For Those Losing Their Minds Over the Love Pick...

[Denny Green Fan]

Defense feels like more re-shuffling of chairs on the Titanic deck.

From Bilal Nichols to Ray Lopez
From Dalvin Tomlinso to Andrew Billings
From Jalen Thompson to Andrew Wingard
From Akeem Davis-Gaither to Jack Gibbens

Minus CC, the defense feels exactly the same with just a few different names.

Good times!!

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

from the team that had Christian McCaffrey. hopefully Love is the second coming of CMC

This makes total sense. We’ll be just like the CMC Panthers - one player (Love) surrounded by scrubs losing every year before trading him to a competent franchise for fifty cents on the dollar where he’ll elevate his game. Thats probably why Lynch was smirking.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

This makes total sense. We’ll be just like the CMC Panthers - one player (Love) surrounded by scrubs losing every year before trading him to a competent franchise for fifty cents on the dollar where he’ll elevate his game. Thats probably why Lynch was smirking.

because trey mcbride and michael wilson are scrubs

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Defense feels like more re-shuffling of chairs on the Titanic deck.

From Bilal Nichols to Ray Lopez
From Dalvin Tomlinso to Andrew Billings
From Jalen Thompson to Andrew Wingard
From Akeem Davis-Gaither to Jack Gibbens

Minus CC, the defense feels exactly the same with just a few different names.

Defense is a disaster and no QB. Thats why the Love pick makes no sense. Dude could be Walter Payton on day 1 and wouldn’t matter.

 

[Harry]

this argument I can buy.

The even better argument I can buy is why are we looking at yet ANOTHER offseason where the front office decided we can really only try and upgrade ONE side of the ball (offense - Allgieer, the OG from Pitt, Love)... and not even go all in on that side?! I mean, they literally did NOTHING in FA on a defense that was ATROCIOUS last year.

I can’t imagine at that point they had any intention of taking Love

 

[Cheesebeef]

Defense is a disaster and no QB. Thats why the Love pick makes no sense. Dude could be Walter Payton on day 1 and wouldn’t matter.

I'll be honest, I think where I'm at is as long as Monti is calling the shots, this team is completely and utterly hopeless, so until that time passes, I need SOME reason to watch this team and if we have one of those special RBs, it's a reason why... a bare minimum reason, but I literally had no reason prior to yesterday.

and yes, I'm aware that he is probably going to take a beating and find very few holes to run behind and that will get old fast too, but at least I have the first four or five games of the season to delude myself into could watch something special with him as some kind of rooting interest. I literally didn't know why I'd be watching next season prior.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I can’t imagine at that point they had any intention of taking Love

you can't imagine in FA they had any intention of taking Love? That they just did this on a whim?

 

[GatorAZ]

I can’t imagine at that point they had any intention of taking Love

Bailey or Mauigoa seemed like Monty picks but neither were options for different reasons. We weren’t taking another hybrid LB or safety. I think this was a simple choice actually but the position is polarizing.

 

[kerouac9]

it's crazy to think that as bad as last year's D was, this year's D will likely be WORSE, after three years of a "rebuild" a ton of draft capital thrown at it and still, currently sitting on a mountain of cash/cap space.

I’d guess Monti’s thought process was/is that Mack Wilson Sr was such an important piece that losing him essentially torpedoed any chance of this defense building from a #15 ranking in 2024.

If you still believe in the guys you drafted, you expect Beej to do something this season and Walter Nolen to be healthy and your best DL player. Jordan Burch could at least be a rotational, replacement-level piece after over 500 snaps his rookie season.

You probably need a safety today, but you have a glut of corners you believe can play and also Elijah Jones. You probably want a five-technique DL to hedge the risk that LJ Collier does the thing he always does.

Maybe the 18th best defense and the 15th best offense doesn’t get you fired? It probably doesn’t get you the QB that will get you extended either.

 

[ajcardfan]

this argument I can buy.

The even better argument I can buy is why are we looking at yet ANOTHER offseason where the front office decided we can really only try and upgrade ONE side of the ball (offense - Allgieer, the OG from Pitt, Love)... and not even go all in on that side?! I mean, they literally did NOTHING in FA on a defense that was ATROCIOUS last year.

Are you calling Roy "effing" Lopez NOTHING!?

 

[Stout]

Those who ignore history ……….

Like how you're ignoring history because you love Simpson as a prospect?

 

[Stout]

But you have said in the past that you are broke.

That was before I started working at the VA They love social workers there.

 

[Stout]

This was a luxury pick. Doesn’t mean that Love isn’t a great prospect. Just feels like building the roof before the foundation is complete.

