2025 NFC West Predicted (for Those that Can Read)

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Another summary!

This analysis predicts the NFC West standings for 2025, suggesting significant shifts for the division.
  • San Francisco 49ers: After dominating the division in 2022 and 2023, SF regressed in 2024, finishing 6-11 with a 1-5 division record. Defensive struggles and key free-agent losses have weakened the team further. While their draft picks may improve their run defense, they are projected to be an 8-9 team at best, with a 2-4 divisional record.
  • Los Angeles Rams: The Rams had narrow wins against division rivals last year but face the toughest schedule in 2025. With Matthew Stafford showing signs of decline, their offense may struggle. A 9-8 finish is the most likely outcome, with 10 wins being an overachievement.
  • Seattle Seahawks: With Sam Darnold at quarterback, Seattle is unlikely to hit 10 wins. They are projected to go 3-3 in the division and finish around 9-8, with some tough non-division matchups.
  • Arizona Cardinals: The Cardinals are expected to take the top spot with a 10-7 record. Their defense has improved, their depth has strengthened, and their offensive inconsistencies from last season are expected to be offset by key personnel upgrades.
The prediction argues that SF will struggle due to defensive weaknesses, and history supports the claim that a team with one of the worst defenses rarely wins the division.
 

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Ok, what personnel upgrades on offense? I already forgot.
Personnel upgrades can also include improvement from existing players.
Jonah Williams missed most of the season and never played enough to gel with his linemates.
Adams was inexperienced and poor in pass protection.
Marv misread some coverages and was too weak/passive to bring in contested passes.

I expect all three of those personnel to upgrade for the 2025 season and provide more consistent production than they did last season.





That's all the verbal yoga I have on this topic.
 

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Personnel upgrades can also include improvement from existing players.
Jonah Williams missed most of the season and never played enough to gel with his linemates.
Adams was inexperienced and poor in pass protection.
Marv misread some coverages and was too weak/passive to bring in contested passes.

I expect all three of those personnel to upgrade for the 2025 season and provide more consistent production than they did last season.





That's all the verbal yoga I have on this topic.
You forgot MHJ did pushups and Wilson got married
 

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You forgot MHJ did pushups and Wilson got married

Wilson is also about to have dad strength, which is not to be confused with the much stronger mom strength, but its still something
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You forgot MHJ did pushups and Wilson got married

Also Hernandez went to IR in week 5.

People are acting like we didn't deal with oline issues all last year.

Somehow James Connor still had his best year ever, rated #4th among RBs by PFF.

Murray only got sacked 30 times compared to 48 for Geno and 50 for Darnold.

Now that we have our biggest issues solved, people are trying to make our minor concerns out to be massive.

Nitpicking things that can be fixed with adjustments or at worse a trade at the deadline.
 
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Another summary!

This analysis predicts the NFC West standings for 2025, suggesting significant shifts for the division.
  • San Francisco 49ers: After dominating the division in 2022 and 2023, SF regressed in 2024, finishing 6-11 with a 1-5 division record. Defensive struggles and key free-agent losses have weakened the team further. While their draft picks may improve their run defense, they are projected to be an 8-9 team at best, with a 2-4 divisional record.
  • Los Angeles Rams: The Rams had narrow wins against division rivals last year but face the toughest schedule in 2025. With Matthew Stafford showing signs of decline, their offense may struggle. A 9-8 finish is the most likely outcome, with 10 wins being an overachievement.
  • Seattle Seahawks: With Sam Darnold at quarterback, Seattle is unlikely to hit 10 wins. They are projected to go 3-3 in the division and finish around 9-8, with some tough non-division matchups.
  • Arizona Cardinals: The Cardinals are expected to take the top spot with a 10-7 record. Their defense has improved, their depth has strengthened, and their offensive inconsistencies from last season are expected to be offset by key personnel upgrades.
The prediction argues that SF will struggle due to defensive weaknesses, and history supports the claim that a team with one of the worst defenses rarely wins the division.

SF would be overachieving to go 9-8. Not impossible but 8 seems more likely.

I am a little biased in another way being from Chicago, I think the bears in particular are going to beat them.

SEA isn't going to go 4-2 in the division again. We have to be most worried about the Rams cuz Darnold plays horrendous vs them. A sweep could get the Rams to 10.

History supports the claim that the team with the worst defense has NEVER won the NFC west in particular. :)
 

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SF would be overachieving to go 9-8. Not impossible but 8 seems more likely.

I am a little biased in another way being from Chicago, I think the bears in particular are going to beat them.

SEA isn't going to go 4-2 in the division again. We have to be most worried about the Rams cuz Darnold plays horrendous vs them. A sweep could get the Rams to 10.

History supports the claim that the team with the worst defense has NEVER won the NFC west in particular. :)
I didn't write it. AI took your words and interpreted it this way. ;)
 
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simplified:

SF: so many changes. Will they help or hurt?
SEA: even more changes than SF.
Rams: probably the favorite, but unconvincing
Cards: added big to the D. Is it enough?

