OT: Kyler Murray Debacle Thread

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Covert Rain

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No, obviously, other than one part of one season, and voila! They made the playoffs, barely, and got clobbered. You're the one always saying he needs perfect conditions to win and play in the playoffs. Your logic.
Since when did someones actual performance over 7 years become KDS??!?!? LOL.
 

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If deep down you really think the Cardinals can win a Super Bowl with Murray then hats off to ya but in the end thats just not possible.

Game caught up to him. Now, maybe he stays and a new coach taps into something with him but probably not.

A split would be good for the organization AND murray.

Put all the chips in and get on the horn with Vegas and work something out for the 1st overall pick
 

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13-17 is definitely the elevation this team needs to compete in the NFC West
When your franchise thinks depending on 30 year old running backs and keeping coaches that will never work as an OC ever again that is the ceiling.

Also drafting blocking TEs as a 3rd round pick.

Or my favorite losing draft picks to hire a horrible coach.

Again the franchises ceiling is about a .500 team at best no matter who the QB is.
 

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When your franchise thinks depending on 30 year old running backs and keeping coaches that will never work as an OC ever again that is the ceiling.

Also drafting blocking TEs as a 3rd round pick.

Or my favorite losing draft picks to hire a horrible coach.

Again the franchises ceiling is about a .500 team at best no matter who the QB is.

So accept mediocrity with Kyler and never doing anything to try to get over the hump. Cool
 

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This will all be a small footnote in Cards' history someday. People will be like, "Who was that one tiny QB that Cards fans used to argue about so much? You know that guy that never did anything once he went somewhere else." :D
No we won’t because he will be the 3rd best QB that the AZ Cards have had probably for the next decade sadly.
 

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I don't put much stock in this but if we could do this and swap firsts? Sign me up and twice on Sunday. Again, I seriously doubt any truth to this.

 

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Why do you keep saying this? By the time he got the big contract here, he would be somewhere in triple AAA traveling by bus. Are you truly this oblivious?
Maybe he will be like other short NFL QBs and go up to Canada to try and win a Grey Cup someday. Goals are important.
 

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Finessing a dumb owner out of $230+ million sounds like a great goal to me & anyone with sense.
He definitely did that while many fans here we screaming not to sign him to all of that money. What a waste of time and money.
 

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When your franchise thinks depending on 30 year old running backs and keeping coaches that will never work as an OC ever again that is the ceiling.

Also drafting blocking TEs as a 3rd round pick.

Or my favorite losing draft picks to hire a horrible coach.

Again the franchises ceiling is about a .500 team at best no matter who the QB is.
remember yesterday when you said gannon was safe because the cards twitter account wished him happy birthday?

good times
 
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Why do you keep saying this? By the time he got the big contract here, he would be somewhere in triple AAA traveling by bus. Are you truly this oblivious?

That is pretty unlikely since the MLB promised him he would be guaranteed to be on the 40 man roster and offered him $18.6 million up front. He would have had to be a massive bust to be in AAA with those numbers on a team with where he is 1/4 their payroll
 

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When your franchise thinks depending on 30 year old running backs and keeping coaches that will never work as an OC ever again that is the ceiling.

Also drafting blocking TEs as a 3rd round pick.

Or my favorite losing draft picks to hire a horrible coach.

Again the franchises ceiling is about a .500 team at best no matter who the QB is.
Unfortunately, this is very realistic.
If we had a qb in place like Maye or Lawrence we could hope for better.
Any rookie we draft will definitely have us pulling our hair out at times. But hey, Jayden Daniels did it.
Do we take a chance on Trey Lance or Malik Willis?
We have just scratched the service of questions.
First priority, Murray.
 
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