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Oh boy was I wrong about this years roster. I thought how can anyone stop us. We have three great scorers who can create for themself and easily put up 25 ppg. Plus we started the season great. Fast forward through a whole lot of disappointment, and here we are.

Answer me this. Will we get defence, athletisicm, size, this year, or are we rolling the standard Suns style of undersized, slow and weak on the inside? Skill is fine but not when you're too slow and small, and giving the other team the advantage in shots attempted, free throw attempts, open threes... Can I get the number to the new GM and give him a call about our "recent" history?

Good offense, defense, athletes, shooters, size, or strength all come after noticeable effort on my wishlist. I want to see players play like they care and want to be here. I'd rather watch a scrappy team fight for all 30 wins they get than the see veterans go through the motions to collect their checks, even if the more established veterans bring more skill and success. I believe we're destined for the play-in at best so I'm not getting my hopes up.
 
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I'm not sure but with our limited draft options and the new cap preventing any decent signings we're destined to shop in the discount bin for many years. I'm sure we can find tall players and athletic players and even defenders but whether we can find any that can have an impact at this level, that's doubtful.

I would hope we go after younger players and try to develop them into rotation players but that will take time and patience, don't know if our front office or fans are willing to go that route.

What bothered me with James Jones as the GM, he never went after these tall athletic players even in the G-League. Sure, the odds may be slim of finding success, but the effort needs to be made.

I respected Dallas this past season because they were relentless in their pursuit of big men. Kai Jones is an example.
 
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We haven't heard a lot from Flex lately. He likes Johnnie Bryant as a candidate for the Suns head coaching position.

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What bothered me with James Jones as the GM, he never went after these tall athletic players even in the G-League. Sure, the odds may be slim of finding success, but the effort needs to be made.

I respected Dallas this past season because they were relentless in their pursuit of big men. Kai Jones is an example.

I never understood that too, instead he went after guys 6-6 or smaller, and unathletic when it was clear that there was a shift to these types of players in the nba.
 

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What bothered me with James Jones as the GM, he never went after these tall athletic players even in the G-League. Sure, the odds may be slim of finding success, but the effort needs to be made.

I respected Dallas this past season because they were relentless in their pursuit of big men. Kai Jones is an example.
I think you have to have a balance. It seems many teams have the ability to identify these types of players successfully (think Dallas and Heat). But it can be disastrous if you’re not good at it (Josh Jackson, dragan bender, Chriss).
 

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Of all the options, Fiz has to be the worst. He's been part of the disaster the last couple of years and is a certified retread.

I recall some alarming stories coming out of his brief stint in NY and time at Memphis. Rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. I'm not sure if warranted, but my impression was that he undermines authority and is a backstabber. I'll try to find some stories when I get time. He was in our front office and on the bench during a bad couple of years when two championship pedigree coaches lost the team. Fizdale would be an awful coaching hire.
 

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What bothered me with James Jones as the GM, he never went after these tall athletic players even in the G-League. Sure, the odds may be slim of finding success, but the effort needs to be made.

I respected Dallas this past season because they were relentless in their pursuit of big men. Kai Jones is an example.
It was always pretty clear to me that GM James Jones' preferred type of player was anyone who was a duplicate of player James Jones.
 
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Of all the options, Fiz has to be the worst. He's been part of the disaster the last couple of years and is a certified retread.

Which probably means that the Suns are discovering none of the other candidates really want the job and now Fizfail is their only fallback choice.

My guess is Fizdale remains in contention for the head coaching position until the decision is made out of respect for him being on the previous Suns coaching staff. I seriously doubt he will be their choice. If he is, then I worry.
 

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Bryant is on the top of my list with Quinn being 1b. I would be thrilled with either one.

Quinn is at the top of my wishlist and Bryant is at #2. I wouldn't be surprised if Bryant ends up a better HC than Quinn does in the long run though. Quinn could be a product of Miami's system but if he's not then he has a better chance of creating a lasting culture here.

I recall Quinn being in the running for other head coach spots in the past and hyped as a key guy in Miami while Bryant is a newer name getting mentioned so I think Quinn might be a little safer as he's more of a known commodity.
 

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Quinn is at the top of my wishlist and Bryant is at #2. I wouldn't be surprised if Bryant ends up a better HC than Quinn does in the long run though. Quinn could be a product of Miami's system but if he's not then he has a better chance of creating a lasting culture here.

I recall Quinn being in the running for other head coach spots in the past and hyped as a key guy in Miami while Bryant is a newer name getting mentioned so I think Quinn might be a little safer as he's more of a known commodity.
The only thing that worries me about Quinn is that he has only been an assistant for one coach. Now granted, it is probably the best coach in the league, but never less, I think a young asst can learn more through a variety of coaches (both good and bad). I still really like Quinn, but that’s why I give Bryant a very slight edge.
 

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The only thing that worries me about Quinn is that he has only been an assistant for one coach. Now granted, it is probably the best coach in the league, but never less, I think a young asst can learn more through a variety of coaches (both good and bad). I still really like Quinn, but that’s why I give Bryant a very slight edge.

Which is fair. Bryant was an assistant under Quinn Snyder and Thibs before he went to Cleveland under Atkinson. I am not sure he knows how to deal with adversity and keeping the ship pointed to it's destination since he hasn't really experienced that like Quinn has in Miami.


I would be fine with either but I have less concerns around Quinn. He's experienced a lot in Miami, finals appearances, disgruntled stars wanting out, overachieving, developing chemistry, growing young talent.
 

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We haven't heard a lot from Flex lately. He likes Johnnie Bryant as a candidate for the Suns head coaching position.

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FLEX, how about start by spelling his name correctly?
 

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What bothered me with James Jones as the GM, he never went after these tall athletic players even in the G-League. Sure, the odds may be slim of finding success, but the effort needs to be made.

I respected Dallas this past season because they were relentless in their pursuit of big men. Kai Jones is an example.
Our centers were train wrecks in the G League. Not in terms of play. In terms of having size that translates to moving up to the Suns. Why have a G League team if the players have no chance to be developed for the main squad? I am hoping year two is a better squad of bigs. At least in terms of being able to develop players for the main squad.
 

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