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This is the worst trade I have ever seen posted regarding the Suns.

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Does NY have multiple 1st and 2nd rounders, cause we dont LOL
 
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Giannis trade rumors are likely to dominate NBA news until he is traded.

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I don't think its possible to put together a reasonable trade for Giannis. We don't have picks. Book, Oso, Dunn, Brea? Maybe something like that.

I just don't see it. This team is fun and has chemistry. That kind of trade is another way to fall flat again and deplete the roster again.
 

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I don't think its possible to put together a reasonable trade for Giannis. We don't have picks. Book, Oso, Dunn, Brea? Maybe something like that.

I just don't see it. This team is fun and has chemistry. That kind of trade is another way to fall flat again and deplete the roster again.
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Giannis is out with a non-contact injury.

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Yeah, changes need to be made with the Clippers. The star strategy didn't work.

I'm not sure about the contract situation with Ty Lue, but a lot of teams would be happy to have him as their head coach.
I'm starting to believe that the "star strategy" doesn't really work anywhere, anymore. That Steph/KD team was the last time it really seems to have worked as expected.

I'm not counting Lebron/AD because their championship was under flukey circumstances and they went south immediately after.
 

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I'm starting to believe that the "star strategy" doesn't really work anywhere, anymore. That Steph/KD team was the last time it really seems to have worked as expected.

I'm not counting Lebron/AD because their championship was under flukey circumstances and they went south immediately after.
the league is trying to design it that way financially
 

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the league is trying to design it that way financially
I get that. But I mean even when teams do manage to assemble a lineup of big names in spite of that, the product on the floor never seems to be all that great (as we here know all too well).
 
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I'm starting to believe that the "star strategy" doesn't really work anywhere, anymore. That Steph/KD team was the last time it really seems to have worked as expected.

I'm not counting Lebron/AD because their championship was under flukey circumstances and they went south immediately after.

A couple of stars seem to work the best with young emerging talent.
 

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The CBA has a lot to do with the star strategy fading, as we can all attest to. It's become impossibly difficult to fill out a roster with depth with the salary restrictions.
 

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I'm starting to believe that the "star strategy" doesn't really work anywhere, anymore. That Steph/KD team was the last time it really seems to have worked as expected.

I'm not counting Lebron/AD because their championship was under flukey circumstances and they went south immediately after.
Think about the bubble. Less amount of games, so odds of both guys staying healthy was decent, even with covid. Obviously they BOTH couldn't make it work over 82 games.
 

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LOL that is the worst I've ever seen

KAT, Kuzma and someone named Pacome Dadiet for Mark Williams, Dillon Brooks, Jalen Green, Grayson Allen and at least a 2nd rounder I'd guess.
I agree. The worst I have seen.
 

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A couple of stars seem to work the best with young emerging talent.
Even then, they have to be fairly young, hungry stars that have a clear pecking order and complement on another.

I really don’t want to go that route again.
 

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I'm starting to believe that the "star strategy" doesn't really work anywhere, anymore. That Steph/KD team was the last time it really seems to have worked as expected.

I'm not counting Lebron/AD because their championship was under flukey circumstances and they went south immediately after.

I think a lot of it is AAU, kids are allowed to do whatever they want by coaches and refs. So when they meet another "star" and have some sort of control over them, they do not process those boundaries well.
 

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I'm starting to believe that the "star strategy" doesn't really work anywhere, anymore. That Steph/KD team was the last time it really seems to have worked as expected.

I'm not counting Lebron/AD because their championship was under flukey circumstances and they went south immediately after.
Even OKC is more the team concept than the star strategy. They have really good players but play within a system and they all fill roles.

That said, the GM role and coaching will be even more important in the future. The GM needs to understand how players will work together.

Also, glue guys like Dillon Brooks will be very important.
 

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Even OKC is more the team concept than the star strategy. They have really good players but play within a system and they all fill roles.

That said, the GM role and coaching will be even more important in the future. The GM needs to understand how players will work together.

Also, glue guys like Dillon Brooks will be very important.
and there are a lot of effort guys who make huge impacts on games but making the league minimum wage - it's gotta balance out a tad at some point right
 

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Even OKC is more the team concept than the star strategy. They have really good players but play within a system and they all fill roles.

That said, the GM role and coaching will be even more important in the future. The GM needs to understand how players will work together.

Also, glue guys like Dillon Brooks will be very important.

I think that's where Ott & Gregory's college background can help. Once a proven system is in place, if you can find guys willing to fight to get on the floor and have "next man up" sort of attitudes like we're seeing now then we'll stay competitive.
 

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Giannis and KD on the same team? They better get a full time camera crew set up if that happens.
 

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My prediction is Sengun + Jabari (or Eason) + picks for Giannis.
Teams are going to have to be careful about Giannis. Don't get me wrong. I love that dude. I would take him in a heartbeat but he is not a jump shooter. He depends fully on his around the basket game. We have seen what happens to guys that have no outside game when their athleticism and bodies start breaking down. We have seen it first hand here.

This feels very KDish for the number of picks it will take to make this happen so the Bucks can load up. With the 2nd apron these trades even seem more like mortgaging the future without a 3rd team involved.
 

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Clippers continue to demonstrate why they are the Clippers

Clippers have overachieved like crazy under Lue. They’ve had nothing but injury issues.

Lue is a real legit coach and isn’t gonna put up with Paul and the BS he brings. Monty let Paul walk all over him and it’s what cost us in the end.
 
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