Walter Nolen has a Calf injury to start camp

[JohnnyCakes]

Okay Shane. Keep drinking the koolaid every year while you shine Monti's head for him.

Maybe you and Kyler can link up and play CoD together.

It all falls on the loser Bidwill family. Connected to the Chicago Mob and owned the team for almost 100 years and hasn't experienced any success.

The Nepotism runs deep. I wish my grandpa bought an nfl team $50,000

i call this a "happy hour post"

 

[QuebecCard]

if i hadn't read @ajcardfan 's post above i may have fallen for your ruze

BIM: ruse

 

[Adrian]

What will Walter Nolen III look like when he's ready?

Bickley & Marotta discuss Arizona Cardinals first-round pick Walter Nolen III and how he will work himself into the defensive system when he comes off the PUP list.

arizonasports.com

 

[Cheesebeef]

This just blows that back to back 1st rounders, who were always healthy in college, suffer substantially calf injuries that wipes out big chunks of their rookie years.

 

[oaken1]

This just blows that back to back 1st rounders, who were always healthy in college, suffer substantially calf injuries that wipes out big chunks of their rookie years.

100%
It majorly blows. As mentioned a few weeks back when this happened...I hope they are investigating the workout plans they are setting up for these young D linemen.
Back to back rookies is not a coincidence

 

[QuebecCard]

Don't mind him staying on PUP, was expected with a deep room. It's a deep room and gives them some weeks to assess Justin Jones (maybe he plays well) and move him if they think they can do without him.


In an ideal world Jones plays 100-120 snaps in rotation, gets a sack and couple of TFL's and a handful of pressures and makes some team give up a 5/6 for him.

Actually, in an ideal world, Justin contributes, and we keep him this season.

 

[Garthshort]

Read somewhere that Justin Jones will be going on IR. No idea if it's true.

 

[kerouac9]

Back to back rookies is not a coincidence

It’s literally a coincidence

 

[oaken1]

It’s literally a coincidence

Not by the generally accepted use of the word.
However, when taking the word as written...yes,...the same injury to the same position, at roughly the same point in their training...does in fact, coincide
thus, it needs to be investigated and the routine adjusted or disrupted

 

[football karma]

Not by the generally accepted use of the word.
However, when taking the word as written...yes,...the same injury to the same position, at roughly the same point in their training...does in fact, coincide
thus, it needs to be investigated and the routine adjusted or disrupted

Robinson was injured post camp in the week prior to game 1

Nolen was injured day 1 of camp (or close to it)

my explanation: Sanders was a poor steward of "The Mascot" and it has sought its vengeance. Until he fixes that..........

 

[QuebecCard]

Not by the generally accepted use of the word.
However, when taking the word as written...yes,...the same injury to the same position, at roughly the same point in their training...does in fact, coincide
thus, it needs to be investigated and the routine adjusted or disrupted

Examples of correlation without causation include the relationship between ice cream sales and drownings/shark attacks, where warmer weather causes both, or the connection between sleeping with shoes on and headaches, where a third factor, like drinking alcohol, may be the true cause of both events. These examples illustrate how two events can occur at the same time or follow the same pattern without one directly causing the other, often due to an underlying "third variable."

Thus, it's a simple coincidence that pisses you off.

 

[602 Native]

Robinson better come out the gate smoking. While Nolen's calf injury has nothing to do with Robinson it will leave a bad taste of the latter isn't great this season.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Robinson better come out the gate smoking. While Nolen's calf injury has nothing to do with Robinson it will leave a bad taste of the latter isn't great this season.

Agreed. He better at least be a solid, regular contributor.

 

[602 Native]

I suppose we could blame this on some sort of curse Monti has --

both his 1st round D linemen get hurt after not missing any college games

his d line FA signings last year: Jone and Nichols really hadnt missed games in their pro careers

and yet..........

Blaming MO for injured 1st round picks is not something I would do but it does get baked into the cake.

Some of his picks have been flat out busts and he has spent capital in areas that are less needed (TE instead of WR). Clayton Tune was never an NFL QB which makes me question if he can spot talent at that position. Given everyones rush to annex K1, be careful what you wish for.

 

[BACH]

Blaming MO for injured 1st round picks is not something I would do but it does get baked into the cake.

Some of his picks have been flat out busts and he has spent capital in areas that are less needed (TE instead of WR). Clayton Tune was never an NFL QB which makes me question if he can spot talent at that position. Given everyones rush to annex K1, be careful what you wish for.

Who??

Tune was a 5th round developmental QB that have a success rate of what... 0,01% and probably the closest to a bust.

 

[Cardiac]

Blaming MO for injured 1st round picks is not something I would do but it does get baked into the cake.

Some of his picks have been flat out busts and he has spent capital in areas that are less needed (TE instead of WR). Clayton Tune was never an NFL QB which makes me question if he can spot talent at that position. Given everyones rush to annex K1, be careful what you wish for.

Well they Packers picked Tune up and they have a pretty good success rate with assessing QB talent so maybe Monti isn't an idiot.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Who??

Tune was a 5th round developmental QB that have a success rate of what... 0,01% and probably the closest to a bust.

BJ Ojulari ring a bell?

 

[kerouac9]

Who??

Tune was a 5th round developmental QB that have a success rate of what... 0,01% and probably the closest to a bust.

What does success rate mean here? Drafting a QB on the third day to last through his rookie contract isn’t a high bar to clear.

But Beej has obviously been a bust so far. Elijah Jones has been a bust so far.

 

[BACH]

What does success rate mean here? Drafting a QB on the third day to last through his rookie contract isn’t a high bar to clear.

But Beej has obviously been a bust so far. Elijah Jones has been a bust so far.

What do you define as a bust then?

A player that had potential, shown that potential on the field, but got injured is not a bust in my book. BJ nor Jones had any injury concerns for their career longevity coming in.

 

[kerouac9]

What do you define as a bust then?

A player that had potential, shown that potential on the field, but got injured is not a bust in my book. BJ nor Jones had any injury concerns for their career longevity coming in.

I only care about what they con contribute to the franchise. Zero starts from two second-day picks is bust trajectory for me.

 

[Cardiac]

What does success rate mean here? Drafting a QB on the third day to last through his rookie contract isn’t a high bar to clear.

But Beej has obviously been a bust so far. Elijah Jones has been a bust so far.

How do you count players with injuries as busts. I define busts as players who just aren't NFL material that get drafted before rd 5.

 

[kerouac9]

How do you count players with injuries as busts. I define busts as players who just aren't NFL material that get drafted before rd 5.

Very generous definition.

Beej was drafted injured. Monti doesn’t get to write that off.

Jones couldn’t get onto the roster at the end of this season and didn’t show he belonged in this training camp. He’s probably the fifth corner on the roster after we put two vets on IR.

 

[BACH]

Very generous definition.

Beej was drafted injured. Monti doesn’t get to write that off.

Twisting facts. He was drafted with a minor injury that is very common in the NFL, which is completely unrelated to the injury that has kept him out for a year.

Saying he was drafted with an injury concern is just not true

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I only care about what they con contribute to the franchise. Zero starts from two second-day picks is bust trajectory for me.

I have to agree with this

If you can't get on the field, how are you contributing to winning games?

 

[BullheadCardFan]

Bilal Nichols can't get on the field so far he's been a bust

Same thing