OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

[Crimson Warrior]

Let's go K1! Let's shake em up baby!

 

[602 Native]

The only offenses he has been successful in are the Shanahan/McVay timing and rhythm offenses. Just like the only offense Kyler has been successful in is the spread/rpo offense.

Kyler can do things that Darnold can't do just like Darnold can do things that Kyler can't do. They are different style/skill set QBs. I don't understand the point you think you are making.

You don’t understand because you have an agenda.

K1 will be a starter in this league next season something that you can’t comprehend because you have bashed him. The point you can’t grasp is that both Darnold and K1 have played for trash organizations and terrible coaches. You will get it one of these days or you will continue to think guys like Anderson, Hall, and Brisset are good QBs.

 

[Stout]

You guys have no idea what MO and Bidwill, M. said about K1.
You also have zero clue how MLF feels about him.

All of this will play out either way but your wet dreams might turn into nightmares.

That's why I said my bet, and did not say it with a certainty. You can comprehend that, right? Right? Squinting eyes.

 

[Redsz]

Well if ScoutD and Benkhert say so...

lol at that twitter/X posting using that gif from 2020. That is a long time ago.

 

[tennis-player]

You don’t understand because you have an agenda.

K1 will be a starter in this league next season something that you can’t comprehend because you have bashed him. The point you can’t grasp is that both Darnold and K1 have played for trash organizations and terrible coaches. You will get it one of these days or you will continue to think guys like Anderson, Hall, and Brisset are good QBs.

Anderson, Hall, Brisset and Murray will in the future be forgotten or remembered as failures. The difference is that Murray was the number one pick and destroyed the salary cap.

 

[Redsz]

I think people know how to use Murray's skill set but they also know that it doesn't generate consistent success.

That and he cant or won't do the things that mitigate how opposing DCs scheme against him.

 

[SoonerLou]

We always questioned why Gannon didn’t insist on more RPO’s. Maybe ML knows exactly how to utilize Murrays skill set.
Don’t kill me here. It’s simply a thought.

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[Cheesebeef]

Cousins is going to be our QB next year. I can feel it.

Bump.

 

[unseenaz]

Well if ScoutD and Benkhert say so...

Benkhert has been guaranteeing top 3 MVP finish for Kyler for a couple years now, so this tracks.

 

[602 Native]

Anderson, Hall, Brisset and Murray will in the future be forgotten or remembered as failures. The difference is that Murray was the number one pick and destroyed the salary cap.

LOL
The fact you think those dudes are in the same class as K1 just shows how unhinged you KDs Crew are.

 

[Cardinal88]

Chopper, you’re missing the message. I personally wouldn’t go to war with Kyler by my side. But, I’m not footing his $50m uniform. Bidwill is and I find it hard to believe he will just eat the money and release Kyler. A new offensive minded coach is with upper management. They will make the decision with or without our opinions.

 

[Adrian]

"The way things have changed for the Jets this offseason...it's making me think Kyler [Murray] is going to happen. It feels like they're going to want a splash," Hughes said.

Jets Insider Expects Blockbuster Kyler Murray Trade

The New York Jets aren't in a good spot right now. They have one of the worst offenses in the league, largely because their quarterback position is a disaster.

www.si.com

 

[BritCard]

You guys have no idea what MO and Bidwill, M. said about K1.
You also have zero clue how MLF feels about him.

All of this will play out either way but your wet dreams might turn into nightmares.

Dude, half your tweets are criticising the Org for something you assumed happened without evidence and now you want to criticise others of the same for Kyler?

 

[Stout]

LOL
The fact you think those dudes are in the same class as K1 just shows how unhinged you KDs Crew are.

Unless you think failure is a class, no one thinks that. And if you're looking at failures as a class, 99 percent of all QBs ever in the league are in that class. KM sure as ish ain't a top 1 percent QB.

