Official Kyler Murray career thread.... (post Cardinals/Vikes)

[QuebecCard]

not gonna have much time for that anymore when they’re trying to fix Kyler’s mechanics

Precisely the opposite of what Coach O'Connell, the QB Whisperer, said.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

Imagine do that.

We have had scrubs for coaches for so long. KOC is an actual NFL coach like what we see in our division for other teams.

I admire your unwavering support for K1 but here is the reality---- Kyler Murray never won a playoff game, or even came close. Kyler Murray also will not win a playoff game in Minnesota.

Cardinals were stuck with a non contending talent at QB that continued to REGRESS season after season. The schism was necessary for both parties.

 

[602 Native]

Yeah so year 1 - and Kirk Cousins 11th season. They win 13 games, most in Cousins career and he throws for over 4500 yards…He had only done this once prior in his tenured career.

Year 2 - Cousins tears his Achilles and they finish with a losing season.

Year 3 - Sam Darnold puts up career numbers, even better than his numbers this year in Seattle in every measurement - TDs, INTs, yards, rating.

Year 4 - the organization started JJ in essentially his rookie season and it didn’t go as planned, yet the team still had a winning record.

Don’t post things like this and burst the “KOC didn’t do anything with JJ” bubble.

 

[602 Native]

Wonder what JETS fans were saying about Sam Darnold as he bounced around before he finally got to Minny and then Seattle.

They were coping like the fans are here.

 

[QuebecCard]

They were coping like the fans are here.

Is coping a euphemism for daily character assassination?

 

[SECTION 11]

I just can’t for the life of me predict how this is going to turn out.

 

[602 Native]

I admire your unwavering support for K1 but here is the reality---- Kyler Murray never won a playoff game, or even came close. Kyler Murray also will not win a playoff game in Minnesota.

Cardinals were stuck with a non contending talent at QB that continued to REGRESS season after season. The schism was necessary for both parties.

We have gone to the playoffs I believe 6 times in 38 years with 4 different QBs.

I am way more apt to putting that lack of playoffs on the turd organization than the 4 QBs that did it.

 

[602 Native]

I just can’t for the life of me predict how this is going to turn out.

This should be most of us here but way too many are bought in to the narrative that K1 was the problem and not a good QB.

Than you have about 5 of us that feel like me.

 

[JohnnyCakes]

We have gone to the playoffs I believe 6 times in 38 years with 4 different QBs.

I am way more apt to putting that lack of playoffs on the turd organization than the 4 QBs that did it.

i think youre missing what im trying to say-- he's not good. He has shown some flashes but those years are behind him. He is REGRESSING, that is the key word. He isnt getting better and he has zero track record of sustained success to make you believe he is going to suddenly turn it around. You can blame the turd organization for that, the trainers, the lack of height, the video game thing, the whatever.


But the fact is he just isnt that good and its time to start over with a young ( preferably tall) smart QB from either this year or next year and pair him with MLF and see what they can do.

 

[602 Native]

I loved what Vince Marotta on the local morning show said the other day, before Kyler had signed in Minnesota.

Paraphrasing him he said, "These teams courting Kyler are hoping that he can do things he hasn't really done so far in seven seasons, and if he does those things, it could really work out for them."

From the same people that said it’s ok that the Cards lose this season on the first day of free agency.

They are toads and should never be taken seriously about anything ever again.

 

[Stout]

I have no issue with K1, I hope he does do well. He's fun to watch when he's playing well. It's the what the hell moments that brings himself down.

My issue with him, beyond bad play habits and inability to stay in the pocket/make reads/play within the rhythm of the offense was that he never tried everything he could to be a better QB.

 

[Stout]

People here forgot what good coaches in the NFL can do.

Arians took this crap franchise to the NFC title game.

KOC is a really good coach and so is Flores.

If he keeps playing like poo but the team around him lifts them to wins, be ready for pushback if you come here to crow. Shoe will be on the other foot.

 

[Stout]

We have gone to the playoffs I believe 6 times in 38 years with 4 different QBs.

I am way more apt to putting that lack of playoffs on the turd organization than the 4 QBs that did it.

TBF, Kyler didn't get them to the playoffs. The teams that lost that allowed the Cards to back into the playoffs got them there. Can he win a playoff-clinching game in Minny? Time will tell.

 

[CardsFan88]

Another cope post

Not really. It's a factual statement.

I really wouldn't be surprised for him to come out decently. It would be more surprising if he kept it up.

I also acknowledge that being a Cardinals fan with our history there is a small shot he does well and makes the Cardinals, and specifically Mikey look like a clown.

That said, he has to prove it wasn't a convergence of both being problems. Kyler's warts on and off the field are real, and they're now the Vikings problems.

But I get where you're coming from. Cope post, it is not.

 

[TJ]

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[kerouac9]

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Man i am sick of these poly market and Kashi posts. They don’t mean anything other than a reflection of popular sentiment, which is why they always confirm what people already suspect.

I’m more interested in sportbooks’ odds because they reflect the initial estimation of professional oddsmakers and then adjusted by (usually significant) cash flows.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Serious coping going on. This is just letting me know people are not going to do well if K1 balls out.

lol. I don’t care he’s gone. I never liked the pick. He’s the ultimate tease QB and folds in almost any big moment or game. If he does well so be it.

 

[602 Native]

TBF, Kyler didn't get them to the playoffs. The teams that lost that allowed the Cards to back into the playoffs got them there. Can he win a playoff-clinching game in Minny? Time will tell.

No he really did because the games he won he won.

I have never understood this argument from you guys about backing in.

KW did the exact fricking thing.

Spare me.

 

[TJ]

Man i am sick of these poly market and Kashi posts. They don’t mean anything other than a reflection of popular sentiment, which is why they always confirm what people already suspect.

I’m more interested in sportbooks’ odds because they reflect the initial estimation of professional oddsmakers and then adjusted by (usually significant) cash flows.

agree

 

[SoonerLou]

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[SoonerLou]

@Stout has contributed half the views to this video the last 7 years. Tough day for Randy Newman.

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[BooksOrangePlanet]

Another cope post

speaking of cope will kyler quit again if benched again

 

[Harry]

Hard to win when you’re not a student of the game.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

No he really did because the games he won he won.

I have never understood this argument from you guys about backing in.

KW did the exact fricking thing.

Spare me.

What did KW do when he "backed in"?

 

[Chopper0080]

Man i am sick of these poly market and Kashi posts. They don’t mean anything other than a reflection of popular sentiment, which is why they always confirm what people already suspect.

I’m more interested in sportbooks’ odds because they reflect the initial estimation of professional oddsmakers and then adjusted by (usually significant) cash flows.

If you believe in Kyler, the Vikings season wins total is 8.5 with the over at -105. I feel like 602 should be all over this.