SF: Unloaded defensive talent, will be worst on defense in division. No depth at offensive superstar positions prone to injury.

SEA: The entire SEA offense is a downgrade from what Darnold had in MINN.

Rams: The favorite with the toughest schedule, an aging QB and aging Davante Adams?

Cards: No depth to full depth. Defense should be above average, concealing offensive inconsistency.
 

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First the 49ers…

When SF missed playoffs in 2020 they were 6-10. In 2021 they went 10-7. That year SEA and AZ swept them. The only reason they made playoffs was by sweeping the Rams who ironically beat SF in the playoffs and won the Super Bowl. SF accomplished this turnaround by adding talent to a defense that was already becoming close to top 5. So their division record was only 2-4 that year.

SF 2022. 12-4. 6-0 vs div.

Outscoring us 171-51 in all 6.

Trend begins…

SF 2023. 13-4. 5-1 vs div.

Outscoring us 190-127.

SF 2024 6-11 1-5 vs div

We outscored them 150-144.

Is 2025 a repeat of 2021?

No.


2025 SF Free Agent Losses:

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But just how bad was SF defense last season? A defense known to make up for the injuries on the offense that have happened the last few years. So that is not an excuse. SF was 1-2 in games Mccaffrey started including losing to SEA. Now their depth at RB and WR is gone with injury prone stars still there.

The Cardinals put up the same amount of pts on SF DEF in 2 gms then we did in 4 gms vs sea and lar.

Will adding rookies to key positions help?

Can it fix this?


AZ pts vs division

Vs SF: 71-51

Vs LAR: 50-23

Vs SEA: 23-44

But so and so on SF got hurt.

Yeah they are very injury prone team with a non-name secondary.


This is a team that improves their run defense with their first two draft picks. They improve their PPG allowed from 28th perhaps to 20th. But this not 2020. This is an 8-9 win team at best.

2-4 in div. (1-5 last year)

Wins:

CLE TENN

Non div Losses:

At HOU, at TB.

= 4-6.

vs CAR, vs JAX, at IND, vs CHI, vs ATL, at CLE, at NYG

= 5-2 at best. 4-3 very possible with any key injuries.

5 of these teams at least will be better this year.

P.S. So I am betting against something that has never happened in 50 years of our division…The worst defense has never won it. And SF will be worse on defense than AZ SEA and LAR again.

The Rams

Rams pts in 2024

Vs AZ: 23 (a 4 pt win)

Vs SF: 39 (a 6 pt win)

Vs Sea: 51 (a 5 pt win)

Stafford has no excuse for the 13 pts he only managed at home vs a below average AZ defense last year with an offense that didn’t have Connor. He has been declining and played horrible in that game. It will not get easier with Davante Adams who we shut down last year. Especially with Will Johnson and our pass rush.

Rams have toughest schedule in our division.

Rams losses at home:

DET HOU TB

Losses On Road:

AZ SF PHI BAL SEA

rams wins:

AZ SEA SF IND JAX CAR ATL NO TEN

= 9-8

If they beat HOU they will lose one of the gms I have as wins. 9-8 is most likely outcome. 10 would be overachieving this year.

Seahawks

I could go into detail or I could make it easy. They aren’t winning 10 with Darnold so they won’t the division.


SEA:

3-3 in division.

losses:

At WAS, vs TB

wins:

CAR NO ATL TEN IND

3-3 + 5-2 is 8-5

4 games left:

At PITT (will have qb)

Vs MIN (defensive game)

Vs HOU (50-50 game)

At JAX (trap game)

2-2 in last 4.

= 9-8 at best.

Standings:

AZ 10-7

2 teams at 9-8

8-9 team.
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Another summary!

This analysis predicts the NFC West standings for 2025, suggesting significant shifts for the division.
  • San Francisco 49ers: After dominating the division in 2022 and 2023, SF regressed in 2024, finishing 6-11 with a 1-5 division record. Defensive struggles and key free-agent losses have weakened the team further. While their draft picks may improve their run defense, they are projected to be an 8-9 team at best, with a 2-4 divisional record.
  • Los Angeles Rams: The Rams had narrow wins against division rivals last year but face the toughest schedule in 2025. With Matthew Stafford showing signs of decline, their offense may struggle. A 9-8 finish is the most likely outcome, with 10 wins being an overachievement.
  • Seattle Seahawks: With Sam Darnold at quarterback, Seattle is unlikely to hit 10 wins. They are projected to go 3-3 in the division and finish around 9-8, with some tough non-division matchups.
  • Arizona Cardinals: The Cardinals are expected to take the top spot with a 10-7 record. Their defense has improved, their depth has strengthened, and their offensive inconsistencies from last season are expected to be offset by key personnel upgrades.
The prediction argues that SF will struggle due to defensive weaknesses, and history supports the claim that a team with one of the worst defenses rarely wins the division.
Huh? What are the key personnel upgrades that will offset the inconsistencies on offense?
 

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