American Made .... Tom Cruise as Barry Seal.

[Southpaw]

Just saw the 1st promo on NFL Network game tonight. No way in hell this movie can even touch the life and times of Barry Seal.

For the real Barry Seal try and find " Barry and the Boys" written by Daniel Hopsicker.

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This book was pulled right after the publishing (circa 2001). It is now a collector's item. About a $100.00 for the paperback. I was fortunate to meet Dan Hopsicker and communicated with him for years. Dude knows his shiite.

 

[MrYeahBut]

I saw the preview and thought no way is this as good as Narcos.

 

[Rivercard]

No way in hell this movie can even touch the life and times of Barry Seal.

And casting Cruise ruined it for me. I'll pass.

 

[Chaplin]

And casting Cruise ruined it for me. I'll pass.

Why?

 

[Southpaw]

If the movie is based on Barry and the Boys this will be a helluva movie, but I have my doubts it will follow Dan Hopsickers' novel closely.


https://www.fandango.com/movie-news/interview-director-doug-liman-says-tom-cruise-did-all-his-own-flying-in-american-made-752629

 

[Covert Rain]

Why?

Cruise gets a lot of crap (some deservedly so) but he is still a great actor with the right part. He is a 3 time Oscar nominee for Pete's sake and I think he was robbed at least twice. At the very least he should have received it for Born on the 4th of July.

 

[Rivercard]

Why?

I'm just over him. Nowadays I feel like I'm just watching Tom Cruise, not the character he is supposed to be. I did like 4th Of July and Magnolia though.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I'm just over him. Nowadays I feel like I'm just watching Tom Cruise, not the character he is supposed to be. I did like 4th Of July and Magnolia though.

That seems to be the take on this by some of the critics already, too.

"Who cares about the true story? Let's just make it a rollicking good time 'Tom Cruise' movie !!"

Pretty sure we'll wait for Netflix or Prime on this one. No need to see it in the theater.

I have heard that the Dennis Hopper portrayal in Doublecrossed (HBO Films 1991) is worth a watch.

Here it is on Youtube:

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[Dback Jon]

I'm just over him. Nowadays I feel like I'm just watching Tom Cruise, not the character he is supposed to be. I did like 4th Of July and Magnolia though.

I agree. Too pretty boy for many of the roles he plays now.

 

[Southpaw]

That seems to be the take on this by some of the critics already, too.

"Who cares about the true story? Let's just make it a rollicking good time 'Tom Cruise' movie !!"

Yup. That is the feeling I get.

Get the book if you can. Barry and the Boys.

a .pdf download

http://thisebook.org/download/barry-and-the-boys.html

Barry Seal's life and times would be a mini series on par with Breaking Bad.

 

[Southpaw]

I'm just over him. Nowadays I feel like I'm just watching Tom Cruise, not the character he is supposed to be. I did like 4th Of July and Magnolia though.

Decaprio, McConaughey, Afleck coulda played the part

 

[Southpaw]

I'm just over him. Nowadays I feel like I'm just watching Tom Cruise, not the character he is supposed to be. I did like 4th Of July and Magnolia though.

Decaprio, McConaughey, Afleck coulda played the part

 

[Dback Jon]

Decaprio, McConaughey, Afleck coulda played the part

McConaughey looks like a smuggler...

 

[Chaplin]

Decaprio, McConaughey, Afleck coulda played the part

And...? Cruise is as good an actor as any of those guys and maybe better than at least Affleck.

Dback Jon complaining about pretty boy Cruise, yet that fits all 3 of these guys.

 

[Cheesebeef]

it's Cruise and Liman helming. I'm in... even though I have hesitations. it won't be a gritty retelling of what actually happened, but I'm guessing it will still be a lot of fun... that bombs at the box office.

Still think Edge Of Tomorrow (which Liman directed also) was criminally underrated. That was as good/entertaining/funny a big-budget action flick as has been made in a while.

 

[Dback Jon]

And...? Cruise is as good an actor as any of those guys and maybe better than at least Affleck.

Dback Jon complaining about pretty boy Cruise, yet that fits all 3 of these guys.

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Yeah, real pretty

 

[Dback Jon]

This is Tom Cruise trying to be gritty/unglamorous

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[Dback Jon]

Tom Cruise trying to be a gritty scum-bag drug dealer

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Yeah, not really feeling it.

 

[Brian in Mesa]

I agree. Too pretty boy for many of the roles he plays now.

I've read a couple articles where this is brought up as well. Barry was not a pretty boy. He weighed 280 pounds and his Cartel bosses nicknamed him 'El Gordo' or 'the fat man.' Doesn't make one picture Cruise at all. Not without his fat suit from Tropic Thunder.

 

[Southpaw]

What bothers me is that what was a series of events that involved Papa Bush, Pablo Escobar, , the cartel , JFK assasination, RFK assasination, Iran Contra, etc, etc is most likely to be treated like a Mission Impossible sequel for Tom Cruises franchise.

Spoiler

Will Tom Cruise as Barry Seal get ambushed and assassinated in the final scene as Barry Seal was or will there be a sequel?

 

[Chaplin]

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Yeah, real pretty

You pick the one movie he didn't glam himself up in? Give me a break.

 

[Chaplin]

This is Tom Cruise trying to be gritty/unglamorous

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No it's not.

 

[Chaplin]

it's Cruise and Liman helming. I'm in... even though I have hesitations. it won't be a gritty retelling of what actually happened, but I'm guessing it will still be a lot of fun... that bombs at the box office.

Still think Edge Of Tomorrow (which Liman directed also) was criminally underrated. That was as good/entertaining/funny a big-budget action flick as has been made in a while.

100% this.

 

[Phrazbit]

My dad was an airline pilot and early in his career when he was making beans he was approached multiple times to fly "private" planes in and out of central America for exhobidant amounts of money. He declined but a buddy of his from the Air Force signed up. One day the guy is landing at a small strip in California and the feds come out from all angles.

He got busted, goes to the clink, keeps his mouth shut... and got murdered in the joint anyway... probably by the cartel who didn't wanna risk anything.

 

[Dback Jon]

You pick the one movie he didn't glam himself up in? Give me a break.

That was the point