RB Trey Benson hurt

[Russ Smith]

Hey remember that flea flicker against the Seahawks where they completely ignored the running back and went straight after Murray? The Cardinals came out in 12 personnel with Murray under center. Any other team that sounds like a run but...

The Seahawks were so convinced of a pass, the did a double corner blitz, which is really unheard of in the modern NFL. Neither corner fell for the run at all and they blew up Murray.

And the crazy thing is if you watch the replay, the guys going downfield were not only not open, they weren't even with the defenders let alone behind them. That is Seattle had that play so sniffed out that even if both CB's blitzing had fallen into a sink hole, Kyler had nobody downfield to throw to he would have either thrown to Benson or ran it

 

[Russ Smith]

Conner has the same blockers and wasn't stuffed as much. It was more of an issue for Benson.

Sure but 18 of Bensons 29 carries came against SF and Seattle, one good one great run defense.

9 of Conners 32 carries came against SF, 23 against NO and Carolina, poor run defenses. in those 3 games he averaged 3.3, 3.1 and 2.4 YPC. Conner was doing better on first down but entirely because of the number of carries he got in the first 2 games.

 

[Chopper0080]

All Trey Benson has shown is that he hasn't shown enough to be counted on as that guy. He is basically DRob at RB.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

We will acquire J. Jefferson to jump start this offense.

... and he gets 4 targets per game.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

All Trey Benson has shown is that he hasn't shown enough to be counted on as that guy. He is basically DRob at RB.

This board is getting ridiculous at this point.

 

[Chopper0080]

This board is getting ridiculous at this point.

The fact that you see some sort of difference between the two is ridiculous.

My bad...DRob has actually played 76 more snaps than Trey Benson. Both have been mid at best.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

The fact that you see some sort of difference between the two is ridiculous.

My bad...DRob has actually played 76 more snaps than Trey Benson. Both have been mid at best.

There has been a difference in performance when on the field between the two. Refusing to acknowledge that is suspect.

 

[602 Native]

All Trey Benson has shown is that he hasn't shown enough to be counted on as that guy. He is basically DRob at RB.

Come on, Benson hasn't shown much with JC in front of him but DRob missed a whole season while showing nothing at all. And DRob is a 1st round pick.

MO has been terrible so far in the 1st round.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Come on, Benson hasn't shown much with JC in front of him but DRob missed a whole season while showing nothing at all. And DRob is a 1st round pick.

MO has been terrible so far in the 1st round.

Yeah… Benson hasnt been great or even good. He HAS been decidedly mid and injury prone as well. But Robinson has been amongst the worst defenders in football at his position… and that’s only when he can even stay healthy enough to be on the field.

 

[Weenus O'Baggins]

And the crazy thing is if you watch the replay, the guys going downfield were not only not open, they weren't even with the defenders let alone behind them. That is Seattle had that play so sniffed out that even if both CB's blitzing had fallen into a sink hole, Kyler had nobody downfield to throw to he would have either thrown to Benson or ran it

Yep terrible play especially on first down

 

[602 Native]

The fact that you see some sort of difference between the two is ridiculous.

My bad...DRob has actually played 76 more snaps than Trey Benson. Both have been mid at best.

Now you break out the snaps card while not acknowledging that Benson has been behind JC while DRob has just sucked.

 

[kerouac9]

Now you break out the snaps card while not acknowledging that Benson has been behind JC while DRob has just sucked.

DRob missed almost his entire rookie season while Benson couldn’t earn playing time to rest a 29 year old RB.

 

[BooksOrangePlanet]

DRob missed almost his entire rookie season while Benson couldn’t earn playing time to rest a 29 year old RB.

you're hilarious - if he didn't earn his playing time how did he get injured while playing - did he win a contest on the radio or something? blackmail monti?

 

[Cheesebeef]

DRob missed almost his entire rookie season while Benson couldn’t earn playing time to rest a 29 year old RB.

Come on dude. We had the 5th best rushing offense in the league. You’re really gonna argue he should have been seeing more time when we had one of the best rushing attacks in the league?

Alternatively, our defensive line was ATROCIOUS and desperately needed anyone with a pulse and Robinson couldn’t do jack there.

This is you just arguing to argue.

 

[kerouac9]

Come on dude. We had the 5th best rushing offense in the league. You’re really gonna argue he should have been seeing more time when we had one of the best rushing attacks in the league?

Alternatively, our defensive line was ATROCIOUS and desperately needed anyone with a pulse and Robinson couldn’t do jack there.

