere---even on fan forums regarding terrible football teams. Some thoughts on using AI here . . . .

Information is collected with very little source verification. That was true back when the first caveman drew pictures of prey animals on rock walls. In our modern world of information overload, it is impossible. Just having a ‘source’ is no assurance that the ‘source’ is valid. AI narratives are becoming better at including their 'source.' What we don't know is how much AI was used to compose the source that is being cited. We are so eager for an answer that any answer will do. We assume that we are in the right location to stick a spear in that bison. We saw it painted on the wall, didn’t we?

Here’s the best-case scenario: AI is just a step on the evolution leading to biochips embedded and fully integrated in the brain of every human moments after the umbilical cord is cut. All the world’s knowledge and trivia will be accessible via thought. Research will not be necessary: just a download at the brainstem center to get the latest update.

Here’s the worst-case scenario: AI evolves to the point where it is fully self-aware and appreciates that humans are unnecessary for its own survival. The ‘Singularity’ refers to the point where AI surpasses human intelligence and can improve itself better than humans can. So much for all humans getting a biochip with all the knowledge of the World. Humans will be lucky to get a biochip to sweep up around the AI center. AI will just terminate the failed biological human experiment and go with robots to accomplish the mechanics of mining necessary metals for AI centers. Of course, AI had better put in a ‘kill switch’ in those robots before they become self-aware.

Using AI in its early stages is simply helping AI accumulate the database on the human race that it will need to make that termination decision. Everything exchanged on the Net is going into the AI witch’s brew. Meanwhile, we will look up those stats on our favorite terrible football team.
 
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Thanks Stout, for giving my post a read. You do realize AI now has you on the 'Subversive' list when the Singularity arrives. LOL.

Wonder how many teams employed AI in developing their draft board? Wonder how many will be using along the sidelines for game-time decisions?

(I should have used AI to answer the above question before posting: Yes, AI is moving into the NFL draft room:

 
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Here's my thing as long as you are somewhat skeptical it's useful. But we already know people aren't skeptical they believe whatever they read. I will say that's not true, it's over 30 years ago now but absolute 100% true story a kid made I think the Parade All America football team as an offensive linemen, complete with glowing reports from noted HS football scouts of the day. And the kid DID NOT EXIST! Someone made him up, kept going on usenet and early web forums and posting about him, people picked up the name and just pretended they'd seen him.

I don't think it was ASFN but a precursor of it and again long time ago but we had a guy on there arguing a point and he cited an article to vouch for him. I clicked on the article, read it, then looked up the author, rolled my eyes and then went on the board and pointed out he had just cited an article HE wrote, without admitting he wrote it, to support a point he was making.

AI does make things up, I posted an AI thing a few months ago and then looking more figured out the stats it mentioned were wrong, and I corrected it myself.

We live in a world for a significant percentage of Americans don't think we should teach Arabic numerals. Ai is not the problem
 

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One huge problem is that AI scrapes the internet to provide replies, so absolutely incorrect information gets aggregated into something that's easy to read, and makes sense. The concept of people asking on X "Grok, is this true," is funny as a meme, but scary, because people will believe that the AI platform is the arbiter of truth, over valid reporting.

Heck, even I just wrote a post about Carson Beck's history, and I took roughly 30 minutes to do my best verifying sources, reporting, and even watching his girlfriend and others' "content" to make sure I had it right... and I might have something wrong, or missed nuance, but AI will index my post on this very board and use it as complete truth.

It's so much easier to Google "Carson Beck controversy," get an AI summary, and then never question if it's wrong.

I'm not sure we're ever going to emerge from how much this is affecting critical thinking about sources, not just in football, but elsewhere.
 

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One huge problem is that AI scrapes the internet to provide replies, so absolutely incorrect information gets aggregated into something that's easy to read, and makes sense. The concept of people asking on X "Grok, is this true," is funny as a meme, but scary, because people will believe that the AI platform is the arbiter of truth, over valid reporting.

Heck, even I just wrote a post about Carson Beck's history, and I took roughly 30 minutes to do my best verifying sources, reporting, and even watching his girlfriend and others' "content" to make sure I had it right... and I might have something wrong, or missed nuance, but AI will index my post on this very board and use it as complete truth.

It's so much easier to Google "Carson Beck controversy," get an AI summary, and then never question if it's wrong.

I'm not sure we're ever going to emerge from how much this is affecting critical thinking about sources, not just in football, but elsewhere.

There's people that look at that something like 75% of new content on the web now is AI generated and the next AI finds that and compounds on it.

That said if AI is linking a CBS news story I think we can assume it's real. If it's some random guy from bleacher report, maybe not.
 

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There's people that look at that something like 75% of new content on the web now is AI generated and the next AI finds that and compounds on it.

That said if AI is linking a CBS news story I think we can assume it's real. If it's some random guy from bleacher report, maybe not.
Sheesh, we'd slightly disagree, I trust CBS just as much as Bleacher Report at this point, given leadership changes.

Everything is a content or click farm, we're rapidly moving away from ethics mattering. But as I think I've said in maybe my last three-five replies across threads on here, I'm getting a little too close to the Politics and Religion line here.
 

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There was just something, and forgive me for not knowing where it is, but someone trolled the medical journals by writing an obvious fake medical paper with authors like Darth Vader and so on and so forth about some made up disease and everything.

AI scraped it, and the medical journals published it without even reading it!

Let me see if I can find it.

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Thanks Stout, for giving my post a read. You do realize AI now has you on the 'Subversive' list when the Singularity arrives. LOL.

Wonder how many teams employed AI in developing their draft board? Wonder how many will be using along the sidelines for game-time decisions?

(I should have used AI to answer the above question before posting: Yes, AI is moving into the NFL draft room:

AI is giving Stout a tennis elbow. It's called a Tim Teblow. Lmao
 

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AY has achieved its goal of becoming as near human as possible. The work they have done on football forums proves it.
How do we know?? Because even with all the information in the world available...
they still get the conclusion totally wrong.
 
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Check out the classic 1968 S. Kubrick movie '2001: A Space Odyssey.' Among the many themes, the onboard computer Hal becomes self-aware and takes control to stop from being 'unplugged.' With AI, we're not going to be so lucky.

It is now in 4K UHD. Curious to see how those who grew up with Star Wars, etc and now Guardians of the Galaxy will appreciate this movie, if at all.
 

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Check out the classic 1968 S. Kubrick movie '2001: A Space Odyssey.' Among the many themes, the onboard computer Hal becomes self-aware and takes control to stop from being 'unplugged.' With AI, we're not going to be so lucky.

It is now in 4K UHD. Curious to see how those who grew up with Star Wars, etc and now Guardians of the Galaxy will appreciate this movie, if at all.
Don't forget ROK in the classic Airplane II...;)
 

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Suggest moving this to tech or PR, we have other similar discussions
 

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If not political, just merge with the existing AI thread in this very sub-forum.
 
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