I’ll feel a lot better about this pick if the Cards can land Pregnon with their next pick. The oline prospects are getting thin fast.

But would you order subpar bricks instead of buying the roof material rather than wait for the quality foundation? Especially if you know you aren't building your house for a year?

Have we beat this metaphor to death yet?

 

[Stout]

this argument I can buy.

The even better argument I can buy is why are we looking at yet ANOTHER offseason where the front office decided we can really only try and upgrade ONE side of the ball (offense - Allgieer, the OG from Pitt, Love)... and not even go all in on that side?! I mean, they literally did NOTHING in FA on a defense that was ATROCIOUS last year.

But think of all the CAP SPACE we saved for NEXT YEAR!!!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Those who ignore history ……….

In the last 15 years only 2 of 10 drafted in the top 15 picks have had careers less than 7 years. Yes they have shorter careers than other positions but his prooosotion is he was going to get injured like this coming season. That’s just not statistically supported by actual facts. Only two (fournette and saquon) missed significant games in one of their first three seasons.

Going all the way back to mid 90s (because that’s still modern era football) the average lifespan of a highly drafted runningbacks with talent (so eliminating those that washed out due to lack of talent like Curtis Enis verses those cut down by injury like Kijana Carter who included) is roughly 8 seasons. That’s 20 running packs across 153 seasons in which they played substantially the entire season.

Certainly not reflective of the longevity of some other positions, but it’s not the average of like 3.5 seasons or whatever as we’ve been lead to believe the most highly touted RBs who proved to be good were fairly durable (8 seasons ain’t bad for high usage players).

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I agree help play action and passing game in general, but not picking up rushers. He’s a weapon no doubt. We’ll have to see if he can really change the offense. I’m pessimistic.

He was said to be good in pass pro

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I’d guess Monti’s thought process was/is that Mack Wilson Sr was such an important piece that losing him essentially torpedoed any chance of this defense building from a #15 ranking in 2024.

If you still believe in the guys you drafted, you expect Beej to do something this season and Walter Nolen to be healthy and your best DL player. Jordan Burch could at least be a rotational, replacement-level piece after over 500 snaps his rookie season.

You probably need a safety today, but you have a glut of corners you believe can play and also Elijah Jones. You probably want a five-technique DL to hedge the risk that LJ Collier does the thing he always does.

Maybe the 18th best defense and the 15th best offense doesn’t get you fired? It probably doesn’t get you the QB that will get you extended either.

You typed Elijah jones. Lol.

 

[SunsTzu]

No thanks on the tweener.

I could have been sold on him if we had overhauled the defensive staff. I liked the idea of Bailey as well, but the more I thought about it the less I liked investing a premium pick on that side of the ball when I don't think the staff will be here next year.

This pick really felt like a no win situation if sticking to offense. Either overdraft a position of need or take the most talented guy with lower positional value. After the season I was very much in the camp of OL no matter what based on how bad it looked last year, but over the past couple of weeks I really warmed to the idea of taking the best player in Love.

Last years o-line was a dumpster fire, but it really didn't seem less talented than the year prior when it seemed o-line performed admirably. So if we can get more out of them with changing to LaFleur's system or strike gold on a day 2-3 RT it will make taking Love feel a lot better.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

But think of all the CAP SPACE we saved for NEXT YEAR!!!

A picture of your jersey would be apropos

 

[Harry]

you can't imagine in FA they had any intention of taking Love? That they just did this on a whim?

I think they came to is as they saw no trade they liked, though they’d never admit that. I just don’t think you spend that much on an RB if you’re drafting one.

 

[Harry]

Like how you're ignoring history because you love Simpson as a prospect?

Very fair

 

[Harry]

He was said to be good in pass pro

He is, more impacts.

 

[Cheesebeef]

I think they came to is as they saw no trade they liked, though they’d never admit that. I just don’t think you spend that much on an RB if you’re drafting one.

Eh… could be. It is a lot to wrap up in the position. Especially while continuing to sit on a massive amount of cap space.

 

[Harry]

Eh… could be. It is a lot to wrap up in the position. Especially while continuing to sit on a massive amount of cap space.

They have space, but no QB and a ton of expiring contracts next at the end of 2026. Most are spots that can be improved, but that costs money.

 

[Cheesebeef]

They have space, but no QB and a ton of expiring contracts next at the end of 2026. Most are spots that can be improved, but that costs money.

don't take what I said as any kind of defense of the plan. this FO is beyond out to lunch, AFAIC.