Rumor of the day (April 9)

[Harry]

I’m hearing from significantly more sources that the Jets are becoming even more unsure about Reese. Voices in their decision making groups are rising that Bailey is the smarter choice. The Jets top focus is on elevating their pass rush. While Reese certainly has that potential, Bailey exhibited that skill more consistently. The Jets are under a great deal of fan pressure to hit with this pick. There is little doubt Bailey would hit the ground running. Reese clearly is the better athlete, but needs polishing to become a superior pass rusher. They aren’t ready to fill out their card, but the choice is more uncertain than most mocks would have you believe.

 

[pemory09]

And they are the Jets, so they’ll likely determine a way to make the worst possible decision.

 

[Delmar M Lewis]

And they are the Jets, so they’ll likely determine a way to make the worst possible decision.

Nope that honor belongs to the Cards its the only thing we are Really Good at

 

[football karma]

Bailey is the better prospect

and i also think all the "character" stuff buzzing around on X is really about getting Bailey to fall a few spots

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

If the Jets go with Bailey, I think Love becomes a legit possibility at #3. With a 15-36 record, Monti doesn’t have the luxury of being Monti. He needs a game changer right out of the gate, not a kid like Reese who will take time. Also, with the injury concern with the Miami tackle, he just can’t afford another redshirt 1st round pick. For those concerned that Love will be another MHJ and be a disappointment, he is a completely different dude with that “eye of the tiger”. Love is a St. Louis kid and that means tough. Mom was a police sergeant with the St. Louis PD and Dad is former military. My son used to play summer baseball in that area where Love grew up and that is a tough, blue collar area.

 

[HerefortheCards]

Just please don’t take Reese. I am not looking forward to Simmons 2.0.

 

[Chopper0080]

Bailey is the better prospect

and i also think all the "character" stuff buzzing around on X is really about getting Bailey to fall a few spots

None of the character stuff is new or was underreported if you followed college football. I agree that it is resurfacing intentionally.

 

[Chopper0080]

If the Jets go with Bailey, I think Love becomes a legit possibility at #3. With a 15-36 record, Monti doesn’t have the luxury of being Monti. He needs a game changer right out of the gate, not a kid like Reese who will take time. Also, with the injury concern with the Miami tackle, he just can’t afford another redshirt 1st round pick. For those concerned that Love will be another MHJ and be a disappointment, he is a completely different dude with that “eye of the tiger”. Love is a St. Louis kid and that means tough. Mom was a police sergeant with the St. Louis PD and Dad is former military. My son used to play summer baseball in that area where Love grew up and that is a tough, blue collar area.

Ashton Jeanty was also a very good RB prospect who was drafted to a team last year with serious questions at QB and a mid offensive line...they are now picking #1. Didn't really change games. Let's just be real about taking a RB in these situations.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Ashton Jeanty was also a very good RB prospect who was drafted to a team last year with serious questions at QB and a mid offensive line...they are now picking #1. Didn't really change games. Let's just be real about taking a RB in these situations.

Sounds like a perfect scenario for us!

 

[Stout]

Ashton Jeanty was also a very good RB prospect who was drafted to a team last year with serious questions at QB and a mid offensive line...they are now picking #1. Didn't really change games. Let's just be real about taking a RB in these situations.

Sounds like how the Cowgirls stacked top picks and got their QB and weapons in a tight clutch of drafts. Sign me up. Unless you think we have a real shot at anything this year?

 

[Zalixar]

Ashton Jeanty was also a very good RB prospect who was drafted to a team last year with serious questions at QB and a mid offensive line...they are now picking #1. Didn't really change games. Let's just be real about taking a RB in these situations.

So we can get a top RB and a top QB going into next year? Sweet.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Sounds like how the Cowgirls stacked top picks and got their QB and weapons in a tight clutch of drafts. Sign me up. Unless you think we have a real shot at anything this year?

If you think the manning family will let bidwill so much as sniff that kids fart I got a bridge to sell ya…..

 

[Lomax to Green 84]

Ashton Jeanty was also a very good RB prospect who was drafted to a team last year with serious questions at QB and a mid offensive line...they are now picking #1. Didn't really change games. Let's just be real about taking a RB in these situations.

Oh I know that drafting Love is a real long shot. I just have a real affinity for players from St. Louis and Notre Dame. When the Rams were still in St. Louis, I went to a number of Cardinals/Rams games in St. Louis. I was always so impressed by the number of people who still loved the old St. Louis Football Cardinals. The St. Louis Football Cardinals were my team. Growing up in central Illinois during the Super Bowl Shuffle Bears era, I was a lone wolf as a Cardinals fan. It would just be really cool for me if we drafted Love. Probably not the best team building approach, but would really make me happy.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Oh I know that drafting Love is a real long shot. I just have a real affinity for players from St. Louis and Notre Dame. When the Rams were still in St. Louis, I went to a number of Cardinals/Rams games in St. Louis. I was always so impressed by the number of people who still loved the old St. Louis Football Cardinals. The St. Louis Football Cardinals were my team. Growing up in central Illinois during the Super Bowl Shuffle Bears era, I was a lone wolf as a Cardinals fan. It would just be really cool for me if we drafted Love. Probably not the best team building approach, but would really make me happy.