 

[BritCard]

Unless you think failure is a class, no one thinks that. And if you're looking at failures as a class, 99 percent of all QBs ever in the league are in that class. KM sure as ish ain't a top 1 percent QB.

Kyler is Andy Dalton. Worse in fact, Dalton went to multiple playoffs.

I'm sure there were Bengals fans rabidly defending him too.

 

[kerouac9]

Kyler is Andy Dalton. Worse in fact, Dalton went to multiple playoffs.

I'm sure there were Bengals fans rabidly defending him too.

Kyler today is Andy Dalton. He hasn’t always been. That’s part of the tragedy, tbh.

 

[Chopper0080]

Chopper, you’re missing the message. I personally wouldn’t go to war with Kyler by my side. But, I’m not footing his $50m uniform. Bidwill is and I find it hard to believe he will just eat the money and release Kyler. A new offensive minded coach is with upper management. They will make the decision with or without our opinions.

Sure, this could be true but it would be a glaring signal that this hire (like most) isn't going to work.

 

[Adrian]

Despite having two years remaining on his rookie deal, Murray signed a five-year, $230.5 million contract extension in 2022 that runs through the 2028 campaign. Releasing Murray this offseason would result in an immediate dead cap penalty of $47.5 (post-June) or $54.7 million (pre-June), per OverTheCap. Trading him is the preferred outcome if they're severing ties, with the financial savings ($34.7 million) greatly outweighing the penalty ($17.9 million).

https://thedraftnetwork.com/2026/02/03/kyler-murray-cardinals-mike-lafleur

 

[SoonerLou]

Its going to be interesting where/if Kingsbury goes as an OC. If he take the Jets or Steelers jobs would that make Kyler a better trade asset or worse. I know they have the same agent but is the relationship dead?

They might need each other. Unless Kliff just takes the Bears OC job for the experience around Ben.

 

[daves]

Its going to be interesting where/if Kingsbury goes as an OC. If he take the Jets or Steelers jobs would that make Kyler a better trade asset or worse. I know they have the same agent but is the relationship dead?

I can't imagine either one of them ever wants anything to do with the other again. Kingsbury justifiably, Murray not so much.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Its going to be interesting where/if Kingsbury goes as an OC. If he take the Jets or Steelers jobs would that make Kyler a better trade asset or worse. I know they have the same agent but is the relationship dead?

They might need each other. Unless Kliff just takes the Bears OC job for the experience around Ben.

Worse. They obviously hated each other.

 

[kerouac9]

Worse. They obviously hated each other.

Kyler got him fired

 

[SoonerLou]

I can't imagine either one of them ever wants anything to do with the other again. Kingsbury justifiably, Murray not so much.

Worse. They obviously hated each other.

I agree they didn't like it each other, but somehow their agent convinced Kyler and Kliff to sign big deals with the Cardinals in the same year.

Just curious if he'd sell Kyler on "your only option as a guaranteed starter is the Jets, but Kliff is there"

Now whether its fair to force that on Kliff would be a different conversation.

 

[BritCard]

I agree with @Chopper0080 about the QBs that Mike has worked with in the past, nothing like Kyler, but I've been watching his Jets offense and I think he'd love a genuine mobile QB.

There's lots of misdirection. Tonnes of motion, PA, fakes tosses, trick plays, naked bootleg etc. Just a tonne of stuff going on in the back field to get the defense looking the wrong way.

Not hard to see how he'd like to add a QB that can run to that.

 

[Adrian]

Hughes, appearing on Jets Final Drive, offered this:

"The way things started to happen for the Jets this offseason and the way things have changed for the Jets this offseason ... It's making me think Kyler [Murray] is going to happen. It feels like they're going to want a splash," Hughes said.

Insider Believes Jets Want Kyler Murray Trade With Cardinals

Kyler Murray's time with the Arizona Cardinals could be coming to an end, and the New York Jets just might be his next destination. Murray just completed his s

www.si.com