Next head coach?

[Chopper0080]

Im completely lost.

It's called being emotionally highjacked.

 

[PACardsFan]

Little big a reach, don't you think

Not at all. I’d have more faith in a Bidwill making this decision if it weren’t for the fact that I’ve watched this family for 7 decades & decisions like this are wrong over 90% of the time. Even if the Cardinals had half the injuries they had, I could understand them firing JG. But, not when your team breaks an NFL record for injuries in one season.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The Cards roster is superior but the Raiders have branding, elite facilities and an owner who is a richer version of Midwill. It really depends on Kubiak’s feeling on Mendoza.

Davis may be richer, but he's also more unpredictable and fires coaches on a whim, more than he changes hairstyles.

 

[azgreg]

Arguing about who's better between the Cards and Raiders is like asking what's better, testicular or colon cancer.

 

[602 Native]

Anyone thinking that this franchise is a great place for players and coaches are fooling themselves. It’s why I put so little blame on players that fail here. The place is a dumpster fire.

 

[azgreg]

Anyone thinking that this franchise is a great place for players and coaches are fooling themselves. It’s why I put so little blame on players that fail here. The place is a dumpster fire.

It hasn't been, but I'm curious to see how that's perceived after the new practice facility is built.

 

[football karma]

Let's top 5(ish) this.

Top 5 AZ players
Trey McBride
Josh Sweat
Michael Wilson
Paris Johnson
MHJ/Budda/Fro

Top 5 LV players
Maxx Crosby
Brock Bowers
Ashton Jeanty
Kolton Miller
Adam Butler/Devin White/Tre Tucker

The rest of the players don't really matter because they didn't play enough, are too young, or the differences are minuscule.

This then leaves the QB situation. One franchise as easy access to a cost controlled, rookie QB and the other has to figure out how to unload it's 45 mil QB who doesn't want to be there anymore.

Also the cap situation. LV has 81 mil in cap space. AZ has 30 mil. Both teams have avenues to open up more space.

It's not hate when people argue that the Vegas situation would be preferrable to the AZ situation. It is a legitimate argument.

about the only potential negative i have on the Raiders job vs the Cards at this point is Tom Brady

as a HC, how do you feel about Tom Brady on the headset while also having the owners ear

 

[Zalixar]

about the only potential negative i have on the Raiders job vs the Cards at this point is Tom Brady

as a HC, how do you feel about Tom Brady on the headset while also having the owners ear

If I was serious about winning, having the best QB of all time in my ear would not be a net negative. I can see the drawbacks, sure.

 

[PACardsFan]

Where I strongly disagree is how the Cardinals lost. They lost the Tennessee game because of detail mistakes from players who had been on the roster. They couldn't run the ball even when they were healthy. They set a record for penalties in a game. They were 2-5 before the break with a -1 turnover rate. So many non-competitive games. This is on coaching and the roster.

If the team looked polished and was executing the scheme but just out talented, that would be a different story. It didn't. Gannon himself said there were day 1 install issues in multiple post-game interviews. That can't happen in year 3. That can't happen over the course of the year in multiple games. That can't happen if your entire coaching principle is growing and developing players.

They lost the Tennessee game because of 2-3 FLUKE plays on each side of the ball that there’s no way in hell you can blame the coaching staff for. Only Demarcado can be blamed for his blunder. And the interception late in the game that ended up being fumbled and turned into a TN touchdown I have never seen in the 60+ years watching this cursed franchise.

Your comment about the Cardinals being non-competitive when they started 2-5 couldn’t be more incorrect. Here are the early games:
@SF L 15-16
SEA L 20-23
TN L 21-22
@IN L 27-31
GB L 23-27
@DAL W 27-17

Those were hardly non competitive games & they had a TON of injuries in all of these games. And as the injuries mounted, only then did the games get non competitive, especially since most of those lopsided losses were against great teams…..SEA, SF, LAR twice, HOU. We even lost very competitive games against JAX & TB.

True that we didn’t run the ball well early, but we also had a new OL coach & the Saints & Panthers ended up having pretty good run defenses. And we did win both those games anyways. Once we were forced to play 3rd & 4th stringers, in addition to practice squad guys, there was NO WAY to turn off the spigot of losing.

Bidwill has zero idea of what he’s doing & his father was even worse. It doesn’t take an Einstein to know when there are circumstances like 2025 when you have to show patience. And that’s why the Cardinals have never had long term success.

 

[football karma]

on one hand, I hope that this leave no stone unturned, interview many approach to finding a coach is coming from Mike desperately trying to get it right

but the two other teams whose approach is most like the Cards are the Browns and the Raiders. THATS NOT GOOD COMPANY.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Let's top 5(ish) this.

Top 5 AZ players
Trey McBride
Josh Sweat
Michael Wilson
Paris Johnson
MHJ/Budda/Fro

Top 5 LV players
Maxx Crosby
Brock Bowers
Ashton Jeanty
Kolton Miller
Adam Butler/Devin White/Tre Tucker

The rest of the players don't really matter because they didn't play enough, are too young, or the differences are minuscule.

