Suns trade Kevin Durant to the Rockets

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I know fans wanted more, I wanted more, but there is a reason the Rockets extended Green. He is only 23. There is still untapped potential.

Regardless, the Suns gained financial flexibility, NBA players and draft picks.

Personally, I don't know if I could have taken any more isolation basketball.

I’d be surprised, players like him don’t often change their feathers. He is a player who shoots a lot and isn’t good at shooting, he’s a bad passer he doesn’t rebound and he doesn’t play defense.

I’ve posted a lot about this certain breed of player that the NBA can’t seem to come to terms with as being terrible. High volume shooters who don’t shoot well and do nothing else, over and over again their splits are horrendous. Green defines that player.
 
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It was totally the other team trying to pull a fast one. Like were are calling about getting the Brooks that is worst. LOL. They knew who we were calling about.

Hadn't they ever heard of full names, especially with two players on the roster with the same last name.
 

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I’d be surprised, players like him don’t often change their feathers. He is a player who shoots a lot and isn’t good at shooting, he’s a bad passer he doesn’t rebound and he doesn’t play defense.

I’ve posted a lot about this certain breed of player at the NBA can’t seem to come to terms with as being terrible. High volume shooters who don’t shoot well and do nothing else, over and over again their splits are horrendous. Green defines that player.
I remember when the national commentary on Book was that he would always be an empty stat player who can't win. I remember them saying he would always be a bad defender. I remember when they said he would be high volume scorer who wouldn't do much else.

I am not saying you are wrong at all but he is young enough to still have a chance to improve. Maybe I am just being an optimist because things look bleak right now but we have seen it happen.
 

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Just reiterating the obvious, as most comments upthread have said. This is a TERRIBLE trade for the Suns. Unless they can somehow unload Green for something worthwhile - or they DO trade Booker - they got almost nothing useful beyond (their own) 10th pick. Those seconds are negligible value and Brooks is a bum.

Hell, I won't even be shocked if they spend that 10th on ANOTHER shooting guard. They are just that mind numbingly stupid at this point.

This trade overall has the stink of James Jones' input to it. The Suns are an absolute trainwreck and laughing stock.
 
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I remember when the national commentary on Book was that he would always be an empty stat player who can't win. I remember them saying he would always be a bad defender. I remember when they said he would be high volume scorer who wouldn't do much else.

Booker has never been that type of player. He can play off the ball or on the ball and he’s an extremely talented passer for a shooting guard. The suns have always done better when he’s on the court, meanwhile Green posted a -8 rating on a team that won 50 games, an almost impossible accomplishment of suck.
 

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Booker has never been that type of player. He can play off the ball or on the ball and he’s an extremely talented passer for a shooting guard. The suns have always done better when he’s on the court, meanwhile Green posted a -8 rating on a team that won 50 games, an almost impossible accomplishment of suck.
The Suns were perennial losers when Book was putting up massive numbers and my point was that if you had listened to the national commentary on him, you would have thought that he would always be an empty stat guy. Just saying that it's possible. Not that it will happen.
 
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I’d be surprised, players like him don’t often change their feathers. He is a player who shoots a lot and isn’t good at shooting, he’s a bad passer he doesn’t rebound and he doesn’t play defense.

I’ve posted a lot about this certain breed of player that the NBA can’t seem to come to terms with as being terrible. High volume shooters who don’t shoot well and do nothing else, over and over again their splits are horrendous. Green defines that player.

Perhaps not so unlike Jordan Poole.

All we can do as Suns fans is hope the owner learns from his mistakes and hope they get some moves right.
 

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Perhaps not so unlike Jordan Poole.

All we can do as Suns fans is hope the owner learns from his mistakes and hope they get some moves right.

Yes, Poole and Kuzma are both in the archetype.
 

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I think some of you really undervalue Green. He's a stud. I already have him on the same level as Mikal if not better. Brooks is a tad lower on the Cam scale. Top 10 pick. I'm more pumped than I've been in months lol
 

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this is 100% on ish 100% his decision because he's 100% smarter than nba execs

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The Suns were perennial losers when Book was putting up massive numbers and my point was that if you had listened to the national commentary on him, you would have thought that he would always be an empty stat guy. Just saying that it's possible. Not that it will happen.

Well, I’m not talking about the national conversation, I’m strictly talking about their actual numbers and contribution.

Green is terrible, he was a massive anchor for the Rockets last year. He makes teams worse.
 

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Perhaps not so unlike Jordan Poole.

All we can do as Suns fans is hope the owner learns from his mistakes and hope they get some moves right.
KD was on stage doing na NBA talk, when the trade went down. They told him what it was. All he could do was laugh and say "We'll see what happens." I think KD was in disbelief that was all they traded him for. I think he thought there should be more, too.
 

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Eh that’s not all that accurate. It’s:

Bridges, Johnson, 3 firsts (we literally got back one that we traded, so that’s a nullified in both sides of the trade) and the swaps

For

Green, Brooks, 5 seconds and 2 years of KD (pretty sure someone here was just angry about how valuable two years of an OLDER KD still has - and ironically he’s someone that’s been bashing KD since we acquired him)

Still an ugly deal. I wonder if this deal was made at the time if it would’ve been considered better considering green was coming off his best season as the #2 pick in the draft and Brooks was a desired asset and bridges and cam didn’t have the value they possess today.
 
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KD was on stage doing na NBA talk, when the trade went down. They told him what it was. All he could do was laugh and say "We'll see what happens." I think KD was in disbelief that was all they traded him for. I think he thought there should be more, too.

It could well be.
 

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Well, I’m not talking about the national conversation, I’m strictly talking about their actual numbers and contribution.

Green is terrible, he was a massive anchor for the Rockets last year. He makes teams worse.
Well that national conversation was based on the tangible results on the court. Book's game has evolved over that time and he is NOT the same player that he was early in his career. Jalen is only 23 and it's his 2nd organization. I am not closing the book on a 23 year old just yet. Again, you could be correct.
 

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This trade isn't over. We now have to wait to see if we pick at ten, try and move up in the draft, flip Green or Brooks, and what they end up with when it all ends.
 

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Eh that’s not all that accurate. It’s:

Bridges, Johnson, 3 firsts (we literally got back one that we traded, so that’s a nullified in both sides of the trade) and the swaps

For

Green, Brooks, 5 seconds and 2 years of KD (pretty sure someone here was just angry about how valuable two years of an OLDER KD still has - and ironically he’s someone that’s been bashing KD since we acquired him)

Still an ugly deal. I wonder if this deal was made at the time if it would’ve been considered better considering green was coming off his best season as the #2 pick in the draft and Brooks was a desired asset and bridges and cam didn’t have the value they possess today.
This was bad timing all the way around. First in getting a billionaire owner when the league was changing (2nd apron), when in the past having an owner with Ishbia's resources would likely make you a perennial playoff team. Then the fact it in turn impacts what deals teams are wiling to make now which might have been different had the new rules never came to be.
 
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