This is you just arguing to argue.

I was asking at the time why the team wasn’t doing more to rest Conner in these games. Conner was 29 years old and the Cards should have been trying to preserve him for a playoff chase.

Benson did little as a reserve back, couldn’t wrest reps from Demercado, and when Conner (inevitably) got injured at the end of the year, Benson had to go on IR after like 117 total touches.

I’m not saying Benson is bad. But I’m saying there’s vanishingly little evidence he’s good, and people who assume he is because he was the second back taken in a bad RB class are serving awfully thin gruel.

 

[PACardsFan]

Who will start & get the most touches……Demercado or Carter?

 

[Cheesebeef]

I was asking at the time why the team wasn’t doing more to rest Conner in these games. Conner was 29 years old and the Cards should have been trying to preserve him for a playoff chase.

Benson did little as a reserve back, couldn’t wrest reps from Demercado, and when Conner (inevitably) got injured at the end of the year, Benson had to go on IR after like 117 total touches.

I’m not saying Benson is bad. But I’m saying there’s vanishingly little evidence he’s good, and people who assume he is because he was the second back taken in a bad RB class are serving awfully thin gruel.

Except no one is saying he’s GOOD. He’s just not almost completely worthless like Robinson has been. And you know that better than anyone, continually crapping on Monti for that pick and rightly so.

 

[kerouac9]

Except no one is saying he’s GOOD. He’s just not almost completely worthless like Robinson has been. And you know that better than anyone, continually crapping on Monti for that pick and rightly so.

Ask Russ if he thinks he’s good. The enthusiasm for such a mid prospect is mystifying.

 

[Chopper0080]

Except no one is saying he’s GOOD. He’s just not almost completely worthless like Robinson has been. And you know that better than anyone, continually crapping on Monti for that pick and rightly so.

When both levels of production are mid at best, I will take the player who plays more snaps at the more valuable position. In this case, that is DRob. I didn’t think I would be on an island in this one. Strange to me.

 

[Russ Smith]

Ask Russ if he thinks he’s good. The enthusiasm for such a mid prospect is mystifying.

I said he was my favorite RB in that draft and I was glad they picked him. Since then all I've done is point out he has put up a good YPC in limited action.

2 days ago you made a comment about how he gets 6 yards on 3rd and 9 and people think that's good. He had 29 carries this year, THREE of them were on 3rd down. THREE. calling that out is "mystifying". You were trying to claim his YPC is inflated by padding his stats on 3rd and long. So this year 3 out of 29 but surely he had a bunc of them last year right? Oh wait in 63 carries as a rookie he had FOUR carries on 3rd down. So for his career his 7 carries for 43 yards is the only reason he's got a high YPC.

Certainly not a great RB but I never said he was I said he was my favorite back in the draft and that he might be the 1B RB this year to Conner, which he was until they both got hurt.

I just watched an interview with Monti who was asked about the RB room. he said we are always on the look both within and outside the building but we're GOING TO GET BENSON BACK this year, so he's very clear it's not going to be a season ending injury. And as of now the plan is that WHEN Benson comes back, he'll be the RB1.

But you be you

 

[Cheesebeef]

When both levels of production are mid at best, I will take the player who plays more snaps at the more valuable position. In this case, that is DRob. I didn’t think I would be on an island in this one. Strange to me.

Except Rob isn’t mid at best. He’s amongst the WORST PLAYERS IN THE LEAGUE AT HIS POSITION. He was drafted higher and he is just as injury prone.

 

[602 Native]

DRob missed almost his entire rookie season while Benson couldn’t earn playing time to rest a 29 year old RB.

I think my super power is getting you guys to show your ass with posts like this.

“JC is our heart and soul”
“Benson can’t beat out a 29 year old RB”

Please pick one.

 

[602 Native]

Who will start & get the most touches……Demercado or Carter?

Carter starts and I bet shows that he should have been higher on the depth chart.

Leaving us to wonder what the coaching staff was seeing.

We will see.

 

[Harry]

I think my super power is getting you guys to show your ass with posts like this.

“JC is our heart and soul”
“Benson can’t beat out a 29 year old RB”

Please pick one.

That’s a 29 year old RB who just wrapped an outstanding 2024 season.

 

[kerouac9]

That’s a 29 year old RB who just wrapped an outstanding 2024 season.

The bar for “outstanding” here is pitifully low. 11th in yards and 15th in TDs