Anderson Elevated to 2nd String RB

[Crimson Warrior]

Emmitt will start the entire season. And he'll produce. 1000 to 1200 yards.

Hey guys... just got back after a week in margartaville. all I can say about Kendall is wow.

Anyway, its difficult to predict anything for the run game right now with the oline in transition.

However, I agree with Stout that scobey won't be starting anytime soon. He is a nice kickoff return man, but I guess that he isn't shifty enough to be effective on the NFL level.

I remember Scobey being a "power" back at K state. Good speed of course, but more likely to run by you or over you instead of make you miss.

 

[pete]

IIRC, he had more yards catching the ball in that game. Including a key couple of first downs late in the game. Yes, it was not "great" but he did have a good game. Scobey has not had a carry in the regular season, I hope he gets a LOT of work Saturday.

Anderson did have a GREAT first game for a rookie. This crap about his stats makes me wonder if people on these boards even watch the games. He had almost 100 total yards and made several key plays in keeping drives alive.

Check the play by play. BTW, Anderson is mistakenly listed as Brad Bohn for some reason.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=221006029

If a rookie RB makes his first start, does not fumble, catches just about everything thrown his way, and makes several key plays that helps his team win, that is a GREAT GAME IMO!!!

 

[joeshmo]

Anderson did have a GREAT first game for a rookie. This crap about his stats makes me wonder if people on these boards even watch the games. He had almost 100 total yards and made several key plays in keeping drives alive.

Check the play by play. BTW, Anderson is mistakenly listed as Brad Bohn for some reason.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/playbyplay?gameId=221006029

If a rookie RB makes his first start, does not fumble, catches just about everything thrown his way, and makes several key plays that helps his team win, that is a GREAT GAME IMO!!!

I did watch the game. I said it then I will say it again. He stunk running the ball.

If he caught everything thrown his way(3 rec is hardly a lot) then make him a WR becuase he stunk running the ball, which is what we need him for. Thats right I said "stunk". 2.7 ave running the ball sucks.

0 TD's, 2.7 ave running the ball, a few 1st downs, and 3 catches, under 100 yards, does not a make a "great game".

He had an average game, nothing more.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

I did watch the game. I said it then I will say it again. He stunk running the ball.

If he caught everything thrown his way(3 rec is hardly a lot) then make him a WR becuase he stunk running the ball, which is what we need him for. Thats right I said "stunk". 2.7 ave running the ball sucks.

0 TD's, 2.7 ave running the ball, a few 1st downs, and 3 catches, under 100 yards, does not a make a "great game".

He had an average game, nothing more.

I remember the game vividly.... and we would have lost without him.

 

[Shane]

I remember the game vividly.... and we would have lost without him.

Thats a pretty bold statement. Many sub par RBs could have put up stats such as those. Anderson did well IMO. But he was nothing special in that game!

 

[Crazy Canuck]

"Many sub par RBs could have put up stats such as those."

THEY DIDN'T ---- He did!!!

Anderson did well IMO. But he was nothing special in that game

HE KEPT SCORING DRIVES GOING ON AT LEAST 3 OCCASIONS.

AND THE CARDS WON.

 

[Shane]

HE KEPT SCORING DRIVES GOING ON AT LEAST 3 OCCASIONS.

AND THE CARDS WON.

Ok and?

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Ok and?

What more do you need?

 

[Shane]

What more do you need?

Any basic NFL RB could have caught those balls to extend the drives. I dont see the big deal. You are acting as though he had a HOF caliber performance that day

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Any basic NFL RB could have caught those balls to extend the drives. I dont see the big deal. You are acting as though he had a HOF caliber performance that day

Well, God forbid that anything get in the way of you promoting Josh... "the second coming of Jim Brown" Scobey.

My point, is that Anderson made some key plays in a victory... that's all !. Your boy has yet to carry the ball once in a regular season game, so we can't really discuss whether he's even a "basic NFL RB".

Frankly, till proven wrong I think the loss of SHIPP is huge, but, given the relative experience of Anderson and Scobey... ANDERSON is ahead in "basic NFL RB" criteria.

He's got STATS... Scobey has NONE...

 

[Shane]

Well, God forbid that anything get in the way of you promoting Josh... "the second coming of Jim Brown" Scobey.

My point, is that Anderson made some key plays in a victory... that's all !. Your boy has yet to carry the ball once in a regular season game, so we can't really discuss whether he's even a "basic NFL RB".

