49ers QB odds of success

Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by Zeem_Freeze, Mar 26, 2021.

Will 49ers QB end up 10 year starter

  1. 75-100% chance

    4 vote(s)
    6.8%
  2. 50-75% chance

    14 vote(s)
    23.7%
  3. 25-50% chance

    26 vote(s)
    44.1%
  4. 0-25% chance

    15 vote(s)
    25.4%
  1. Chopper0080

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    That doesn't even factor in what his offense does for RBs. I don't know how many NFL coaches I would take over him.
     
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    He gets to Houston as the youngest OC in the NFL and turns Matt Schaub into a 3000 yard passer and then a 4000 yard passer in the two years he is there.

    Goes to Washington...makes Rex Grossman into a viable NFL QB and then coaches RGIII to the only two good season he has ever had in the NFL.

    Goes to Cleveland and gets fired because he won't start Johnny Manziel.

    Goes to Atlanta and the team goes from 6-10 to 8-8 to 11-5 and losing in the Super Bowl. Matt Ryan has the best season of his career. Falcons have had one winning season in the four since he left.

    Since going to San Francisco, the one year Jimmy G played all 16 games they went to the Super Bowl.
     
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    Jets would be fools not to take him
     
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    Couldn’t agree more.
     
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    i’m not really buying what you’re selling considering the long-term success of those quarterbacks after being with him.... On top of the fact that they have Jimmy Garoppolo and are still trading up to get away from him.... Shouldnt his coaching have fixed whatever issues they see with him that they feel the need to move on? It’s not like he’s old.... A good coach yes. A bona fide QB whisperer?? Meh
     
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    Agreed - if he is magic with QB's, why does Immy G on shaky ground? Why then isn't Rosen the starter?

    And even if he is a QB whisperer, if the QB that you are whispering too isn't that good, or doesn't listen, it doesn't matter.
     
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    I think a QB whisperer doesn’t necessarily build a great QB - they still have to work with the materials they’re given. Even the greatest sculptor can’t build a skyscraper outta 10lbs of clay. Rather what a QB whisperer does is coax the maximum payload from the talent that exists with each QB. Difficult to argue shanahan isn’t exactly that given what chopper has laid out.
     
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    If he has sculpted so well why did they diminish upon leaving? People don’t just forget what they’re taught.... Again if he’s so good at it why the urgency to move on from Garoppolo? Who league wide many have considered a top flight talent including the 9ers who just paid him a 100+ million dollar contract? He hasent really groomed a young talent for long term success... that’s hard to argue regardless of Choppers findings.
     
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    Jimmy G has been just fine, when healthy. He has won a lot more than lost when starting for the 49ers. Unfortunately, he's not been able to stay on the field.
     
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    Actually Shane the fact they diminish upon his departure only further bolsters his the argument of shanahan being a qb whisperer. If they’re only good when he’s there, and we see that happen again and again it’s pretty obvious he’s the difference.

    also, a QB coach, OC, head coach does more than just work with a QBs mechanics. They work with their mindset, with the preparation, they figure out their QBs strengths and weaknesses and play to them accordingly, they also help the QB to make in-game adjustments or see things differently. If you don’t believe shanahan made a difference with those guys in all those things, why were they meh before he arrived, peaked with him there, and returned to meh after his departure?

    also, players do forget mechanics all the time. In all sports. It’s why it’s not uncommon to see a golfer go back to a prior swing coach, because their swing gets out of whack without them even realizing that. You don’t think the same occurs with quarterbacks? It absolutely does.
     
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    I don't like this kind of session but this throw is amazing
     
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    Man I would have thought they could stay at 12 and still get jones. Bold move "cotton".
     
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    While I agree with this, outside of RGIII, all of these guys were veterans. RGIII just had freak ability.
     
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    That easily could be a pick throw in the NFL with pressure.
     

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