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This is truly the work of a troubled mind
What are you saying? Mitch's posts were just as long.
This is truly the work of a troubled mind
I was coming in here to say the same thing...
Trying to parse why you capitalized Those, Can, and Read, but not for and that.I changed the title. Do I win a medal?
Gave me something reading material and insight to your thoughts. I’m good…I changed the title. Do I win a medal?
Just to piss off my fellow Cardinals fans I guess.Trying to parse why you capitalized Those, Can, and Read, but not for and that.
That's one way to handle it I guess...Just to piss off my fellow Cardinals fans I guess.
I'm more impressed with the volume of new threads started by said poster. It's exhausting.No better way to start out a thread with a condescending overtone.
Does anybody here know the definition of a twerp?
Personnel upgrades can also include improvement from existing players.Ok, what personnel upgrades on offense? I already forgot.
You forgot MHJ did pushups and Wilson got marriedPersonnel upgrades can also include improvement from existing players.
Jonah Williams missed most of the season and never played enough to gel with his linemates.
Adams was inexperienced and poor in pass protection.
Marv misread some coverages and was too weak/passive to bring in contested passes.
I expect all three of those personnel to upgrade for the 2025 season and provide more consistent production than they did last season.
That's all the verbal yoga I have on this topic.
Tip Reiman gonna play 45% of the snaps this year JUST WATCHYou forgot MHJ did pushups and Wilson got married
Stop making up namesTip Reiman gonna play 45% of the snaps this year JUST WATCH
You forgot MHJ did pushups and Wilson got married
That's one way to handle it I guess...
You forgot MHJ did pushups and Wilson got married
Another summary!
This analysis predicts the NFC West standings for 2025, suggesting significant shifts for the division.
The prediction argues that SF will struggle due to defensive weaknesses, and history supports the claim that a team with one of the worst defenses rarely wins the division.
- San Francisco 49ers: After dominating the division in 2022 and 2023, SF regressed in 2024, finishing 6-11 with a 1-5 division record. Defensive struggles and key free-agent losses have weakened the team further. While their draft picks may improve their run defense, they are projected to be an 8-9 team at best, with a 2-4 divisional record.
- Los Angeles Rams: The Rams had narrow wins against division rivals last year but face the toughest schedule in 2025. With Matthew Stafford showing signs of decline, their offense may struggle. A 9-8 finish is the most likely outcome, with 10 wins being an overachievement.
- Seattle Seahawks: With Sam Darnold at quarterback, Seattle is unlikely to hit 10 wins. They are projected to go 3-3 in the division and finish around 9-8, with some tough non-division matchups.
- Arizona Cardinals: The Cardinals are expected to take the top spot with a 10-7 record. Their defense has improved, their depth has strengthened, and their offensive inconsistencies from last season are expected to be offset by key personnel upgrades.
I didn't write it. AI took your words and interpreted it this way.SF would be overachieving to go 9-8. Not impossible but 8 seems more likely.
I am a little biased in another way being from Chicago, I think the bears in particular are going to beat them.
SEA isn't going to go 4-2 in the division again. We have to be most worried about the Rams cuz Darnold plays horrendous vs them. A sweep could get the Rams to 10.
History supports the claim that the team with the worst defense has NEVER won the NFC west in particular.![]()
simplified:
SF: so many changes. Will they help or hurt?
SEA: even more changes than SF.
Rams: probably the favorite, but unconvincing
Cards: added big to the D. Is it enough?
is there a decoder ring i can save up for
First the 49ers…
When SF missed playoffs in 2020 they were 6-10. In 2021 they went 10-7. That year SEA and AZ swept them. The only reason they made playoffs was by sweeping the Rams who ironically beat SF in the playoffs and won the Super Bowl. SF accomplished this turnaround by adding talent to a defense that was already becoming close to top 5. So their division record was only 2-4 that year.
SF 2022. 12-4. 6-0 vs div.
Outscoring us 171-51 in all 6.
Trend begins…
SF 2023. 13-4. 5-1 vs div.
Outscoring us 190-127.
