2019 O-line discussion

Discussion in 'Arizona Cardinals' started by Ronin, May 21, 2019.

  1. Chris_Sanders

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    I also think Cole is the back up
     
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    Man... this is vintage Dave McGinnis posting here. :rolleyes:
     
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    Lamont Gaillard already taking the starting center position? Nice!
     
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    LOL true.
     
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    Then the blocking schemes are going to be very limited. Linemen need to be able to do various things based not only on the play called and the type of blocking required for it's success but also on what the defense presents and where possible blitzes would be coming from. If a linemen is limited to what he does well then it limits what blocking assignments he can handle.
     
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    Stout I gave my cards a victory...

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    Jesus, this is bleak.
     
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    I think 30 is fair. I don't believe that they are better than that when considering talent and health. If Cole develops, they can be better. If Humphries stays healthy, they can be better. Pugh...the same. Gilbert...the same. Kyler being mobile could make them better. Hell, if Kugler can be a better coach, they can be better.

    BUT, you can't ignore all of these "ifs". They are a terrible unit until they show me they are something different.
     
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    Lots of ifs dont often workout in the NFL, but when they do, things seem to come together for teams.

    This is the road to the Cardinals being good this year, the OL becomes a competent one.
     
  12. RugbyMuffin

    RugbyMuffin Uh,huhuhuhuhuh

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    It feels like this topic has been ongoing since I started posting on ASFN over 10 years ago.

    At this point....goodness only knows what a good/great/successful offensive line looks like.

    One year a line will look good, next year it could be in shambles.

    The current situation for the Cardinals is summed up with one word: Injuries

    Yes, it can be said for all teams, but history dictates the Cardinals, at least it seems, have a higher than normal risk.

    Relative to the Cardinals, I do like the idea that the top 8 linemen are

    Humphries
    Pugh
    Shipley
    Sweezy
    Gilbert
    Harrison
    Garcia
    Cole

    Yes. Of course, I would prefer 8 All-pros, but for what it is, I see this group as an improvement from last year.

    I think the smart move with Garcia is to put him on the PUP list for the 1st, ?6 weeks?.

    I would allow for the Cardinals to stash two younger players on the final 53, and see what the situation when the PUP time is up.


    Sent from my mystical communication warp drive device thingy
     
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    Are we just to the point now where Cole is backup tier only?

    Meaning outside of Christian Kirk, last year's draft was essentially pointless and we shouldn't have bothered?
     
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    Crimson Warrior Dangerous Murray Zealot

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    Feeling a little less optimistic about 2019 after reading the last couple of pages. However, we weren't going to win it all this year in any event.

    On offense, the most important goals this year have to be:

    1. K2 implementing and refining his scheme.
    2. Keeping Murray and DJ healthy.
    3. Coaching up the rookie WRs.
    4. Determining if any of the current o-line have long-term potential.

    Then in 2020, after upgrading the o-line, we come out guns blazing, and take the division back from the Rams.
     
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    Other than excessive injuries, I believe the greatest component to a great OL is coaching. It remains to be seen if it comes to fruition, but Kugler impresses me. He may be the single biggest O-Line improvement from last year. KM will also make this O-Line look better.
     
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