Next head coach?

[football karma]

I'm not ceding that JG was good on culture. The best that can be said for him is that his team didn't quit for the whole historically-bad season, though it did quit. What's the positive to the pew-pew culture? What culture has this team built that can now be built upon?

the team didnt have endless players only meetings and sniping at each other leaked to the press (see Miami and Philly, to an extent). As you noted, they (mostly) played hard until the end

I just think Gannon found the scheme that worked with very good personnel didnt work with mid personnel and when he realized that, it was too late.

 

[Stout]

the team didnt have endless players only meetings and sniping at each other leaked to the press (see Miami and Philly, to an extent). As you noted, they (mostly) played hard until the end

I just think Gannon found the scheme that worked with very good personnel didnt work with mid personnel and when he realized that, it was too late.

That doesn't speak to a strong culture though, necessarily. That just means it wasn't toxic. Instilling a strong culture is going into a mess like Mike Vrabel inherited in NE. The culture came first, before the squad got significantly better. JG? Eh.

 

[Chopper0080]

That doesn't speak to a strong culture though, necessarily. That just means it wasn't toxic. Instilling a strong culture is going into a mess like Mike Vrabel inherited in NE. The culture came first, before the squad got significantly better. JG? Eh.

The argument to be made is that the culture and environment was toxic in 2022, and has been improved to not-toxic over the past three seasons. Kinda like upgrading a below average player with an average one.

 

[Chopper0080]

NFL coaches, execs say Cardinals' HC opening is worst in league

The Athletic polled 10 NFL coaches and execs about the head-coaching vacancies. The Cardinals do not rank well.

cardswire.usatoday.com

Bidwill opening his yapper in the termination press conference doesn't help. Basically said he expects to make the playoffs next year or the year after in the toughest division in football. IMO, a major disconnect between Monti and Bidwill regarding the talent compared to the rest of the division. A new coach coming in is going to be the worst coach in the division with the worst QB and the worst GM in the division. It's a rough hill to climb and I think as long as you see improvement, you have top stay the course.

 

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[Stout]

The argument to be made is that the culture and environment was toxic in 2022, and has been improved to not-toxic over the past three seasons. Kinda like upgrading a below average player with an average one.

Exactly. Very succinct summation, and this is how I see it.

 

[Stout]

Bidwill opening his yapper in the termination press conference doesn't help. Basically said he expects to make the playoffs next year or the year after in the toughest division in football. IMO, a major disconnect between Monti and Bidwill regarding the talent compared to the rest of the division. A new coach coming in is going to be the worst coach in the division with the worst QB and the worst GM in the division. It's a rough hill to climb and I think as long as you see improvement, you have top stay the course.

I mean, I love the mindset that winning is paramount, but he hired the exact wrong guy to do that and has, presumably, agreed with the slow as molasses plan that contradicts the "Win Now" mentality. The press conference, methinks, was just Bidwill, M. pretending to be chasing wins fast.

 

[football karma]

Bidwill opening his yapper in the termination press conference doesn't help. Basically said he expects to make the playoffs next year or the year after in the toughest division in football. IMO, a major disconnect between Monti and Bidwill regarding the talent compared to the rest of the division. A new coach coming in is going to be the worst coach in the division with the worst QB and the worst GM in the division. It's a rough hill to climb and I think as long as you see improvement, you have top stay the course.

i agree with this

when he says stuff like this, its a desperate attempt to get fans to buy tickets and casitas for next year.

Fans are smart though -- they see the situation. Mike needs to be honest with his customers. At least then we would know that he recognizes there is a problem beyond just coach.

 

[phillycard]

Im with you - Vance would be the only HC hire that would make me totally apathetic about this team. Bidwill will have totally shown that he has no interest in bringing a winning team to the desert

Arthur Smith would be that for me.

 

[phillycard]

A lot of people seem obsessed with this idea of “culture,” and I think many of them confuse being loud and tough-talking with actually building a winning environment.
Yelling, dropping F-bombs, and trying to look hard doesn’t create a strong culture. Winning does. Leading by example does. Supporting players when they screw up — instead of embarrassing them or getting physical on the sideline — does.
You can be a tough, demanding leader without putting on some fake tough-guy act. Honestly, how many trash-talking, chest-thumping coaches have actually lifted the Lombardi Trophy? That tough garbage quickly wears thin on players, staff, and ownership, and a return to loserville follows.
At the end of the day, hire the best person for the job — not the one who sounds like the best. And ownership needs to do real homework instead of getting fooled by big talk, especially when that coach hasn’t actually achieved the ultimate goal: winning a Super Bowl.