SF 2024 6-11 1-5 vs div
We outscored them 150-144.
Is 2025 a repeat of 2021?
No.
2025 SF Free Agent Losses:
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But just how bad was SF defense last season? A defense known to make up for the injuries on the offense that have happened the last few years. So that is not an excuse. SF was 1-2 in games Mccaffrey started including losing to SEA. Now their depth at RB and WR is gone with injury prone stars still there.
The Cardinals put up the same amount of pts on SF DEF in 2 gms then we did in 4 gms vs sea and lar.
Will adding rookies to key positions help?
Can it fix this?
AZ pts vs division
Vs SF: 71-51
Vs LAR: 50-23
Vs SEA: 23-44
But so and so on SF got hurt.
Yeah they are very injury prone team with a non-name secondary.
This is a team that improves their run defense with their first two draft picks. They improve their PPG allowed from 28th perhaps to 20th. But this not 2020. This is an 8-9 win team at best.
2-4 in div. (1-5 last year)
Wins:
CLE TENN
Non div Losses:
At HOU, at TB.
= 4-6.
vs CAR, vs JAX, at IND, vs CHI, vs ATL, at CLE, at NYG
= 5-2 at best. 4-3 very possible with any key injuries.
5 of these teams at least will be better this year.
P.S. So I am betting against something that has never happened in 50 years of our division…The worst defense has never won it. And SF will be worse on defense than AZ SEA and LAR again.
The Rams
Rams pts in 2024
Vs AZ: 23 (a 4 pt win)
Vs SF: 39 (a 6 pt win)
Vs Sea: 51 (a 5 pt win)
Stafford has no excuse for the 13 pts he only managed at home vs a below average AZ defense last year with an offense that didn’t have Connor. He has been declining and played horrible in that game. It will not get easier with Davante Adams who we shut down last year. Especially with Will Johnson and our pass rush.
Rams have toughest schedule in our division.
Rams losses at home:
DET HOU TB
Losses On Road:
AZ SF PHI BAL SEA
rams wins:
AZ SEA SF IND JAX CAR ATL NO TEN
= 9-8
If they beat HOU they will lose one of the gms I have as wins. 9-8 is most likely outcome. 10 would be overachieving this year.
Seahawks
I could go into detail or I could make it easy. They aren’t winning 10 with Darnold so they won’t the division.
SEA:
3-3 in division.
losses:
At WAS, vs TB
wins:
CAR NO ATL TEN IND
3-3 + 5-2 is 8-5
4 games left:
At PITT (will have qb)
Vs MIN (defensive game)
Vs HOU (50-50 game)
At JAX (trap game)
2-2 in last 4.
= 9-8 at best.
Standings:
AZ 10-7
2 teams at 9-8
8-9 team.
Huh? What are the key personnel upgrades that will offset the inconsistencies on offense?Another summary!
This analysis predicts the NFC West standings for 2025, suggesting significant shifts for the division.
The prediction argues that SF will struggle due to defensive weaknesses, and history supports the claim that a team with one of the worst defenses rarely wins the division.
- San Francisco 49ers: After dominating the division in 2022 and 2023, SF regressed in 2024, finishing 6-11 with a 1-5 division record. Defensive struggles and key free-agent losses have weakened the team further. While their draft picks may improve their run defense, they are projected to be an 8-9 team at best, with a 2-4 divisional record.
- Los Angeles Rams: The Rams had narrow wins against division rivals last year but face the toughest schedule in 2025. With Matthew Stafford showing signs of decline, their offense may struggle. A 9-8 finish is the most likely outcome, with 10 wins being an overachievement.
- Seattle Seahawks: With Sam Darnold at quarterback, Seattle is unlikely to hit 10 wins. They are projected to go 3-3 in the division and finish around 9-8, with some tough non-division matchups.
- Arizona Cardinals: The Cardinals are expected to take the top spot with a 10-7 record. Their defense has improved, their depth has strengthened, and their offensive inconsistencies from last season are expected to be offset by key personnel upgrades.
Right? Weird.Ok, what personnel upgrades on offense? I already forgot.