This then leaves the QB situation. One franchise as easy access to a cost controlled, rookie QB and the other has to figure out how to unload it's 45 mil QB who doesn't want to be there anymore.

Also the cap situation. LV has 81 mil in cap space. AZ has 30 mil. Both teams have avenues to open up more space.

It's not hate when people argue that the Vegas situation would be preferrable to the AZ situation. It is a legitimate argument.

Saying the Cardinals roster situation is "clearly better" is a symptom of looking through everything in Cardinal colored glasses - can't fix anything until people are realistic about our current situation.

 

[Stout]

Say you're Gen X without actually saying you're Gen X.

100/5 *chef's kiss*

 

[PACardsFan]

Anyone thinking that this franchise is a great place for players and coaches are fooling themselves. It’s why I put so little blame on players that fail here. The place is a dumpster fire.

I really don’t know how anyone can argue with this point??? Too many Cardinal fans just don’t have a clue ugh.

 

[TRW]

Again, I must go with my difference between LV ad AZ HC decision. It's a choice between a poop sandwich and a poop sandwich with salt. You decide which is which.

I know, I know, there's only 32 of these jobs but, sometimes, it's worth waiting for the next cycle than going to a dumpster fire and failing. Especially for a young, upcoming candidate. Guys like Monken, McCarthy, etc. have nothing to lose really.

 

[Stout]

Anyone thinking that this franchise is a great place for players and coaches are fooling themselves. It’s why I put so little blame on players that fail here. The place is a dumpster fire.

You know, I have to give you a little Kyler leeway after this post.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

Again, I must go with my difference between LV ad AZ HC decision. It's a choice between a poop sandwich and a poop sandwich with salt. You decide which is which.

I know, I know, there's only 32 of these jobs but, sometimes, it's worth waiting for the next cycle than going to a dumpster fire and failing. Especially for a young, upcoming candidate. Guys like Monken, McCarthy, etc. have nothing to lose really.

Eh…Mendoza plus Jeanty and their stud tight end plus 80 mill to spend will get him in the door….if I was Kubiak I would just wait till I could get in a weaker division….both the west are tough

 

[Adrian]

"In Arizona, I'm still watching. You've got Mike LaFleur, Anthony Weaver and Raheem Morris waiting. I'm expecting an answer very soon actually," Russini said on Scoop City.

NFL Insider Hints Cardinals Head Coach Decision Is Coming 'Very Soon'

The Arizona Cardinals are just one of two open jobs remaining in the NFL. When is that expected to happen?

www.si.com

 

[slanidrac16]

Arguing about who's better between the Cards and Raiders is like asking what's better, testicular or colon cancer.

These two teams should be separated from the league and made to play each other 17 times.

 

[jf-08]

These two teams should be separated from the league and made to play each other 17 times.

Still think relegation would be amazing. Put the Cards in the Mountain West conference and we can rejoice victoriously!!

 

[azgreg]

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[some dumb guy]

Davis may be richer, but he's also more unpredictable and fires coaches on a whim, more than he changes hairstyles.

Ooooh, you had such a great argument until you used "hairstyles"
you could have used literally anything else...LOL

 

[602 Native]

Arizona deserves so much better than the Bidwillians.

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[some dumb guy]

These two teams should be separated from the league and made to play each other 17 times.

Haahaa, with both teams ending 0-0-17

 

[AZCB34]

They lost the Tennessee game because of 2-3 FLUKE plays on each side of the ball that there’s no way in hell you can blame the coaching staff for. Only Demarcado can be blamed for his blunder. And the interception late in the game that ended up being fumbled and turned into a TN touchdown I have never seen in the 60+ years watching this cursed franchise.

Your comment about the Cardinals being non-competitive when they started 2-5 couldn’t be more incorrect. Here are the early games:
@SF L 15-16
SEA L 20-23
TN L 21-22
@IN L 27-31
GB L 23-27
@DAL W 27-17

Those were hardly non competitive games & they had a TON of injuries in all of these games. And as the injuries mounted, only then did the games get non competitive, especially since most of those lopsided losses were against great teams…..SEA, SF, LAR twice, HOU. We even lost very competitive games against JAX & TB.

True that we didn’t run the ball well early, but we also had a new OL coach & the Saints & Panthers ended up having pretty good run defenses. And we did win both those games anyways. Once we were forced to play 3rd & 4th stringers, in addition to practice squad guys, there was NO WAY to turn off the spigot of losing.

Bidwill has zero idea of what he’s doing & his father was even worse. It doesn’t take an Einstein to know when there are circumstances like 2025 when you have to show patience. And that’s why the Cardinals have never had long term success.

So I’m confused. How many years have you been a fan? You certainly hide that information well

 

[602 Native]

DI got a better chance of getting a piece of Tiffany amber theisean than the cardinals do of hiring Kubiak…just offer it to lafleur and be done with it

She was a stunner on 90210.

Singular reason to tune in was because of her.

The problem is the Cardinals are the equivalent of Dixon Wilson and Lafleur is Clare Arnold.

In other words he is way out of our league.

I hate this team.