Frankly, till proven wrong I think the loss of SHIPP is huge, but, given the relative experience of Anderson and Scobey... ANDERSON is ahead in "basic NFL RB" criteria.

He's got STATS... Scobey has NONE...

One games worth of stats isnt much to fall back on JMHO. We will just have to agree to disagree.

 

[joeshmo]

One games worth of stats isnt much to fall back on JMHO. We will just have to agree to disagree.

I am in complete agreement with you Shane. I guess me and you have a different definition of a "great game" compared to everyone else.

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

In some earlier interview Emmitt stated that he's never been around a deeper group of RBs during his career. After seeing the scrimmage, I beleive him. Everyone, including that Croom kid, looked competent. Croom looks like Emmitt and showed complete patience waiting for his blocks before he ran. We have a lot of change up right now. Green used different Rbs for different situations in Minn (Smith and Hoard) and will have to do that here. Plus, the speed that Scobey, Anderson, and Croom have seem to fit DG's offense.

All in all, Emmitt needs to show everyone why he deserves to be a legend in the NFL. He looks good, and if he can stay healthy he might actually turns heads for one last time in his career.

 

[Assface]

Scobey's pre draft reports match what everyone here is saying about him. He sounds like a Robert Smith type RB, although I don't know what Smith's 40 times were. I don't think I ever saw RS juke anyone, actually I'm not sure how he got his yardage, he just sorta did. I think Green may take a liking to Scobey.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2002/profiles/scobey_josh.htm

ANALYSIS

Positives: Called the best worker the program ever had by the coaching staff … Hits the holes quickly, showing an explosive bounce coming out of his stance … Finds the rush lanes instantly, displaying the cutback ability to redirect when the lanes are clogged … Hits hard between the tackles, cradling the ball securely while running at a low pad level … Shows the body lean and stiff-arm ability to punish the initial tackler … Very difficult to bring down in isolated coverage and constantly keeps his feet churning to drag the pile … Has the deep acceleration to elude in the open … Effective receiver on dump-offs … Catches with hands properly extended and has large, soft hands to haul in the high pass … Very willing blocker who will do anything asked of him to help the team … Has the power to easily face up to the opponent in pass protection … Always seems to get a piece of the pass rusher when staying back to pick up the blitz … Well-respected team leader who spends countless hours in the film room … Shows incredible balance and hip swerve changing direction … Runs with instinctiveness and authority, showing a very tough and competitive nature.

Negatives: Despite his quickness, is more of a North-South runner, as he appears to gather himself before turning the corner … Not called upon much as a pass catcher, so evaluating his route running ability was difficult … Needs to pick and slide with more fluid movements when bouncing to the outside … Has good acceleration, but does not show that second gear needed to break for long runs in the open.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

In some earlier interview Emmitt stated that he's never been around a deeper group of RBs during his career. After seeing the scrimmage, I beleive him. Everyone, including that Croom kid, looked competent. Croom looks like Emmitt and showed complete patience waiting for his blocks before he ran. We have a lot of change up right now. Green used different Rbs for different situations in Minn (Smith and Hoard) and will have to do that here. Plus, the speed that Scobey, Anderson, and Croom have seem to fit DG's offense.

All in all, Emmitt needs to show everyone why he deserves to be a legend in the NFL. He looks good, and if he can stay healthy he might actually turns heads for one last time in his career.

Putting Emmitt to the side for a moment.

Referring to your Minn. example: Who is our "Smith" our "Hoard"?

Is Anderson nifty and fast enough to be a facsimile of Smith?

Is Scobey big or tough enough to be our Hoard?

One could argue that there was a touch of Smith & Hoard in Shipp, and that's why I'm quite concerned with his loss.

 

[joeshmo]

Positives: Called the best worker the program ever had by the coaching staff

When we got him last year I saw this analysis of him and didnt have to go any further then the 1st sentance to know I would like this kid. This is coming from one of the better coaching staffs and one of the better programs who have been in the game for years and they call him the hardest worker they have ever had. Coaches just dont throw that kind of stuff around.

Will he be good. I dont know yet, but I know for sure he will work his ass off to get there.

 

[Assface]

When we got him last year I saw this analysis of him and didnt have to go any further then the 1st sentance to know I would like this kid. This is coming from one of the better coaching staffs and one of the better programs who have been in the game for years and they call him the hardest worker they have ever had. Coaches just dont throw that kind of stuff around.

Will he be good. I dont know yet, but I know for sure he will work his ass off to get there.