I was thinking this morning….i feel Dallas is gonna end up giving us 12 and 20 anyway…. That excites me much more than a runner at 3….i get he is a good player but with a crap o line does it really matter? The falcons and raiders got stud runners too …and nothing…meh….too many teams win it all with meh running backs. The eagles won with Barkley but they had the best o line in football…and plus we thought Marvin was gonna be great too…I begged them to take alt…sigh…

 

[GimmedaBall]

Ashton Jeanty was also a very good RB prospect who was drafted to a team last year with serious questions at QB and a mid offensive line...they are now picking #1. Didn't really change games. Let's just be real about taking a RB in these situations.

And?

I don’t think anyone advocating for RB Love or any of the other top prospects believes we are getting some magical transformation with one player. Yet, that does happen on rare occasions, here's why it may happen with Love:

Bad teams have to add to their roster in steps anticipating at some point it is going to come together and move the needle. That’s why roster construction for a bad team is called a rebuild. Teams that have accumulated talent start looking for that missing piece that moves them into the next level. When that happens, you get a ‘surprise’ team going from a terrible record to being in the playoffs in a single year. (Consider the addition of Sam Darnold to Seattle last year.)

The mystery for the Cards is how to evaluate our roster going into 2026. Are we a bad team still fumbling around in FA and the draft to rebuild the roster? Or, are we a team with a lot of core pieces in place and need the chemistry of adding a player or two that will click and push us up the ‘W’ column. The answer to that either-or question is confounded by the depressing number of injuries the Cards experienced last season. Recall we went from 4 wins to 8 wins and all involved looked at the Cards to take that next step in 2025 and make the playoffs. Instead, all hopes crashed in the MASH unit.

2025 needs to be known as the IR Season. It destroyed any hope for the playoffs. If all the injured players return, our roster has the talent to take the next step. That is on both sides of the ball. That’s the difference between the Raiders and Cards even with the same bad record. I think that applies even as we have a backup QB in JB as our anticipated starter.

Drop a talented RB Love into our O with the other skilled players and a competent QB and a rebuilt OL and we can take the next step. Drop a talented RB Jeanty into the Raiders with a washed Geno Smith and bad OL and the team doesn’t take the next step.

Here’s the Card’s Draft history—look at the players on our roster from the last few drafts and appreciate we are on the cusp and can make the push with one/two key players (and some luck with the injuries)

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/crd/draft.htm

 

[kerouac9]

Here’s the Card’s Draft history—look at the players on our roster from the last few drafts and appreciate we are on the cusp and can make the push with one/two key players (and some luck with the injuries)

The cusp of maybe going 8-9 again?

We have a 4.5-win O/U with the draft class baked in.

 

[Chopper0080]

Sounds like how the Cowgirls stacked top picks and got their QB and weapons in a tight clutch of drafts. Sign me up. Unless you think we have a real shot at anything this year?

The 90's Cowboys?

 

[Chopper0080]

So we can get a top RB and a top QB going into next year? Sweet.

Maybe.

 

[Chopper0080]

Oh I know that drafting Love is a real long shot. I just have a real affinity for players from St. Louis and Notre Dame. When the Rams were still in St. Louis, I went to a number of Cardinals/Rams games in St. Louis. I was always so impressed by the number of people who still loved the old St. Louis Football Cardinals. The St. Louis Football Cardinals were my team. Growing up in central Illinois during the Super Bowl Shuffle Bears era, I was a lone wolf as a Cardinals fan. It would just be really cool for me if we drafted Love. Probably not the best team building approach, but would really make me happy.

I think he will probably be a good player, but historically, top RBs impact is minimal unless other things change in the organization.

 

[Chopper0080]

And?

I don’t think anyone advocating for RB Love or any of the other top prospects believes we are getting some magical transformation with one player. Yet, that does happen on rare occasions, here's why it may happen with Love:

Bad teams have to add to their roster in steps anticipating at some point it is going to come together and move the needle. That’s why roster construction for a bad team is called a rebuild. Teams that have accumulated talent start looking for that missing piece that moves them into the next level. When that happens, you get a ‘surprise’ team going from a terrible record to being in the playoffs in a single year. (Consider the addition of Sam Darnold to Seattle last year.)

The mystery for the Cards is how to evaluate our roster going into 2026. Are we a bad team still fumbling around in FA and the draft to rebuild the roster? Or, are we a team with a lot of core pieces in place and need the chemistry of adding a player or two that will click and push us up the ‘W’ column. The answer to that either-or question is confounded by the depressing number of injuries the Cards experienced last season. Recall we went from 4 wins to 8 wins and all involved looked at the Cards to take that next step in 2025 and make the playoffs. Instead, all hopes crashed in the MASH unit.

2025 needs to be known as the IR Season. It destroyed any hope for the playoffs. If all the injured players return, our roster has the talent to take the next step. That is on both sides of the ball. That’s the difference between the Raiders and Cards even with the same bad record. I think that applies even as we have a backup QB in JB as our anticipated starter.