100% this. Accountability, and WANTING to play for the team/coaches you go to war with are THE deciding factor for me. That being said, I prefer not to have a mannequin on the sidelines either.

 

[PACardsFan]

Better yet - sell the team! There are tons of people interested, and we can have a REAL NFL owner!

Agree 100%. Long term, this franchise has zero chance of winning with a Bidwill at the helm.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

The argument to be made is that the culture and environment was toxic in 2022, and has been improved to not-toxic over the past three seasons. Kinda like upgrading a below average player with an average one.

Smart strategy for Bidwill in general - avoid being a complete abomination with the goal of being "not the worst". You get to continue to be an owner without really having to try.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

As is everyone else, including teams that hire second time head coaches, who failed at their first stop. Hiring unknowns is kind of like the name of the game.

I still prefer Mike LaFleur or Klint Kubiak, but I must admit that I am intrigued with Campanile. Especially considering his contacts with potential offensive coordinators.

No way we get Kubiak… I figure he is going to coach Mendoza…. For me it’s lafleur Brady or campanile…

 

[PACardsFan]

A lot of people seem obsessed with this idea of “culture,” and I think many of them confuse being loud and tough-talking with actually building a winning environment.
Yelling, dropping F-bombs, and trying to look hard doesn’t create a strong culture. Winning does. Leading by example does. Supporting players when they screw up — instead of embarrassing them or getting physical on the sideline — does.
You can be a tough, demanding leader without putting on some fake tough-guy act. Honestly, how many trash-talking, chest-thumping coaches have actually lifted the Lombardi Trophy? That tough garbage quickly wears thin on players, staff, and ownership, and a return to loserville follows.
At the end of the day, hire the best person for the job — not the one who sounds like the best. And ownership needs to do real homework instead of getting fooled by big talk, especially when that coach hasn’t actually achieved the ultimate goal: winning a Super Bowl.

The greatest coaches are still by and large, GREAT X’s and O’s guys. Rah rah guys will consistently get abused by guys like Shanahan, McVay, Reid, etc.

 

[TheCardFan]

Minter and McDaniel both declined 2nd interviews with Browns.

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[Chopper0080]

Minter and McDaniel both declined 2nd interviews with Browns.

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Because McDaniel took a job and I expect Minter will be taking a job.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The greatest coaches are still by and large, GREAT X’s and O’s guys. Rah rah guys will consistently get abused by guys like Shanahan, McVay, Reid, etc.

I think McVay is both an x and I guy and rahrah.

 

[football karma]

anybody at Steak44 last night? just curious if we had a Mike / Monti / Campanile sighting

 

[602 Native]

Better yet - sell the team! There are tons of people interested, and we can have a REAL NFL owner!

He’ll never do it unless a the siblings say he has to. The family has way too much power owning this franchise especially with the stadium and the CFP now.

Our best shot is to petition to get a President of Football Ops and I think he might do it if he puts someone like Warner or Fitz in charge.

 

[Adrian]

Cardinals Head Coaching Search Includes Two Names to Watch: Report

As the Arizona Cardinals narrow down their head coaching decision, there are two names to watch, per NFL insider Albert Breer.

heavy.com

 

[602 Native]

anybody at Steak44 last night? just curious if we had a Mike / Monti / Campanile sighting

Now this is the type of thing the board should be used for and actually I might have an in over there.

*Goes to do some investigating.

 

[Adrian]

Is Anthony Campanile the answer for the Cardinals?

Wolf & Luke are joined by Garry Smits, The Florida Times-Union's Jacksonville Jaguars reporter, who talks about Jaguars defensive coordinator Anthony Campanile and if he's a good fit as the next head coach of the Arizona Cardinals.

arizonasports.com

 

[PACardsFan]

I think McVay is both an x and I guy and rahrah.

Can’t argue that. In my opinion, he’s the best HC in the league.

 

[JosiahLee]

As is everyone else, including teams that hire second time head coaches, who failed at their first stop. Hiring unknowns is kind of like the name of the game.

I still prefer Mike LaFleur or Klint Kubiak, but I must admit that I am intrigued with Campanile. Especially considering his contacts with potential offensive coordinators.

Are their rumored names he would bring in on the offensive side of the ball?

 

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