Yeah, that jumped out at me too. I like what he brings and with the D spread out by the 3 wide formation he won't have to be quite as shifty as he would in a standard offense, his slashing style should be fine. In DGs offense it's basically just find a hole and run as fast as you can.

 

[joeshmo]

Yeah, that jumped out at me too. I like what he brings and with the D spread out by the 3 wide formation he won't have to be quite as shifty as he would in a standard offense, his slashing style should be fine. In DGs offense it's basically just find a hole and run as fast as you can.

Which is what Robert Smith did.

 

[Stout]

Crazy Canuck, you are NOT crazy...trust me. Everyone pimping the bad stats Anderson had in that game either didn't watch it or have suddenly developed selective memories because they're too busy pimping Scobey at the same time. I saw the game too...I saw an unproven kid go out there and have a damn fine game, regardless of the stats. Barry Sanders could have been running behind that pathetic line that day, and may not have done much better. That's how bad it was. To hold him accountable for that is asinine. He kept drives alive, he helped his team win, and he held up under enormous pressure.

Now, does that make him a superstar? No! Does that mean he had a great game, an earth-shaking game, or even a stellar game? No! It means he had a damn fine game for a young RB thrown, LITERALLY, into the fire. It showed me he has a pretty good skill set for a youngster, and that he has the potential to be good. POTENTIAL.

Of course, everyone against him can now conveniantly forget all the positives and remind us how awful he was in that game. I almost puked when I read a few of the less choice posts on this thread. He kept 3 scoring drives alive and people are pretending it didn't matter, saying 'so what?'? Ugh!

 

[Stout]

sorry stout but you get a little overexcited when people dont agree with you.

i always watch the RBs very closely in camp. its my favorite position. 3 camps ago myself and a guy who hasent posted in awhile(tyrestud) were jaw dropped at how much better this kid marcell shipp looked compared to pittman and jones. he looked as though he was in another league and it was obvious. i mentioned it on the board in camp reports. people told me i was crazy. by the end of the year he a muti-million dollar extension over 800 yards rushing and a total of 9 tds in limited action. im not patting myself on the back. im just trying to show you why i am high on scobey. it has nothing to with greens comments.

it has to do with watching him through about 20 practices. he is just visibly stronger,faster, and better built to be a starting caliber RB in the NFL strictly IMO! he has great leverage and burst. he was well on his way to making the team ahead of Anderson two years ago but he broke his hand. anderson took advantage and never looked back. i commend him but he just doesnt have as much upside or talent as Scobey IMO!

Okay, that's all fine and dandy. Now, how many UDFAs out there have wowed people, fans, even some scouts, in training camps, in PRACTICES (we're not even talking preseason games for Scobey, mind), and turned into...burger flippers...park rangers...concession stand workers? A helluva lot more than made it big in the NFL, I'd wager.

I'm not saying you didn't pick Shipp out...I believe you. I've had many other good calls in my sports predictions. I just can't believe you, at least yet, on Scobey. He's shown nothing. None of the camp reports have him lighting it up. We've heard nothing about him in months, in fact. Now, all of a sudden, he's going to be a star. Eh? 2 and 2 aren't coming to 4 in this equation.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

Okay, that's all fine and dandy. Now, how many UDFAs out there have wowed people, fans, even some scouts, in training camps, in PRACTICES (we're not even talking preseason games for Scobey, mind), and turned into...burger flippers...park rangers...concession stand workers? A helluva lot more than made it big in the NFL, I'd wager.

I'm not saying you didn't pick Shipp out...I believe you. I've had many other good calls in my sports predictions. I just can't believe you, at least yet, on Scobey. He's shown nothing. None of the camp reports have him lighting it up. We've heard nothing about him in months, in fact. Now, all of a sudden, he's going to be a star. Eh? 2 and 2 aren't coming to 4 in this equation.

Could everybody take it down a notch about the #2 depth spot until after a couple of preseason games? Let's see Scobey and Anderson get some carries before we anoint one of them as the back to the HOFer.

 

[CARDINALIS]

Anderson's style seems to be more suited to succeed behind a shaky line. His running style is smooth with an effortless change of gear and direction when needed. Scoby is more of a north and south runner who runs at full speed ala Michael Pittman and needs the Oline to break holes open for him.

 

[jstadvl]

After

watching fri. and sat. I'd be very suprised if D.A. keeps that tag.

 

[Redsz]

So Anderson was looking bad?

 

[jstadvl]

Not bad

the other 2 just looked criser, ready to make something happen. Just imo.