Drop a talented RB Love into our O with the other skilled players and a competent QB and a rebuilt OL and we can take the next step. Drop a talented RB Jeanty into the Raiders with a washed Geno Smith and bad OL and the team doesn’t take the next step.

Here’s the Card’s Draft history—look at the players on our roster from the last few drafts and appreciate we are on the cusp and can make the push with one/two key players (and some luck with the injuries)

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/crd/draft.htm

IMO, the Cardinals are more similar to the Raiders situation. Bad QB and mid OL. So, I wouldn't expect a next step to be taken. Bad teams taking RBs high hasn't worked out great historically for those teams. Bijan is on his 3rd HC heading into his 4th season. So, 3 years wasted at a position that has an already short career span.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

Ashton Jeanty was also a very good RB prospect who was drafted to a team last year with serious questions at QB and a mid offensive line...they are now picking #1. Didn't really change games. Let's just be real about taking a RB in these situations.

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[ASUCHRIS]

IMO, the Cardinals are more similar to the Raiders situation. Bad QB and mid OL. So, I wouldn't expect a next step to be taken. Bad teams taking RBs high hasn't worked out great historically for those teams. Bijan is on his 3rd HC heading into his 4th season. So, 3 years wasted at a position that has an already short career span.

You have to really believe that Love is an actual needle mover at the position - his receiving skills are intriguing.

 

[cardpa]

If the Jets go with Bailey, I think Love becomes a legit possibility at #3. With a 15-36 record, Monti doesn’t have the luxury of being Monti. He needs a game changer right out of the gate, not a kid like Reese who will take time. Also, with the injury concern with the Miami tackle, he just can’t afford another redshirt 1st round pick. For those concerned that Love will be another MHJ and be a disappointment, he is a completely different dude with that “eye of the tiger”. Love is a St. Louis kid and that means tough. Mom was a police sergeant with the St. Louis PD and Dad is former military. My son used to play summer baseball in that area where Love grew up and that is a tough, blue collar area.

The Giants record with Saquon Barkley as their RB. I think you can argue that Barkley is a game changing RB but it didn't help the Giants all that much.

• 2023: 6-11
• 2022: 9-7-1 (Playoffs)
• 2021: 4-13
• 2020: 6-10
• 2019: 4-12
• 2018: 5-11

The Falcons with Bijan Robinson as their RB. 7-10 without him (2021-2022), 7-10 with him. Another RB who can be argued is a difference maker in a game.

• 2025: 7-10
• 2024: 7-10
• 2023: 7-10
• 2022: 7-10

• 2021: 7-10

I would not be happy taking a RB at #3.

 

[GimmedaBall]

596-826-41

That’s the record for the NFL team that we are devoting our time/energy/lifetime to follow. There’s really no logic to even be on this forum—the chances of the Cards rising above their history is slim-to-none. So, how to move the needle and get back to some degree of success? At this point, even a 8-9 would make a lot of people here ‘happy.’

“If the rule you followed brought you to this, of what use is the rule?”

Taking RB Love at 3 would be outside standard logic of the modern NFL draft philosophy. Realize that following those ‘unwritten rules’ has gotten the Cards to their miserable franchise record and #3 in this draft. Do you really think that a RT (who projects to a RG if his spine holds up) or a DL/DE will be above what we can get above RB Love?

All the arguments against a RB can be applied to any other position—even ‘top’ QB prospects don’t make the next step. What RT in the history of the game ended up as league MVP or SB MVP? Even some of the current top DL/DE have not resulted in team success. If you have time, investigate the number of playoff appearances made by Miles Garrett, Watt, Crosby, Fredrickson, etc.

What has happened with other teams and their success or failure with a given position should not be the metric on how the Cards draft. We must focus on this roster, this team, the players in this draft. There are so many factors that go into how a drafted player succeeds to make it a major mistake to look at the surface and say the same applies to the Cards. Bringing up Jeanty, Barkley, etc are not relevant to our team building and roster construction.

I just want to see some excitement on Sunday. For years, I would tune into games just to see Fitz perform. I attended the Card-Cowboy game with rookie RB OJAnderson. We lost but at least we went down fighting as Anderson put up 190+ yards. I want to see RB Love cruise to a TD—that’s how easy I am to please.

 

[GimmedaBall]

The Giants record with Saquon Barkley as their RB. I think you can argue that Barkley is a game changing RB but it didn't help the Giants all that much.

• 2023: 6-11
• 2022: 9-7-1 (Playoffs)
• 2021: 4-13
• 2020: 6-10
• 2019: 4-12
• 2018: 5-11

The Falcons with Bijan Robinson as their RB. 7-10 without him (2021-2022), 7-10 with him. Another RB who can be argued is a difference maker in a game.

• 2025: 7-10
• 2024: 7-10
• 2023: 7-10
• 2022: 7-10
• 2021: 7-10

I would not be happy taking a RB at #3.

What would be your explanation for Barkley with the Eagles and CMC to the 49er's?