2025 Dbacks Trade Deadline Discussion
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They arent trying to win games
RON_IN_OC
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********. Torey might not be, but the players are.
82CardsGrad
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Yea… certainly showing up at the plate. 1 run in the last 19 innings.
krazy2k
Hall of Famer
Against the Pie-Rats no less. With Skenes going tomorrow, could be 1 run in 29 innings.
82CardsGrad
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The trade deadline is looming large on the team… Carroll is young and has never dealt with this type of situation. He looks lost, as does Geno who I’m sure is waiting for the shoe to drop at any minute.
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Shouldn’t this be the type of situation where a players manager excels in motivating his team?
82CardsGrad
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Of course… some would say he’s done just that in getting the team and keeping them still relevant, given the onslaught of crap this team has been hit with all season long…
But if you think Alexander, English, McCarthy, McCann, Grichiuk, Barrosa and Del Castillo are players you can win with, well… we just have different standards and views of reality.
I mostly agree. Del Castillo will be fine
82CardsGrad
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Hope you’re right…
Blaming Torey this year is just nonsense and that comes from a vocal anti Torey guy.
82CardsGrad
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It’s the laziest, most out of touch with reality & absolute worst part of fandom.
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In your opinion
But even when we had a full roster, Tori’s managing leave leaves a lot to be desired in my opinion
krazy2k
Hall of Famer
No matter how good a bullpen we had, his bullpen management has almost always been questionable. Other in game manglement decisions as well, lol. There's a reason why he is well under .500 as a manager. Nice guy, but no Tony La Russa.
RON_IN_OC
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He was questionable in 2023, then makes the playoffs by 1 game. You'd think after the WS run, he'd reflect on what he could do better, but noooo...Makes even more questionable decisions in 2024 and misses playoffs by one freaking game. This year, even with injuries, they're probably even for a wildcard spot, if he makes better decisions with bullpen and roster management. I've never seen a more incompetent manager, when it comes to handling a batting lineup when he has players on hot streaks. He's an absolute cooler. Oh, you were in a mini-slump and went 3-4 yesterday? Damn, I better give you a day off, instead of letting you build on your success. Complete moronic management.
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His days off schedule is insane.
So I was 100% on this with you but Gambo has said multiple times that the scheduled days off come above Torey. So it's a Hazen thing
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JerkFace
(Formerly offset) i have a special purpose
There was an SI article a while back explaining it. I did a quick look but couldn’t find it. The medical staff supplies Torey with a schedule on how many games they think a certain player needs off during a set time. There is a little wiggle room but not much. If there ends up being a new manager he will get the same schedule. Get use to it as long as Hazen is the GM.
Edit: Found the article:
Who Manages Diamondbacks Player Load and Return-to-Play Protocols?
Injury prevention, and managing return to play from injury, is the Holy Grail for MLB organizations. No matter how strong a roster a GM puts together, or how go
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So analytics over ruling common sense. Load management means nothing if we don’t make the playoffs and our players seem to get injured quite a bit anyway.
krazy2k
Hall of Famer
If that's true, that's the same type of weird dynamic that MO Mozeliak has with Marmol in St. Louis. Marmol can't go to the bathroom without MO's permission. Might as well just put a cardboard cutout of Marmol in the dugout.
I believe Torey is the personality day to day guy and Hazen runs everything else. It's why I consider them a bit of a package deal
Seattle Mariners Reportedly 'Overwhelmed' Arizona Diamondbacks in Josh Naylor Trade
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Diamondbacks Player Shared Special Moment With Teammates After Being Traded Mid-Game
The timing of this move was a bit awkward.
Can they announce another trade already? That's the only exciting thing with this team anymore.
